General SBK Discussion Thread

[anshuljain]

Well, from my recent experience I think I could be of help.
As fate would have it, I misplaced the only key I had to my 954 a few weeks back.
Extensive and very intensive research helped me conclude the following:

1. If you're bike is running H.I.S.S. you're almost doomed if you do not have a key.

2. There is hardly anyone around in India who can make you a key without having an already chipped one.

3. If you're 954 is American spec you are a very lucky chap, you do not need to change the ECU as they did not have H.I.S.S. just get a locksmith to cut a key for you.

4. You will need a working chipped key to be able to duplicate another one made.

5. Another way of working around H.I.S.S. is you can buy a cheap used ECU off ebay and a wiring harness to go with that.

6. Wiring Harness for H.I.S.S. bikes ECUs is different from the American spec non H.I.S.S. bikes, and you don't wanna play around/jump wires on these bikes.

7. The only hitch to buying a used ECU is that it could be running some crap map, so you will need a Power Commander to sort that out.

8. Another cost effective way to work around the H.I.S.S. is the ECU module suggested by Stewarch.

For more reference and help lookup the following thread:
Lost my key, please help! - Sportbikes.net

Good luck with what you do, but please stay away from those burn a new chipped key, and alter some code guys.
The only source I could trace for this is someone in UK who does that for 250 GBP plus 25 GBP extra odd for each key. For this you have to send them your ECU and they post the stuff back to you.

hi Manson, i also have a 2003 954, checked with the honda guys in Delhi, they claimed that they could get a duplicate key from abroad, and they were also ready to service my bike.

[strider]

Guys just came back from Yam showroom and guess what
1)The MT01 is no longer available in Yam showrooms and the sexy V-Max shall replace it with a cool on-road tag of 22.7 lacs.
2) The 08 R1 has been replaced the 2010 version of the R1 stickered at 14.2 lacs with only the Blue and Raven color options in India...
Bookings are currently open for both these beasts, but will be delivered upon booking from Jan 2010 onwards....

PS: the prices above are the onroad prices in Bangalore

[anshuljain]

2010 R1 would cost around 13.35L on road in Delhi, and apart from raven, blue, white is also available. Booking amount is 5L, deliveries from jan.

[fireblah]

So is anyone from Xbhp gonna book the 2010 R1 ? since all the 09 owners are tight lipped about their existence..... zzZ

[anshuljain]

So is anyone from Xbhp gonna book the 2010 R1 ? since all the 09 owners are tight lipped about their existence..... zzZ

I am planning to buy the new R1, just waiting for the new gixxer , hope it will be launched at the auto expo.

[manson]

hi Manson, i also have a 2003 954, checked with the honda guys in Delhi, they claimed that they could get a duplicate key from abroad, and they were also ready to service my bike.

Well, duplicating a key from an already working one should not be a task, but I'm quite uncertain about the kind of support the authorised service centers would offer for a motorcycle no bought from a local Honda dealership.
In my case, I had lost the only key to my bike which left me with hardly any choices. I was fortunate to find an ECU-Chip pair for the 954 at my mech who made me two new orginial keys cut to my ignition, and the H.I.S.S. works perfectly.

manson.

[Streetfighter]

Guys just came back from Yam showroom and guess what
1)The MT01 is no longer available in Yam showrooms and the sexy V-Max shall replace it with a cool on-road tag of 22.7 lacs.
2) The 08 R1 has been replaced the 2010 version of the R1 stickered at 14.2 lacs with only the Blue and Raven color options in India...
Bookings are currently open for both these beasts, but will be delivered upon booking from Jan 2010 onwards....

PS: the prices above are the onroad prices in Bangalore

The R1 is available in white too. A couple of friends have booked it, costing them around 14.5 IIRC.

The MT-01 is on its way to achieving a cult status? May be I should demand a higher price for mine But seriously, we now have only I-4s (yeah the VMax is a V4 but same thing). No more twins except the Ducatis, and when the Hardlys roll in.

[frank_dude_007]

2010 R1 would cost around 13.35L on road in Delhi, and apart from raven, blue, white is also available. Booking amount is 5L, deliveries from jan.

DAMN !!
they increased it's price by a lakh , i think it was 12.5 earlier.......
please correct me if i am wrong

[anshuljain]

DAMN !!
they increased it's price by a lakh , i think it was 12.5 earlier.......
please correct me if i am wrong

2008 R1's on-road price was 11.3L earlier before they decided to charge a premium(daylight robbery).

[frank_dude_007]

Why do they rob us folks in india , i mean the r1 is available in U.S for 6.5 lakh Rs approx.
i understand there is duty and everything but the price of 14.5 lakh is not justified.....

now i have to seriously consider a gixxer or busa.......

[Prakrit Takkar]

@ Manson thanks for that tip
the catch is i am gettig a very good deal on a 954rr with the custom authorities but the problem being it does not have a key...that's wat it's all about
also about the US spec thing; it's having something like RE2134 on the plates so not quite sure of the origin of the bike

[anshuljain]

@ Manson thanks for that tip
the catch is i am gettig a very good deal on a 954rr with the custom authorities but the problem being it does not have a key...that's wat it's all about
also about the US spec thing; it's having something like RE2134 on the plates so not quite sure of the origin of the bike

you can find out about the bike by it's VIN(vehicle identification number).

[manson]

@ Manson thanks for that tip
the catch is i am gettig a very good deal on a 954rr with the custom authorities but the problem being it does not have a key...that's wat it's all about
also about the US spec thing; it's having something like RE2134 on the plates so not quite sure of the origin of the bike

Well, if the bike has a H.I.S.S. system, it will have the same written on the ignition barrel and probably a small decal of the same on the tank too.
If it does, you can always get the ECU Stewarch mentioned, if it doesnt have H.I.S.S. all you need to do is have your local locksmith cut a key for you, or order an O.E.M. brand new complete lock set for 89.99 USD which comes loaded with two keys, ignition loc, tank lock and rear seat lock.

manson.

[strider]

2010 R1 would cost around 13.35L on road in Delhi, and apart from raven, blue, white is also available. Booking amount is 5L, deliveries from jan.

Wow..interesting that the White option is available in Delhi...the white one is the metal pink white combination isnt it?

[frank_dude_007]

2010 R1 would cost around 13.35L on road in Delhi, and apart from raven, blue, white is also available. Booking amount is 5L, deliveries from jan.

the booking amount is 50% i.e. 6.25 lakh on the ex-showroom price