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So as per you , English was forced upon us and you still chose to right in English, why dont you write in your language, that can be read and understood by whole of the country. You cant, and let me tell you the reason , English is a language, a way of expressing things which can be understood by one and all. If not knowing English is being looked down upon, then let me tell you , you are being judgmental about all the other people who dont even think of it in that that way.

Now coming to French rule (if that happened), yes that would have happened, same if Mughals ruled us for longer time,it would have been Urdu and same goes for Hindi and other languages. So its not the case who ruled us and who did not. Its language thats globally can be understood by most of the people.
Now we have members from other countries too, How would you help them. ask them to come back after learning "your language", Or if you have friend from different country , wait that wont happen, because for being friends you need to have common language, which you wont have.

And come out of the bubble that English has to be held responsible for anything this country goes through or in your words "dark age". And stop blaming our forefathers for "forcing" English language, if you had problem with the language why after reaching adulthood you havent gave it up? Why you still write your id with dollar sign in it, you yourself are enslaved of using the language.

And no one ever said that English is our roots, even in language part, Khadi Boli was our Harrapan and Mohen Jo daro language, then please start using it and converse with other nationals in the same.

Now why I said about throwing away your pc and mobile is because they are also invented by English speaking people and u have some opposing emotions towards people who prefer "English", so why are you still using it, you are adding more to that Dark Age then. Even I prefer face to face interaction more than these gadgets but the question is , how will you converse if there is nothing common language .

English is just a language, stop cribbing over it.

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The Constitution of india designates the official language of the Government of India as Hindi written in the Devanagari script, as well as English. There is no national language as declared by the Constitution of India.Hindi and English are used for official purposes such as parliamentary proceedings, judiciary, communications between the Central Government and a State Government. States within India have the liberty and powers to specify their own official language(s) through legislation and therefore there are 22 officially recognized languages in India.

Source - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Langua...tatus_in_India

Morale of the story? Most educated mass understand English and on a worldwide read forum such as this, it is the only way to communicate effectively.

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See thats what happens when people ass_u_me. Think and post when you say they were my forefathers. Even if they are not, noone has the right to go to my family heirarchy. Hope this clears out. And yes stop cribbing and blaming English language for everything.

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what an entertaining thread

i actually came here thinking this is another thread with jokes or some anecdotal incidents related to bikes...

can we do that instead of talking about the greatness/stupidity/slavery of the english language? its a medium of communication, no need to give it any more importance...


let me start...
a few months ago, i was in rameshwaram, and i tried getting my bike onto the beach (in hindsight a foolish decision)
the front wheel got stuck in the sand even before the rear wheel could leave the road...
it was morning 5, with nobody around for miles literally!!!
it was a scary and sweaty morning, and it took me a bloody 45 minutes to finally pull my Mia (bike) out of that sand...
never again!!!
(except, i did ride on a beach not a week after that day)

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i thought this was going to be people's funny experiences with language barriers while riding. Found out that the situation is completely opposite!

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The Language English is used most commonly in Global level due to it's being an easy language to learn, common language of communication , and had evolved over time to take in common words from other languages as it's own...

The Language had undergone tremendous change both in spelling and phonetics. The Anglo saxon, the Chaucerian English will astound some of us...even the British do not use them..and the funniest part is if you ask for proper English Pronunciation and usage , it is in India...so much for a Language developing in it's place of birth. Over time the Language had spread through countries where the English speaking people had invaded, and people who had a greater ability to learn other languages took to it with enthusiasm...

No matter which Language we prefer to learn, One Must Always Know to Read , Write and Speak one's Mother Tongue ...."Mother's Tongue" Since the Father Never Gets a Chance to Speak....

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I really couldn't comprehend what you mean by the above sentence. Could you please rephrase it?


Well said, PSR ji "No matter which Language we prefer to learn, One Must Always Know to Read , Write and Speak one's Mother Tongue", I am really indebted to my parents for taking time and teaching me my mother tongue. I, later became a self-taught scholar in the regional language and now I am on my journey to learn my Father's tongue.


