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**ravi@17bhp** · 06-29-2012, 06:02 PM

Originally posted by deejaay View Post

Thanks Ravi..
So I should be looking for the sensor size rather than the type

Yes. So, a point & shoot can't match a DSLR's versatility. Sometimes, in good daylight, a P&S may match a DSLR with normal lens. But, with a quality lens on DSLR, no point and shoot comes close to it.

**yellowspunk** · 06-29-2012, 07:00 PM

Originally posted by ABikerAtHeart View Post

Checked with photovatika+flipkart+some 10 other retailers and 14.5k was the best bet. Got it for 13.7. Wonder what better could you get me?

Its very easy to use. And its had to be more of a family camera. And good looking too. So got it. :P
Besides the hx9v was an expensive affair and s9100 won against tz25 on snapsort. So got it.

Since you bought without telling me, am not telling you !

from a pro p&s to a family p&s eh?

post some pictures dude.

Originally posted by aargee View Post

Picking up SX150 in few days; horrified to see how the digital camera market has turned like a fish market

One truth is that, there's no true replacement for Canon S5IS on that price range. The only thing I'm missing in SX150 from S5IS is the Swivel LCD. I really miss that.

exact same feeling. you have to be very specific with what you want. some cameras have good zoom others have good features. so confusing !

Originally posted by antz.bin View Post

My Panasonic FZ28 which is now 3.5 years old still works as it did on day 1. It was a better buy than the Canon S10IS available back then IMO. The best bit about it was the 3 year warranty which meant 3 years of peace of mind(Though I never had to use the privileges of warranty since everything always worked). Still using stock battery and the camera still does over 450 shots on a single charge, I find that much more convenient than using AA / Rechargeable cells which were used on the Canon S5IS / S10IS. It costed me 22k back then, but then it was totally worth the money.

P.S.: It also has RAW and full manual mode and extension lenses support to extend its range 27-486mm range even more.

I bought the panasonic based on such good reviews.

it still comes with 3yrs warranty !

Originally posted by deejaay View Post

Guy can anyone explain which sensor is better for a P&S camera..lot of DSLR's have CMOS sensor, does that mean that P&S with CMOS is a better option?
I am in a process of buying a new camera, liked the Sony DSC-HX10V, is there any alternative to it, I found it to be little over my budget..

The question doesnt make sense. I think a good CMOS sensor is better than a bad CCD sensor and vica versa. Pick a set of cams in your budget, and see which one suits you best.

what would be your budget for your cam?

Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post

Yes. So, a point & shoot can't match a DSLR's versatility. Sometimes, in good daylight, a P&S may match a DSLR with normal lens. But, with a quality lens on DSLR, no point and shoot comes close to it.

DSLRs have versatility thanks to the inter changeable lens. Quality wise within the lens range of a P&S, it would be hard to find much of a difference between highend P&S and a DSLR.

**deejaay** · 06-29-2012, 07:32 PM

Originally posted by yellowspunk View Post

The question doesnt make sense. I think a good CMOS sensor is better than a bad CCD sensor and vica versa. Pick a set of cams in your budget, and see which one suits you best.

what would be your budget for your cam?

Well I am a noob in camera business..
My budget is of around 12000 bucks
Also saw the reviews of Canon Powershot A3400 IS, seems like a nice buy

**ravi@17bhp** · 06-29-2012, 08:05 PM

Originally posted by yellowspunk View Post

DSLRs have versatility thanks to the inter changeable lens. Quality wise within the lens range of a P&S, it would be hard to find much of a difference between highend P&S and a DSLR.

At pixel level, any high-end P&S can't match a DSLR. Pics from a DSLR are always sliky smooth, noise-free, more detailed, and with great control over depth of field due to the bigger sensor. I have been using high-end P&S for the past 5 years. I am sure I can produce a better quality image with a DSLR.

**yellowspunk** · 06-29-2012, 09:25 PM

Originally posted by deejaay View Post

Well I am a noob in camera business..
My budget is of around 12000 bucks
Also saw the reviews of Canon Powershot A3400 IS, seems like a nice buy

i dont see any good reviews of A3400. Anyway you need manual settings? the A34 doesnt have any.

Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post

At pixel level, any high-end P&S can't match a DSLR. Pics from a DSLR are always sliky smooth, noise-free, more detailed, and with great control over depth of field due to the bigger sensor. I have been using high-end P&S for the past 5 years. I am sure I can produce a better quality image with a DSLR.

I dont think even serious photographers do pixel peeping. You do realise that DSLRs are more complex cameras than p&s? Besides the sensor and lens there is way more gadgetry involved, that is why i said compared within the limits of a P&S.. Anyway, pl show me a DSLR which doesnt make noise?!

lesser noise at higher ISOs.. yes, noise free.. no. Detail/DoF is due to bigger sensor and lens. Like i said within the limits of a P&S, there isnt much of a difference.

**ravi@17bhp** · 06-29-2012, 09:45 PM

Originally posted by yellowspunk View Post

I dont think even serious photographers do pixel peeping. Anyway, pl show me a DSLR which doesnt make noise?!

lesser noise at higher ISOs.. yes, noise free.. no. Detail/DoF is due to bigger sensor and lens. Like i said within the limits of a P&S, there isnt much of a difference.

What I mean with noise-free is within regular range of ISO. I really don't mean noise free at all. You agree that detail and DOF due to bigger sensor, and how do you get them on a P&S? And there lies the difference.

Serious photographers do check the pic at pixel level. When you crop the image to get a better frame, quality at pixel level is important. A serious photographer would always prefer a DSLR.

**aargee** · 06-30-2012, 10:14 AM

My love is always towards the bridge; something better than P&S but close to DSLR; DSLR's cost a bomb & even in 100 years I cannot leverage the full potential; P&S are good for taking pics, but not something like macros etc.

