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  • Yamaha YZF R15 - Catalytic Converter (CatCon) Removal

    Friends,

    This article will show you how to remove the Catalytic Converter (Catcon) from your R15.

    Note: This Tread is only for R15 and may not be applicable for any other bike, do not compare any info in this article with other bikes please.

    Catalytic Converter (Catcon) is a element in exhaust pipe to treat the exhaust gas and convert them into harmless gas, in-order to comply with emission norms.

    Why Removal?

    This is the 1st question for almost everyone who see this article. Let me brief my story. I have a modified 180CC setup for my R15 with modified ECU, High Flow Air Filter all supplied by Joel (Except for the Piston), as you know most modified/Joel'd R15s have Free Flow Exhaust as a part of the package. I personally do not like the screaming sound and my perception is like "I own a 1+ Lakh bike and it must be gentle" . Moreover I work for a corporate and folks here give their worst attention towards loud free flow exhausts.

    So I decided to have no compromises anywhere in my setup like retaining the Stock engine smoothness, exhaust note, but still gain 17HP at the rear wheel. (Approx 19-20Hp at Crank).

    In order to accomplish the above task, I had to stick with the stock exhaust. So just to tweak the stock exhaust to give more exhaust flow, I removed Catcon,

    But the true story is,

    The mesh type single catcon in R15 is very accurately designed/placed in such a way that it would hardly block any air flow, But the Catcon tends to get Red hot under normal operation which in turn dissolves the unburnt gases before hitting the muffler assembly. So this process tends to slow down the air flow and increase the exhaust temperature/back pressure.

    Also while the Catcon turns red hot, actually the engine gains more back pressure, but there is no direct relation between catcon and back pressure, its achieved through resonators present in the muffler assembly. Its just the Airflow process is delayed in microsecs causing this virtual gain in back pressure.

    Let me keep the article as simple as possible, and before getting into the DIY steps, lets see the Positive and negative aspects. Theoretically removing catcon has various drawbacks and also illegal in terms of emission norms, but practically in my 20,000Km experience I have nothing to bother upon.




    +ves
    1) Better cooling
    2) Increased Air intake
    3) Mileage 45+Kpl For stock R15 (Before cat removal it was >40Kpl)
    4) Vibe free, revs smoothly
    5) No change in Exhaust note
    6) better topend
    7) Practical Emission test passed for BS3
    8) Must for bigger bore modifications
    9) Also remember a Free Flow Exhaust will not have a Catcon, We can assume that this is an FFE in-terms of emission

    -ves
    1) For custom ECUs, you need accurate Fuel supply, else exhaust backfire. (No an issue with stock R15)
    2) Risk of local Welding.
    3) Theoretically Engine life factor gets affected (But I have done 20K)
    4) If its custom bore/comp ratio then loss of engine backpressure (No an issue with stock R15)
    5) Looks - The welding mess creates a bad impression.
    6) Theoretically should fail emission norms. (But Practically its passes with stock values)


    Prerequisites:

    Find a good welder near your place, I have done normal gas welding, while the industrial TIG welding will be much better and accurate.

    Cost involved:

    97Rs Apache 150's Exhaust side cover
    250Rs Welding and cover fitting Charges

    Steps:


    Step 1:

    Remove the exhaust cover and also make sure the Brake hose to rear disc caliper is secured and instruct the welder that the hose and other wires are to be considered while welding.


    Note: Step 2 is the most important step, if you get this right then the job should complete in 15mins, else it will become a big mess and you may end-up spoiling your exhaust.


    Step 2:

    Start opening the exhaust pipe at the exact spot indicated by the arrow by welding cut process, Which is just 0.5CM next to the factory welding.



    Note: Observe the factory welding ring, it is the last one that connects the muffler assembly.

    Step 3:

    After opening the exhaust can, you can find the Cat con as shown below,




    Step 4:

    Make the welder do the same welding cut process at the spot indicated by the arrow and remove the catcon by cutting down the entire catcon all round.

    Step 5:

    The remaining 10% of catcon will stick in the exhaust itself, use a hook or bend a screw driver like a hook and pull out the remaining Catcon.




