General SBK Discussion Thread

[rossiter]

i just out of curiosity wanted to ask which is the best SBK available in india which nedds the least maintenance .

It depends on what "least" is. But like Bladerunner says, a Honda is your best bet.

Well, then answer is very simple - Ducati 1098. It requires services only after each 12,000 kms have passed. But then, it's way expensive for many of us...

The 2 japs (R1 & CBR) do require good maintanence. However, for other bikes, or older models of these bikes, maybe some older members might post some info ...

That Ducati costs 48 lakhs! Just buy a Honda.

@Blade: You're talking about the 1098R which is 48L. There is the 1098S on offer.. which is 24 if I remember correctly.

@Samarth: Am glad to see you posting something with good content nowadays.

[nitrosatya]

I recently read somewhere that you control the twin cylinder bikes with power and torque while you control the four cylinder bikes with revs.

Can anyone please clarify?
Thanks!

[Ducati695]

I recently read somewhere that you control the twin cylinder bikes with power and torque while you control the four cylinder bikes with revs.

Can anyone please clarify?
Thanks!

Do you mean an inline twin or a V?

[Ducati695]

Firstly, no new & legal 600cc officially available in India right now.

From what I hear, With the Official Ducati Dealer - Precision Motors Mumbai Ducati Monster 696 = 9.96 Lahks Ex Showroom

[ken cool]

From what I hear, With the Official Ducati Dealer - Precision Motors Mumbai Ducati Monster 696 = 9.96 Lahks Ex Showroom

If that is correct, then that is a decent price considering the current pricing of Sbks.

[sukant08]

I recently read somewhere that you control the twin cylinder bikes with power and torque while you control the four cylinder bikes with revs.

Can anyone please clarify?
Thanks!

Not quite sure I understood the question i'm afraid !
As far as I know you control both the twin, and the inline 4 with one thing, the twist of the throttle !!

From my experience of a small capacity V-twin, I can say that the torque does feel to kick in pretty early. But you still need to control it through throttle modulation. Gear changes are not that necessary though ...

[nitrosatya]

Do you mean an inline twin or a V?

Vtwin. Inline twin will act similar to inline four i guess!

What i mean to ask was that on a V-twin bike, u have to constantly keep the bike in power band by sensing the power-torque curve.Revs don't matter as much as fours.

On a four cylinder bike, u can do that by just controlling the revs.You don't need to sense the power band.

[Streetfighter]

From what I hear, With the Official Ducati Dealer - Precision Motors Mumbai Ducati Monster 696 = 9.96 Lahks Ex Showroom

Are you sure? The last time I asked when the Monster was just about to be brought down was 15-ish. I wanted to get the HyperMotard too but that was working out to an insane 20+ lacs. I'll call them and find out again.

Vtwin. Inline twin will act similar to inline four i guess!

What i mean to ask was that on a V-twin bike, u have to constantly keep the bike in power band by sensing the power-torque curve.Revs don't matter as much as fours.

On a four cylinder bike, u can do that by just controlling the revs.You don't need to sense the power band.

What are you on about? You have to keep any automobile in the power band to extract the pleasure of operating one. Twin, single, triple, doesn't really matter.

[sukant08]

Vtwin. Inline twin will act similar to inline four i guess!

What i mean to ask was that on a V-twin bike, u have to constantly keep the bike in power band by sensing the power-torque curve.Revs don't matter as much as fours.

On a four cylinder bike, u can do that by just controlling the revs.You don't need to sense the power band.

See, power bands also occur at a particular rev. So to keep a bike at a particular power band, you'll have to keep the bike at arev. So there revs matter after all !!
Also power band is more of a phenomemon on peaky engines. In general, the torque curve of a v-twin motor is more spread out and is flatter. So there is no real need to keep it in a power band. U get more than 60% of the max available torque right from a very low rev (say 2500) to till about 6000 or so !! So its not peaky.

Still haven't understood what your query was though !!

[frank_dude_007]

It depends on what "least" is. But like Bladerunner says, a Honda is your best bet.

By least i mean getting the bike serviced once a year and keeping it outside in all kind of weather and not doing much of its cleaning like washing it every week or every month.
so which sbk can survive under my cruelty,and BTW ducati is way of the range its hell lot costly

[crazy_rahul]

From what I hear, With the Official Ducati Dealer - Precision Motors Mumbai Ducati Monster 696 = 9.96 Lahks Ex Showroom

Yes its true.. Infact I have been quoted 9.66lac for monster 696 ex showroom Mumbai. Hence the confusion wit cb1000r

[MR ACE]

I wanted to get the HyperMotard too but that was working out to an insane 20+ lacs. I'll call them and find out again

Hypermotard For 20+lacs It Can't be, For the 20+lacs 848,1098/1198 & So 1098 R Comes,Check Again

[niks_devil666]

From what I hear, With the Official Ducati Dealer - Precision Motors Mumbai Ducati Monster 696 = 9.96 Lahks Ex Showroom

wasn't it 14-15ish when ducati came to india?

But 10 L for the Ducati sure is tempting , any idea about spares cost , service cost as compared to Honda? (taking cb1000r for eg.)

[niks_devil666]

Hypermotard For 20+lacs It Can't be, For the 20+lacs 848,1098/1198 & So 1098 R Comes,Check Again

We are talking about full duty paid official imports , not the grey market ones. (1098R goes upto 48 ex showroom)

[Streetfighter]

When I was looking for a bike in July/August last year I also talked to Precision Motors, this is from the price list they emailed me in August 2008. These are ex-showroom Mumbai prices. So, as I said, I'm not paying over 20 lacs for the Hypermotard. I chose the MT01 and I think it was the right choice. Though would love to have the HM as a second, fun, hooligan bike

Hypermotard 1100 : 18,20,971
Hypermotard 1100S : 20,72,205

Monster 695 : 13,41,516
Monster 696 : 13,78,097
Monster 696 + : 14,23,598

Their entire Indian range is also listed in the pdf if anyone is interested. Are you saying they lied to me when I enquired or they've dropped prices by 50% since August 2008?