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i wonder why not our own karthikeyan as atleast a test drivers as he already owns experince of f1

Its just another avenue for Kingfisher money to be blown up. I don't quite see how its something for indians to feel a bit patriotic

If Mallya is doin his bit in puttin India [whichever way he sees fit] on the world map then i am all for it

The trials and tribulations are all nice and good. They put in 150million. Which is just not enough to maintain even midfield domination which is what they failed to do in 08. Just to give an example, Raikonen gets paid in excess of 25million!!! Our Fisichella is too old to even bicycle let alone F1 racing. You will only see him continue to crash. But for that price you will not get any better. We acquired Ferrari's suspension, that might change some aspects but not much.

Karthikeyan is fine doing A1 instead of driving a dangerous piece of outdated scrap metal though he lost some major sponsors. Atleast he is racing and not doing some silly tests like the way he did for a whole year for...??? do not remember.

As far as the F1 being held in India is concerned... it is just an MOU. Which only means Ba*lls! Nothing is decided so far. And nothing is happening. Earlier it was 2009, then 2010 and now 2011 and as this year will draw to a close it will go to 2012.

But yes, at least, as a third world country, we have a F1 stable.

^^^my my my so much criticism mallya must be havin an itchy nose all the time

Karthikeyan, was a one lap wonder, he would perform well on qualifying and fizz out in the race. He never earned any respect despite the entire country rallying behind him. Besides that he is "all talk, no show" kinda guy, he talks to much for the talent he pocesses, I still cant forget Indianapolis, there were 4 drivers on track, guess who came last. damn!... I guess karun chandok is a better, not sure

Despite what people say here in this forum, Vijay Mallya is a hero.... Step into UB-City in Bangalore.... What ever he does, does it in style. There is none in the country who lives life like Mallya does... Boobs and Booze.

Force India has just completed a year. F1 is a big deal, it takes loads of experience to even earn a point, not just winning races. Even cash rich Toyota took good 2-3 years to get to points winning position, remember Force India almost got into podium in monaco had kimi not bumped into sutil. Force India are doing right things, Im sure they're are gonna win some points this season. They had a lot DNF last season, hopefully Mclaren engine should hold good this season.

All we can do is support some one like Mallya who adds glitz and colour to our country.

Someone like Ross Braun should help! Ron Dennis is retireing

Do not want to hijack this thread but a few things ought to be straight.

Karthikeyan may or may not be a one-lap wonder. But he was driving a bullshit car. We all know that. They do not have a stable anymore.

Secondly, it takes a LOT more than just "Boobs and Booze" to go and do good in F1.

But "Boobs and Booze" definitely add a LOT of glitz to this boob starved country for sure. They will not stop the DNF label.

hmm kenda cool down.

Well what i want to say here is that, some people got money and they are fulfilling their hobbies and making some money out of it as well.

So no Indianism here in having the F1 team coz mallaya has money and is spending his way...

You all remember that this is basically the same Jordan team operating out of the same Silverstone facility ?

Of course, personnel have changed, facilities have improved etc, but we are still talking about the evolution of an Independent team.


FLASHBACK : End of year 2000, Edmund "EDDIE" Jordan, sly as a fox, undercuts the BAR-Honda deal and secures a supply of "Factory" Honda engines for 2001. And with half the budget of the BAR team, the Jordan chaps did amazingly well in 2001 and 2002. And that was the end of it. Post 9/11 Jordan went into cost-saving mode, staff dwindled, facilities made redundant, and all that extra land they had around Silverstone for expansion - it was left for grazing...

Between then and now, each and every team has grown exponentially - including the only other truly independent team - williams. Williams have resources to match any of the other teams barring McLaren and Ferrari. And yet they can't get back on track.

Jordan-Spyker-MidLand-Force India F1 - it makes no difference, the team dont have the basic resources to compete with anybody else other than Toro Rosso.

Yes, VM has poured millions into expanding the team but look at Toyota - you dont win in F1 by burning billions of dollars. It takes years to build a team that can run at the front. If VM thinks running a McLarenMercedes drive train with a McLaren rear-end will suddenly put his cars in the midfield, I am afraid he might be in for a rude shock.

The basic problem for this team is that it was always a midgrid runner barring the glory days of 98,99. There has been no organic growth. There has been no stability in the engineering dept and there are no star drivers in the team now who can haul that POS up the order.

Fizzed-out-Cola is there because of his experience. He is still a great driver in the wet but in the dry - he is nothing special. Sutil - rated highly but error prone. Team lack direction IMO. They need a proper head of Engg - somebody like a Ross Brawn who can plug the holes. I think the departure of Mike Gascoyne was tragedy. He was the man with the Midas touch. If nothing he would have brought them into the midfield - upper midfield by this season.

I am afraid, I dont see FI F1 doing much better in 2009. If they do - I will galdy eat some crow

well... i dont know if karthikein is one lap wonder...... but y could'nt he win a podium when schumi could win races with the same car afterall!!!

Becoz it is not the machine but the driver that matters. Why one person outperforms another on the same machine. It is all about skills, attitude and devotion to the sport.

I dont really know what are you trying to say by the above statement, F1 or not--i dont really care, but India is surely not a 3rd world country.

Feel proud to be an Indian.

There's patriotism and then there's misplaced faith. India IS a third world country and we still have quite some distance to cover before we achiev a "developed country" status. Being proud of one's country doesn't mean that one should be oblivious to the facts.