The Personal Computer Thread

[monty007]

^ maybe...but never heard of dat kinda virus...maybe windows wud have been corrupted..repair it...

[sam92]

Edit the boot.ini file on c:\ , its a system file , hence go and make it visible first.

Else go to system properties , advanced , start up and recovery , settings and go and edit this file from here or change some options.

(P.S. this was in XP , I am expecting it to be same in Vista)

EDIT : run windows DOS(start->run->command) , type bcdedit.exe , now you will need to remove unwanted entries.

this thing went WAY above my head

[niks_devil666]

Since I don't have vista , cant really guide you step by step.

The only thing I can recommend is to google 'how to edit bcdedit.exe' or 'editing boot configuring data' or try this ms help and support link - >

BCDEdit Commands for Boot Environment

[sam92]

Since I don't have vista , cant really guide you step by step.

The only thing I can recommend is to google 'how to edit bcdedit.exe' or 'editing boot configuring data' or try this ms help and support link - >

BCDEdit Commands for Boot Environment

thankz ill check it out

[Praful]

Guys a lil piece of info required....

Approx. how much would the ATI Radeon HD 4850 512MB PCI-E card cost here in India?

How would you guys rate this card?

How much and which power supply would be suitable to run this?

I have the following mobo+processor - AMD Athlon X2 Dual Core 7750+, Gigabyte GAM61PME-S2 Mobo

[tanay]

Guys a lil piece of info required....

Approx. how much would the ATI Radeon HD 4850 512MB PCI-E card cost here in India?

How would you guys rate this card?

How much and which power supply would be suitable to run this?

I have the following mobo+processor - AMD Athlon X2 Dual Core 7750+, Gigabyte GAM61PME-S2 Mobo

A 512 MB 4850 will cost somewhere between 6-7K (plus the usual Bangalore tax). These prices are post the ATI price cuts and so may need some time to come into effect here.

A 4850 is great for running the current games at Medium to Highest settings but only at resolutions up to 1680X1050. At HD resolutions and above this card is held back by its 512 MB memory. If you play at HD resolutions then get the 1 GB variant or consider the 4890.
As you are running only one card any smps of around 450 W (for e.g the Corsair VX450) should be enough.

[anvancy]

Guys a lil piece of info required....

Approx. how much would the ATI Radeon HD 4850 512MB PCI-E card cost here in India?

How would you guys rate this card?

How much and which power supply would be suitable to run this?

I have the following mobo+processor - AMD Athlon X2 Dual Core 7750+, Gigabyte GAM61PME-S2 Mobo

what monitor you have?20 or 22inch?cause if you have that and if you are considering ATI then you will have to look for the 1GB version.

[Praful]

A 512 MB 4850 will cost somewhere between 6-7K (plus the usual Bangalore tax). These prices are post the ATI price cuts and so may need some time to come into effect here.

A 4850 is great for running the current games at Medium to Highest settings but only at resolutions up to 1680X1050. At HD resolutions and above this card is held back by its 512 MB memory. If you play at HD resolutions then get the 1 GB variant or consider the 4890.
As you are running only one card any smps of around 450 W (for e.g the Corsair VX450) should be enough.

So how much would the 1gig variant cost and how much for the 4890?

Also, how much would the VX450 cost?

@Anvancy: I have a 20" lcd!

Between nVidia and ATI for similar spec'd cars which is a better buy? Isn't nVidia always priced a lil more than ATI

[ceasar]

Edit the boot.ini file on c:\ , its a system file , hence go and make it visible first.

Else go to system properties , advanced , start up and recovery , settings and go and edit this file from here or change some options.

(P.S. this was in XP , I am expecting it to be same in Vista)

EDIT : run windows DOS(start->run->command) , type bcdedit.exe , now you will need to remove unwanted entries.

that is not visible i guess...system properties is aa good option..direct edit nothing else needed..
btw in linux that boot.ini is directly visible to us and u can edit that directly..

vista sucks a lot of time..man..btw u shouldn't be getting that two options ...did u upgrade it correctly??