English is a phonetic language and not an alphabetical language. Certain words are pronounced differently in various accents, for instance: The Australian pronunciation of the word "Today" sounds similar to "To-die", in UK the word "Morning" is pronounced like the word "Moaning", nobody would want anyone to wish them "Good moaning (morning)" which would ruin the whole day:P. In English there is only one version of the word "You" unlike in Indian languages, where we have different versions depending upon the age of the person we are addressing. In English for every male relative its Uncle and for every female its Aunt where as in Indian languages we give more importance to human relations. English has very few alphabets and is easier to learn comparing to any other Indian language. For instance, Tamil could be considered to be one the toughest languages, it has sounds which no other language has and it is also believed that it could be the mother of all Indian languages and it was the language of Indus valley civilization. One can see lot of similarities between Hindi and Tamil, still these two people always have hatred towards each other. Tamils consider themselves to be Dravidians and consider fair complexion people to be Aryan, infact nobody realizes that Aryan invasion theory itself was fabricated by Germans. If you see England in 17th century you would know how they were suffering from starvation, illiteracy, lack of medical facilities and over-population. Africa and India was the most richest countries during that time. After centuries of exploitation we can see what the condition of these countries are now. England learnt most of the technologies from her colonies and also developed her country with the resources looted from her colonies. In the same way English language developed by adopting words from various languages. People like me take up English with enthusiasm but, later when we realize how a language which is the oldest of all the languages and which was spoken by the native people Australia, Africa, Srilanka and Andaman and Nicobar Islands and now submerged Lemuria was suppressed before English was introduced, we develop a sense of hatred towards English and I feel that it is natural for any person with a sense of patriotism. Instead of spreading hatred we could try uplifting our people and free our minds from various social dogmas and save whatever Indianism and Indian culture is left instead of blindly following the West who themselves are heading towards self-destruction.


Why was all these facts not told to us? Are the leaders trying to hide something here? Do we really need leaders to lead us and tell us what is good and bad? Aren't we capable of leading ourselves?

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What I meant to say is that the irony of English Language is, it is best spoken,and used as a common language of communication in India and not in England..It had been accepted by the English themselves...In fact our BPO and IT sector business is booming not only due to our Knowledge and hard work, but mainly due to our command over the common Language English...We are good at speaking American English, and English as spoken by different people of the world...we Indians are Good at the language in any Phonetic accent..
Not knowing the local language ,for the invaders was a major problem . So they thrust an opinion that their Language was the best, and those not knowing it were fools/savages...and to make us feel low they also said that being white in skin color is Superior and dark skinned people are fit to work as slaves....Even after Independence and so many Years of learning and evolving, these stigmas/taboos created by the incompetent people still stick with us...The fact that the white Skin is Actually a Defect was suppressed , and to this day we keep buying any ,and all whitening cream, never realizing that our skin is the best under all conditions that nature can challenge, our bodies are the best, our Diet is the best etc...I can go on on many things but will become a rant than an eye opening reading which I am attempting to...

As someone who had studied the English Literature and Social History of England and their ways , I had learnt about the language evolution....Those who read about it, will know...
Luckily for us, they could not eradicate us like they did with America, when they Annihilated the Local Indians..and made it their home...

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Since English is the only language now understood by almost everyone using internet, why is there so much fuss regarding English in this thread
Why is the need for bringing in history lessons when we all here want to share our experiences

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Quoting you as I really want to know what you think. If notEnglishh, then in which language should we converse or use here or anywhere?

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Why ask me when you already have the answer? Just follow the herd of sheep like a sheep. Its only for highly awakened people and some crazy people like me who see things differently. I believe that there is a universal law which is far more superior than any man-made law, in order to see things differently you need to tap into higher levels of consciousness.

PS: Are you really curious to know or are you just trying to prove me wrong?

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I feel the posts about English Language , and it's origin can stop. A little clarification on it's usage and origin was necessary to know the language's background to understand it's global spread, but going beyond it is not warranted.So let us stop, and foray more into this common Language Versatility which had lead to it's survival.

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I am not sure if this is the right thread to post this video. I feel that every Indian should watch this video as we lack awareness about our history and about our great people of the past as a result we have become copy-cats of the west. Mods please move it to the right thread if found irrelevant here.

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Was going through this thread, and although it has been dormant for an year now, it is pretty intense.

Even then, I'll take my chances to lighten it up, and suggest everyone following the thread to check this link -

KTM DUKE 390 2017 Reviews, Price, Specifications, Mileage - MouthShut.com


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Started in 2013, this particular thread was meant to educate the members on xBhp, on how to use English effectively so that the posts here are readable & easy to understand for almost everyone on this planet.

Later,the thread changed to something else. It started talking about how English was inferior. It got a little intense with some really heavy history lessons being taught.
So, since I felt that this is a really important thread in xBhp I thought that this should be taken up again in a more broader sense.
It was started by [MENTION=39214]B7ACKTHORN[/MENTION] & the post did a lot to educate me on how to write a post. I will do my best to follow the basic rules laid out by [MENTION=39214]B7ACKTHORN[/MENTION].
One guy had a doubt, as to how people, who are not so good in english or people who are not so good at using punctuations, communicate on xBhp which has english as the language of communication. (Well,I had a similar doubt of my own) For that purpose [MENTION=21789]The[/MENTION]Monk had written a concise post which clarifies that doubt. The first page on this thread is a perfect example of how I feel xBhp should be.

We will need to keep improving as a community to deliver information to people around the world about motorcycling. There are going to be doubts & confusions on the way, which we need to make sure, is answered in a very appropriate way & move ahead together.

I request the MODS to take out the posts that are irrelevant (Including mine) & keep the ones that make a lot of sense. This thread needs to be read by everyone on xBhp. Let’s make this forum easy to read & easy to understand, as this is probably one of the best biking forums available.