General SBK Discussion Thread

[Streetfighter]

guys, i had a news from a dealer about a fazer 1000cc(2007 model) for sale and went to have a look. it has clocked exactly 1955 kms, looks new and fited with akrapovic exhaust and MH registered. it has been quoted for a price of 7L and duties were not paid. is it worth 7L without proper papers?
also any idea of how much duty it has to be paid?

I think I may know that bike. What colour is it?

[bullseye_naren]

I think I may know that bike. What colour is it?

its blue.. reg num s MH xx 8776 and it came from mumbai....

[anshuljain]

@naren, I agree with insane79, not worth buying a grey bike, just think if caught in dri net and have to pay duties how much will it cost. in any case 7L for a grey fz1 is way too much. go for the legal honda cb1000r or a used official mt01.

[insane79]

go for an official cb1000r or try getting the MT01 like anshuljain has said, it a better move, dont get in thos grey market scam not worth it at the end of the day..

[ashtorque]

@naren, import duty for a 1000cc bike is 6.30 lakh. In addition to this you will have to pay 2.70 lakh bank guarantee. You stand to get back this amount after a certain period of time. Since this bike has not been caught by DRI anytime before, the moment to go to them the RTO registration becomes void. So you have to repay the road tax + registration tax + insurance. This may sum up to 50K. So you would pay, in addition to the cost of the bike, 6.30 Lakh + 2.70 Lakh + 50 k = 9.50 Lakhs approx. So if you buy this bike at 7 lakh, the total cost will be 16.50 lakhs...You are better off buying official 2010 R1 at 14 lakh.

[bullseye_naren]

@ashtorque, insane79 and anshuljain
thanks for ur inputs friends. i'l better stay away with that one. now hunting towards MT01 .
i had an offer for vmax (2003 model). but dint got hold of it as its way too powerful

[myg124]

Hey guys,

Regd a general query related to a used hornet 600 or the new Honda CB400sb or sf, I posted a thread: http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/superbik...400-super.html

Inputs and advice will be highly appreciated.

Cheers

[insane79]

@ashtorque, insane79 and anshuljain
thanks for ur inputs friends. i'l better stay away with that one. now hunting towards MT01 .
i had an offer for vmax (2003 model). but dint got hold of it as its way too powerful

good move bro, read the midday today, now cops are catching & seizing bikes in naka bandi checks..

[vid_powerstroke]

GUys this is the SBK discussion thread right ?

i have a question....

why do the fuel efficiency of a SBK so less ?
ok let me get my facts and thoughts straight.

take for instance a bike in the litre class.. and we shall compare it to a car in the same segment..
SBk have a very high , mind blowing power to weight ratio...

where as on the other hand , a 1000 cc car has a weight of close to 1000 kilos..yet the bike manages to give a slightly similar mileage. Y is this ? i expected a sbK to give a mileage of at least close to 30 ... honestly.. !! AND is this topic already discussed ?

[prashant Gosavi]

SBK mileage

In a SBK, part of the petrol is utilised in "fueling the ego" , hence the low mileage.
On a more serious note - the acceleration reduces the average . Sedate driving returns an average of about 19 kmpl on my 1000 cc and on the 650 cc gives an average of 25 .
Besides, when astride a big bike, the concern is not average or the number of times one visits the petrol pump is it ?

[manson]

where as on the other hand , a 1000 cc car has a weight of close to 1000 kilos..yet the bike manages to give a slightly similar mileage. Y is this ? i expected a sbK to give a mileage of at least close to 30 ... honestly.. !! AND is this topic already discussed ?

1. To begin with basic numbers: 1000 cc hatchback, 65-70 Bhp odd, whilst an average liter class bike is upwards of 160-170 Bhp, now the BMW rated at 193 Bhp.

2. Mostly, you would find an average big bike owner redline the bike, pull the throttle uselessly (on excusew of warming the motor), etc more often than your four door hatch driver.

3. If ridden at cruising speeds of 100-120 kmph in topmost gear, liter class bikes would yield in the range of 25 kmpl on a long distance trip. Believe it or not, I have seen an indicated 27 kmpl for a few seconds on my 954.

manson.

[ashtorque]

L.e. Sbk

Does anyone know where can one find information about the limited edition bikes? E.g. powersports.honda.com doesnt have information of their L.E.'s. I am particularly interested in looking for information on 2007 fireblade LE. There are loads of pics available on the net but I need official info...

[svjhonda]

i have a question....

why do the fuel efficiency of a SBK so less ?
ok let me get my facts and thoughts straight.

A car engine needs to rev much lesser than a bike engine. You'll see all cors are very conservatively redlined at 9K to 10K rpm. And they are tuned that way to drive easy, and deliver max power at very moderate RPMs.

And the converse is for a street bike. Cramming a 1000cc engine into a chassis and extracting the kind of mind numbing performance needs the engine to be a high revving, and in a higher state of tune.

And a car has all the space in the world for a bigger engine. A Street bike does not. It has to make the best out of what it has.

[Sin^]

2010 r1

Guys 2010 R1 is on display @ yamaha showroom in banglore....MSP motors have displayed a Black r1 and its the only showroom which is displaying a 2010 r1 in whole banglore so if any of u guys wanna check in...hurry up
Just came from the showroom fully satisfied after seeing 1

[Streetfighter]

Yeah I agree. But still doesn't absolve the technician doing the PDI. That is just insane!

Woes with Yamaha - You mean with the servicing aspect? My issue with Ducati wasn't that alone. Either way, I will have to fend for myself with my next bike, but I ended spending a lot less.

Not only servicing; the purchase, the customer satisfaction, etc. They are pretty pathetic here in Mumbai. Honda is way better.

Wish you all the best with the brave move you've made, if it all works out according to plan you've made the right choice for yourself. BTW, another friend bought the 1198S.