[anvancy]

So how much would the 1gig variant cost and how much for the 4890?

Also, how much would the VX450 cost?

@Anvancy: I have a 20" lcd!

Between nVidia and ATI for similar spec'd cars which is a better buy? Isn't nVidia always priced a lil more than ATI

that would make your resolution beyond 1280*1024.my advice for you will be to simply buy the 1GB version if you going for ATI.check the prices of 4850 and 4870 of 1GB near ur place.

cause according to me,buying 512MB and then lowering your resolution so that you can play smooth is not a good thing.the card should be capable to handle high resolutions.

regarding nvidia or ATI it all comes down to fanism.so check for 9800GTX or GTS 250 or 260 for nvidia.

4800 series for ATI.now 4770 is also here.so choice is urs.

anvancy

anvancy.

[pranay]

Between nVidia and ATI for similar spec'd cars which is a better buy? Isn't nVidia always priced a lil more than ATI

Thats like asking 'which is better? Hero Honda or Bajaj?'

ATI and NViDIA both are good and both of them keep cutting prices of their middle range cards to counter the other's new card/threat. As of now 4850 is the best VFM card. Its closest competitor is the 9800GTX which it beats as well (except for maybe Crysis textures which are better in Nvidia cards anyway).

[gold_heart007]

cause according to me,buying 512MB and then lowering your resolution so that you can play smooth is not a good thing.the card should be capable to handle high resolutions.

Funny! Coz, as far as i know, higher capacity GPUs only aid higher resolutions, if they sport better bandwidth, memory speeds and texture fill rates. The difference is almost negligible in most of the cards. Plus, the card's price makes up for most of the cases. Consider any of them, e.g.
8600GT 256MB vs 8600GT 512MB or 9800GT 512MB vs 9800GT 1GB or 4850 512MB vs 4850 1GB!
However, if price difference between the two is considerable, then one should go for higher capacity model, provided..all technical details are similar.

[audesai]

Rpg

Fallout 3
the best freakin game ever...

kept me occupied... spent whole weekend... at one stage played non-stop for 36 hrs and finally finished it...

well that was couple of months back have finished it 3 time since thn

[Hyperion]

Funny! Coz, as far as i know, higher capacity GPUs only aid higher resolutions, if they sport better bandwidth, memory speeds and texture fill rates. The difference is almost negligible in most of the cards. Plus, the card's price makes up for most of the cases. Consider any of them, e.g.
8600GT 256MB vs 8600GT 512MB or 9800GT 512MB vs 9800GT 1GB or 4850 512MB vs 4850 1GB!
However, if price difference between the two is considerable, then one should go for higher capacity model, provided..all technical details are similar.

Thats not necessarily true. Higher resolutions require high resolution textures which in turn require more memory. So if you play on higher resolution on a card with low on board memory, you are bound to exhaust the memory while loading textures this will cause the GPU to start thrashing(i.e. Load Textures from system memory Or even page file storage). That basically turns the gaming experience into a slide show.

[gold_heart007]

Thats not necessarily true. Higher resolutions require high resolution textures which in turn require more memory. So if you play on higher resolution on a card with low on board memory, you are bound to exhaust the memory while loading textures this will cause the GPU to start thrashing(i.e. Load Textures from system memory Or even page file storage). That basically turns the gaming experience into a slide show.

You're quoting the same, that i've said earlier!
Ok, here is how it works..
A card that has 1GB of RAM and a 256bit bus will only be able to address 512mb consistently fast... the more RAM you use on the card, the more latency increases so it will be sufficiently slower in memory intensive apps than a card that has 1GB and a 512bit Bus.
See, it depends on what Graphics card you buy really.
A 1GB card with a 256bit bus may be a little faster in professional programs due to the increased RAM, but Gaming wise it will be the same as the 512MB card, or slower in some cases too!