Bridge is something really good for people like me who tries to make one best shot once in a blue moon as well as with price

**ravi@17bhp** · 06-30-2012, 10:34 AM

Originally posted by aargee View Post

My love is always towards the bridge; something better than P&S but close to DSLR; DSLR's cost a bomb & even in 100 years I cannot leverage the full potential; P&S are good for taking pics, but not something like macros etc.

Bridge is something really good for people like me who tries to make one best shot once in a blue moon as well as with price

Ultimately, it all depends on the needs. Though I like to use DSLR, I have always settled for bridge cameras. Even recently I bought one that is close to DSLR in handling.

DSLRs are now cheaper and not very costly. You can get an entry-level Canon for 20k (Canon's bridge camera G12 is at 30k). Coupled with a 50 mm lens, you get outstanding images. Also, there is a sea-change difference in handling and response between a DSLR and a bridge camera. Bridge cameras are always slower.

The reason I bought bridge camera is its portability and convenience to carry while touring.

But, one day I am sure gonna get a DSLR with 50 mm prime lens.

**aargee** · 06-30-2012, 02:24 PM

Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post

Ultimately, it all depends on the needs

Absolutely; that's the reason I'm happy with S5IS, SX150 IS series. Light on pocket too; besides these days, S/W are more used than the camera itself

I'd my own share of SLRs during the film era; I still have Canon Elan IIe with me weighing around half Kg excluding the 70-300 & 28-80 lenses

I'd a long thought if I should ever get back to DSLR's due to the awesome results it produces; but sometimes I think these electronics are more fragile in the environment we use. For eg, my S5IS has been used in temp at 47 to -25 (Michigan) & have taken pictures of about 9 DVD's & about 8GB more to burn in the last 4.5 years. I'll be quite worried to use DSLR's like that.

For the kind of my use & the cost of DSLR, I prefer using a bridge or even less because my needs are more important to fit for the features that a camera offers.

**yellowspunk** · 07-17-2012, 04:20 AM

Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post

What I mean with noise-free is within regular range of ISO. I really don't mean noise free at all. You agree that detail and DOF due to bigger sensor, and how do you get them on a P&S? And there lies the difference.

Serious photographers do check the pic at pixel level. When you crop the image to get a better frame, quality at pixel level is important. A serious photographer would always prefer a DSLR.

read my posts dude !! within the limits of a P&S ! :/ nobody is talking of pushing dslr out of business.

Originally posted by aargee View Post

Absolutely; that's the reason I'm happy with S5IS, SX150 IS series. Light on pocket too; besides these days, S/W are more used than the camera itself

I'd my own share of SLRs during the film era; I still have Canon Elan IIe with me weighing around half Kg excluding the 70-300 & 28-80 lenses

I'd a long thought if I should ever get back to DSLR's due to the awesome results it produces; but sometimes I think these electronics are more fragile in the environment we use. For eg, my S5IS has been used in temp at 47 to -25 (Michigan) & have taken pictures of about 9 DVD's & about 8GB more to burn in the last 4.5 years. I'll be quite worried to use DSLR's like that.

For the kind of my use & the cost of DSLR, I prefer using a bridge or even less because my needs are more important to fit for the features that a camera offers.

So you got yourself a SX150? How is the performance? can you post some sample pictures? I was gonna buy that before i settled for the panasonic.

**ravi@17bhp** · 07-17-2012, 07:06 AM

Originally posted by yellowspunk View Post

read my posts dude !! within the limits of a P&S ! :/ nobody is talking of pushing dslr out of business.

Even if I read multiple times, the quality of a point n shoot will not match a DSLR. Period. ;-)

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**aargee** · 07-17-2012, 07:56 AM

Originally posted by yellowspunk View Post

So you got yourself a SX150? How is the performance? can you post some sample pictures? I was gonna buy that before i settled for the panasonic.

It does more than awesome job as P&S that's all; clearly the swivel LCD panel missing is quite visible. But extremely helpful if you want to take pictures as you ride. But the SPORTS mode is missing.

One good thing is the 28mm wide angle lens is very helpful & 1CM macro is beneficial compared to 0CM.

Flash is one crap; I'm still learning as where to position the camera so that the flash is not too bright (not too low); I'm compensating by doing a slight over exposure at long distance. Hope you understood what it means.

**yellowspunk** · 07-18-2012, 02:51 AM

Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post

Even if I read multiple times, the quality of a point n shoot will not match a DSLR. Period. ;-)

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agree to disagree !

Originally posted by aargee View Post

It does more than awesome job as P&S that's all; clearly the swivel LCD panel missing is quite visible. But extremely helpful if you want to take pictures as you ride. But the SPORTS mode is missing.

One good thing is the 28mm wide angle lens is very helpful & 1CM macro is beneficial compared to 0CM.

Flash is one crap; I'm still learning as where to position the camera so that the flash is not too bright (not too low); I'm compensating by doing a slight over exposure at long distance. Hope you understood what it means.

Yea. Got it bro. I guess since the cam runs on AA batteries the flash isnt that powerful for a distant shot but then most cams arent. is the shutter lag okay?

**aargee** · 07-18-2012, 08:28 AM

Originally posted by yellowspunk View Post

Yea. Got it bro. I guess since the cam runs on AA batteries the flash isnt that powerful for a distant shot but then most cams arent. is the shutter lag okay?

No no; the range of the flash itself is low; its immaterial of the batteries

**ravi@17bhp** · 07-18-2012, 08:59 AM

Originally posted by yellowspunk View Post

agree to disagree !

Yes you can. Ignorance is a bliss. Enjoy it!

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