General SBK Discussion Thread

[tanay]

I searched a bit but could not find a match, so here's hoping this isn't terribly OT:

I was hanging around a bike parking in Singapore when I got to meet a chap on a Honda CB400. Now I had seen scores of CB400's on the streets and so I knew it is a popular bike there.

The guy told me a new one costs 12K SGD which is around 4.2 L INR

I really felt that this is the bike Honda should be plonking in Indian showrooms, but I guess that is not happening anytime soon.

55 hp and 40NM torque @ 7-8K rpm seem to be the figures, and these bikes really howl. The ones fitted with an aftermarket exhaust sound great.

Nice retro styling and plenty of power...I liked this bike.

Its a bit odd, but google does not seem to have much info on these probably because they are only found in SE-Asian countries.

Great budget I-4 IMO.

[MAN_UTD]

Guys please help me out to buy a used sbk in normal condition mostly i prefer a gsxr and cbr 600. Is there any one of these for sale. Guys please help as i'm going to hyderabad this weekend any information where can i get it in hyderabad. Model from 2001-2006

[sayan]

Guys please help me out to buy a used sbk in normal condition mostly i prefer a gsxr and cbr 600. Is there any one of these for sale. Guys please help as i'm going to hyderabad this weekend any information where can i get it in hyderabad. Model from 2001-2006

+1...but not in Hyderbad.....in Kolkata.

[sheelpriye]

How much is the tire wear of a 1000 when compared to a 600?

In India doesn't the center of the tire wear out faster than the sides making it ....(dunno the right term)

Tires and Insurance along with FE* is the biggest deterrent for Motorcyclist abroad and they hence choose the convenience of a 600 over a regular 1000.

*Most guys ride for miles and miles and one bloke has done 3,20,000kms on his F4i w/o clutch replacement but is worried about tires/FE/insurance.

[fireblah]

Just rode the CBR600 today again after a lot of days. Trust me sheel, its the best bike to have. Its simply amazing...
Tyre wear is less I think compared to blade. This particular bike has done close to 8k i think (not too sure) and still alot of tread to go.
Yes, my last tyre's middle part did run out before the edges, making it "square out".
Honda India promises full service support for all honda bikes ever made ! they will get the spares (which you can get from other sources as well) directly imported from japan and fix your bike also....

[Old Fox]

How much is the tire wear of a 1000 when compared to a 600?

A 1000cc supersports wears out tires as if they are running on emery paper . 600's are a lot gentler on the tyres.

In India doesn't the center of the tire wear out faster than the sides making it ....(dunno the right term)

Tyre wear depends on the kind of usage they are put through,. Rare is a superbike in India that is regularly put through the paces at a race track. Most of its riding in straight line type. So the center wears off quicker. The sides are almost always a lot better than the center. The R1's we rode for GIR2 had a flat center after about 7k kms.

Tires and Insurance along with FE* is the biggest deterrent for Motorcyclist abroad and they hence choose the convenience of a 600 over a regular 1000.

*Most guys ride for miles and miles and one bloke has done 3,20,000kms on his F4i w/o clutch replacement but is worried about tires/FE/insurance.

There's a simple calculation to put the tyre cost into perspective. A typical set of front and rear say on the R1 costs about Rs. 20,000 on an average and lasts not more than 10,000kms. Thats about Rs. 2/- per km added to your operating costs just factoring in the tyres. The R1 typically returns about 15 kmpl which converts to almost Rs. 4/- per km. Add another Rs. 2-3 for insurance if you typically use the bike for about 10k kms a year. that works out to Rs. 8/- per km. This is excluding the service, oil, filters, chain and brake maintenance costs.

A typical 1000km ride would put you back by Rs. 8000/- at the very least just for riding the bike . Think of a 3000km 4-5 day round-trip while staying at places that have a secure parking for your bike (such places are not cheap) and you'll get the idea of what it is like to own and use a superbike.

Just rode the CBR600 today again after a lot of days. Trust me sheel, its the best bike to have. Its simply amazing...
Tyre wear is less I think compared to blade. This particular bike has done close to 8k i think (not too sure) and still alot of tread to go.
Yes, my last tyre's middle part did run out before the edges, making it "square out".
Honda India promises full service support for all honda bikes ever made ! they will get the spares (which you can get from other sources as well) directly imported from japan and fix your bike also....

400-600cc bikes make the most sense in our country. They have enough surplus power to allow you to do almost anything on the road, are light to handle and the operating costs are almost close to half of a litre-class bike.

[n_aditya]

Check this one out... Costs over 100,000 GBP, 257 bhp and 133 Nm Torque.

YouTube - 257bhp Icon Sheene - first ride

[fireblah]

400-600cc bikes make the most sense in our country. They have enough surplus power to allow you to do almost anything on the road, are light to handle and the operating costs are almost close to half of a litre-class bike.