    Step 6:

    Without the muffler assembly, start your bike and immediately twist the throttle upto 5K RPM, so that the left over particles in exhaust pipe will be thrown out.

    Note: Remember without muffler assembly your bike will sound really loud, so turn off the bike in 30-40 Secs.

    Step 7:

    Place the exhaust muffler back and screw it and then start the Join welding process and complete it.


    Note: Make sure you screw the Muffler assembly back and then weld, else the angle of muffler assembly may change.

    Note: Ensure that the weld job is 100% sealed. You can check this by keeping your hand closer to the welding area and idle the bike. If in case there are any tiny openings, you will get to feel the exhaust gas through that opening.

    Step 8:

    The welding job will look like a mess, so find the image below to see how the Apache 150's exhaust side cover is placed, the same welder will be able to complete this task for you.




    Thats is it, you are ready to roll, you will find a good increase in pickup, topend and mileage!!!!!

    Step 9: (Only for 165CC Big bore users, Not applicable for Stock R15)

    In case if you find any issues with loss in back pressure and throttle getting flat, find the below image and add a small extension pipe at the end (A normal PVC wiring pipe will do the job)

    My setup is 180CC and opening the catcon resulted in making throttle response flat, like it will go on to 7K RPM and stay there in all gears. Absolutely no torque felt, somewhat similar to a huge compression loss. At first I added this extension pipe for 1CM and with trial and error ended up at 0.5CM for accurate back-pressure gain.





    Last Word: Honestly you will forget that you removed Catcon in a few days, because gives no trouble further.

    My Bike after the Cat con removal.












    Hope the article was useful to you, also sorry for not including many pics, coz I had no intention to post a DIY while removing the Catcon and these were the only pics clicked.

    Please provide your valuable suggestions and Questions below.
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  • #2
    DIY approved.

    Good that you mentioned the pros and cons of this procedure beforehand.
    (Been There Done That) x 3.25

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    • #3
      @Harish - Removing the cat is not recommended on most modern engines. Esp the R15. The overall tuned length in disrupted and the engine becomes flat. I'm more in favour of retaining it as it is, even with a larger bore, over a non-cat exhaust.
      All these exhausts are tuned quite well. To beat a factory exhaust system, its not easy.
      Esp on the R15, even a wrongly built freeflow, or most freeflow systems dont work well. Even the daytona exhaust system makes the engine quite flat. It only works with a shorter gearing. A well tuned exhaust system will work with the given gearing and increase torque across the range. With no loss to low, mid or top whack.
      Trust me, Yamaha has done a wonderful job with the stock r15 exhaust.
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      • #4
        Thank you so much sir for posting this DIY, this is the first thing i plan to get removed from my new R15v1 (secondhand) as soon as i get it tomorrow.
        I have seen the amazing effects catcon removal had on my friends rtr180; bike became almost vibe free and also a good deal of increase in the mileage
        Again thank you so much for taking time out of ur schedule to post it even sooner than you had promised
        Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, 'Wow! What a Ride!' -Hunter S. Thompson

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        • #5
          it's advised to close the AIS line, since difference in flow now usually causes the muffler to pop

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          • #6
            Nice. I would always prefer this over FFE.

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            • #7
              Thanks sir for uploading this DIY so soon, this is the first thing i plan to do tomoro when i get my newr15v1 (secondhand).
              I have seen the effect catcon removal had on my friends rtr 180, the bike was literaly vibe free.
              Hoping for great results on my bike too
              Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, 'Wow! What a Ride!' -Hunter S. Thompson

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Joel View Post
                @Harish - Removing the cat is not recommended on most modern engines. Esp the R15. The overall tuned length in disrupted and the engine becomes flat. I'm more in favour of retaining it as it is, even with a larger bore, over a non-cat exhaust.
                All these exhausts are tuned quite well. To beat a factory exhaust system, its not easy.
                Esp on the R15, even a wrongly built freeflow, or most freeflow systems dont work well. Even the daytona exhaust system makes the engine quite flat. It only works with a shorter gearing. A well tuned exhaust system will work with the given gearing and increase torque across the range. With no loss to low, mid or top whack.
                Trust me, Yamaha has done a wonderful job with the stock r15 exhaust.