Yes exactly ! the 600 today made me feel like "oh yes, this is exactly the bike for me".
I am still waiting for CB400 to come to India... I need it for daily commuting...(and everything else too).

[sheelpriye]

A 1000cc supersports wears out tires as if they are running on emery paper . 600's are a lot gentler on the tyres.
that works out to Rs. 8/- per km. This is excluding the service, oil, filters, chain and brake maintenance costs.

Truth is always bitter.

A typical 1000km ride would put you back by Rs. 8000/- at the very least just for riding the bike . Think of a 3000km 4-5 day round-trip while staying at places that have a secure parking for your bike (such places are not cheap) and you'll get the idea of what it is like to own and use a superbike.

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400-600cc bikes make the most sense in our country. They have enough surplus power to allow you to do almost anything on the road, are light to handle and the operating costs are almost close to half of a litre-class bike.

Exactly, the CBR400RR is what we need here in India.

I think I am undergoing a shift in my priorities and the max which I am desiring nowadays (while being realistic) is a GSX-R 750. Not that I would cry if I get myself a 600RR or a ZX-6R (wish it had the extra 35cc like pre '06 days)

Hell, even a 400RR would be competent and fun and something which most can enjoy it to max and red-line in all gears w/o fearing the almighty.

Yes exactly ! the 600 today made me feel like "oh yes, this is exactly the bike for me".
I am still waiting for CB400 to come to India... I need it for daily commuting...(and everything else too).

Thanks a ton guys for taking out time answering

[xionite]

I am still waiting for CB400 to come to India... I need it for daily commuting...(and everything else too).

that's exactly wat we need here.

Exactly, the CBR400RR is what we need here in India.

Hell, even a 400RR would be competent and fun and something which most can enjoy it to max and red-line in all gears w/o fearing the almighty.

rode this black 400RR with a yoshimura pipe... mindblowing!!!
and i had even ridden the 2010 Fireblade the same evening...
but the babyblade made me smile more...
for the simple fact that it seemed pratical for our roads here...

the lil thing went way past the 180kmph on the speedo.
crazy power-packed I4!!!

and that yoshimura made it sing.

[Parth]

In India doesn't the center of the tire wear out faster than the sides making it ....(dunno the right term)

The wearing out of a tire depends on the contact patch. I mean the part of the tire which is in contact of the road wears off, leaving the other parts intact. Th1 massive 190 section tires that the liters use wear out in the center because not many people touch their knees at every corner, hence the corners of the tires don't wear off as quickly as the middle part as the corners come in contact with the road only while leaning.


And FYI : A tire which is bald in the middle and has plenty of rubber on the sides is said to have "chicken strips". This indicates that the rider doesn't lean the bike much while cornering.

that's exactly wat we need here.



rode this black 400RR with a yoshimura pipe... mindblowing!!!
and i had even ridden the 2010 Fireblade the same evening...
but the babyblade made me smile more...
for the simple fact that it seemed pratical for our roads here...

the lil thing went way past the 180kmph on the speedo.
crazy power-packed I4!!!

and that yoshimura made it sing.

Yeah the CBR400 makes a lot of sense in this country. Although as they were last made in 1994, so the styling is somehow old school. Then again there are a lot of aftermarket fairings manufacturers for the CBR400, some well known too, like TYGA, and K-conversions.

I've set my mind on this bike and will buy it as and when my pocket permits.


BTW: Dude your P180/R15''s fairing seem to be mis alligned in this pic, It seems not to be centered, but the nose it a little left of where it should be. Optical trick or is it that way only??

[sheelpriye]

And FYI : A tire which is bald in the middle and has plenty of rubber on the sides is said to have "chicken strips". This indicates that the rider doesn't lean the bike much while cornering.

It seems as if some rider on a track loses his front.

Were tires the culprit? As per my info, 600's can stretch tire's life wrt to 1000's.

Have been hearing repeatedly that chicken stripes, yes most pride in it (I too have showed 'em off at occasions) isn't doing your riding any good.

Squid riders/Posers is what guys with chicken stripes are called.

Chicken Stripes..Whats the deal? - Speedzilla Motorcycle Message Forums

getting rid of "chicken strips" - Honda Motorcycles - FireBlades.org

Motorcycle FAQ: Chicken Strips

Let's talk about ''chicken strips'' - Motorcycle Forum

I know my chicken stripes, but wanted to have the opinion of informed guys who regularly ride them

[xionite]

BTW: Dude your P180/R15''s fairing seem to be mis alligned in this pic, It seems not to be centered, but the nose it a little left of where it should be. Optical trick or is it that way only??

uhhhh... no! the bike's on the side stand...
the hadlebar's turned a bit to the left... that's all.

[xionite]

Sweet Vid

YouTube - BMW S1000RR Table Cloth

[burninrubbr]

^^ the best video I've ever seen !