                Thanks Joel,


                Yes, theoretically there are many drawbacks in removing catcon, but being honest, practically there is no issue seen by anyone who removed catcon, only they enjoy the benefits like Mileage, Rev-friendly engine and vibe-free ride.

                Like I said most of us forgot the catcon removal. The bike has become more rev friendly and gain in torque from initial RPMs for all of us.The riders feel a huge difference in terms of pickup and topend.

                I have also mentioned

                "3) Theoretically Engine life factor gets affected (But I have done 20K)" in the -ves. But it applies to all FFE as well.

                Regarding throttle getting flat, I apologize to slightly differ from your thought, coz you can see the pictures and they all belong to three different R15's, only mine was modified and had the throttle problem.

                While other two R15's shown in the pics are full stock. The red R15 rider is also my friend from XBHP and he travels a lot and is very very happy with the removal. He says it has helped him in a lot in saving fuel at the same time a vibe-free ride and an amazing top speed all better than before, his mileage increased from 35ish to 45ish and a good 10Kph increase in top speed.

                Moreover my custom setup used to give lot of heat and the Radiator Fan used to kick in while I just leave the key on after a ride. But after catcon removal I can touch the Exhaust at any point with bare hands and the radiator fan never kicks after killing the engine kill switch. My Coolant oil level stays higher than before.


                I had the back firing issue due to extreme Rich fueling, thanks to you for getting a perfect remap. You wont believe me if I say there are days I ran 50KMPL on highways.
                Last edited by HarishK; 03-12-2012, 11:51 AM.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by tiara1974 View Post
                  it's advised to close the AIS line, since difference in flow now usually causes the muffler to pop
                  Many Thanks Bro Haen,

                  I still had rare/occasional Popping from exhaust and I also tried Iridium spark + Split Fire did not help much.

                  But closing AIS fixed the problem completely and yes closing AIS is a is part of the Yamaha racing in their racing parts for R6/R1.

                  I got advice from Sir Traxxas, in T135 forum.

                  Find the below image YZF R15 vs T135. I blocked both the hose as instructed by Sir Traxxas in his article for T135.

                  For blocking hose I cut and used white color racing type rubber slippers to complete the job

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by revvhard View Post
                    Thank you so much sir for posting this DIY, this is the first thing i plan to get removed from my new R15v1 (secondhand) as soon as i get it tomorrow.
                    I have seen the amazing effects catcon removal had on my friends rtr180; bike became almost vibe free and also a good deal of increase in the mileage
                    Again thank you so much for taking time out of ur schedule to post it even sooner than you had promised
                    Is there any loss of power and how does exhaust look after catcon removed, I mean the welding part.
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                    • #11
                      ^^ it does look a little odd, after the welding an cutting process but my welder did quite a neat job and the next day i just painted over the exhaust with matte black spray paint and now it is barely noticeable.
                      Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, 'Wow! What a Ride!' -Hunter S. Thompson

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                      • #12
                        Harish sir, would you advise that i also close the air induction system hose's or is that only for modified r15's?
                        i have also experienced the muffler popping once since the entire process was done.
                        Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, 'Wow! What a Ride!' -Hunter S. Thompson

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                        • #13
                          @revvhard
                          How does the bike feels after the removal of the cat con? Do write in your experience, also update on the mileage figs.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by revvhard View Post
                            Harish sir, would you advise that i also close the air induction system hose's or is that only for modified r15's?
                            i have also experienced the muffler popping once since the entire process was done.

                            The stock ECU has no issues, coz the fuel supply is accurate to stock setup or lean in case of modds. So there wont be any popping from the exhaust at all. So I hope AIS blocking is not required.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by amitmalve View Post
                              @revvhard
                              How does the bike feels after the removal of the cat con? Do write in your experience, also update on the mileage figs.
                              In a word, it feels stock.

                              only that now i am getting mileage of 45, and the bike revs more freely.
                              Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, 'Wow! What a Ride!' -Hunter S. Thompson

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