General SBK Discussion Thread

[TenHut]

i did not understand any of that video !

lol.

Btw...there is some mention on the first page about CBS failing.
I think we are talking about the "C-ABS" here as I dont know of any system which gets termed as CBS.
Absolutely nothing can go wrong if the C-ABS fails. C-ABS works in the background and kicks in only when the wheels are about to lock up.Once it senses an emergency situation it is essentially braking through brake-by-wire technology. Its not a full electronic system with 1 and 0 as ON and Off for braking. That way if the system failed the rider is fcuked.
Its an hydraulic electronic system where if the system fails it just fails to prevent wheel locking.
So with a failed system u are braking the way you would brake on a non C-ABS equipped bike, manually!

[riot]

so speed or xtrapremium also works fine and doesn't kill the engine. a few other things i wanted to know-

1. can a person of height 5 feet 5 inch (me :P) ride a superbike? (i can somehow manage to touch my feet to the ground on my Pulsar 220. can i even dream of a sbk?)

Ofcourse u can ride ANY bike out there. All that matters is confidence. I believe as long as u can touch even one toe on the floor, u can ride that bike. I am 5`4ish and 50ish Kgs and i too ride a 200, One thing i learnt tough my experience is those people who say u need to put both feet flat on ground to ride a bike say that because THEY cant ride without it.

Know abut dani pedrosa? Hez just 5`4 and he rides one of the fastest and the most advanced bikes known to humans the Honda RC 212v. We can atleast ride a S1000RR , cant we ?

[sheelpriye]

from ash's blade thread

First of all, lap times don't fall by 5-10 seconds on an average. Please check again.

May i know by how much they do fall?

First of all, I don't think a dog peeing on the road will make much difference in full blown rains.

shall wait for Sumit to answer this
he definitely wasn't referring to quantity of water being added

If you apply the same braking principals which you apply in dry weather, you will be fine. Do you brake while cornering even in dry condition? Do you apply rear brake (now this question has become redundant for your blade) while leaning?

are you serious?

do you brake as hard in rains as you do in dry in any freaking motorcycle?

[sheelpriye]

Having ridden these big bikes at the track at a decent pace ( Check my philip island thread) in the dry and wet I can assure you that there is absolutely no way in hell that you will be able to ride at the same pace in the wet as you do in the dry on the same tyres. If you ever have a look and feel of full wet weather grooved tyres you will be able to tell how soft they are. Their maximum temperature is 55degress compared to 80 odd degrees of full slicks. both tyres are completely different.

I have also commuted in the rain on the zx10 and as long as you are careful and have some common sense its not too bad. You just have to be careful braking and be very weary of your throttle hand. Also paint on roads is extremely slippery and so is the mud and other stuff in india. The concrete roads in india are also completely different to the bitumen roads here that have more grip.

Ill also be over in india for a few months from june, so if you want some tips and pointers for cornering , Ill be happly to help out.

cheers

copied and posted from ash's thread,

post the hoopla of riding in wet dies down, i have an equally interesting thing to discuss

[csgup1]

Sorry to hijack this thread but unfortunately thats not the case fireblah. What you have is an incredible piece of machinery that can vastly improve your riding if you want. You can practise each on the many different elements of riding everytime you get on the bike.

Again Im talking from experience. I rode for a solid year and a bit and I thought I could ride alright till I came off for the first time.Then I realised I didnt know much about riding at all. I asked a few more experienced guys to teach me how to corner, about throttle control, braking properly. I learnt more in one day that I did in the entire year making me a safer rider. I still go out and look for better riders so I can learn from them as much as I can.

Knowing the road helps a lot but smooth throttle control, looking through the corner, body position, finding good lines, counter steering, and braking is something you can practise on all corners even if you dont know them.

[TenHut]

How comfy you are in wet weather depends on how comfy you feel and not related to the bike you are riding.

lol...ofcourse it depends on the bike you are riding..
I wont give a rats ass about riding a 100cc in wet conditions for the first time ever in life ( first time meanin I wont be comfy on it at all).

If you are afraid about falling from a CD100, you will obviously be afraid about falling from a SBK.

So its that easy eh ? Easier said than done !

Secondly, riding with steady inputs in a progressive manner is applicable to all kinds of riding in all weather.

NO ! You can afford to have aggressive (not progressive) inputs in good dry conditions.
In wet if you are not easy on inputs you are toast in 2 mins.

First of all, I don't think a dog peeing on the road will make much difference in full blown rains.

In the MID of the road. If the dog is peeing in the mid of the road it isnt his pee which is my worry lol...its the whole freakin dog in the MID of the road. His pee wont make me skid lol..

If you apply the same braking principals which you apply in dry weather, you will be fine.

Even if i buy your point it only sorts my braking issues. I have tons of other issues in wet..like throttle control and lean angle issues...applying same principles which i apply in dry weather to these issues is suicide.


P.S. Sheelpriye..i hope u aint thinking I am called Sumit !

[sheelpriye]

P.S. Sheelpriye..i hope u aint thinking I am called Sumit !

Oops! it seems i was so engrossed in reading your CSS report that i forgot your name

[diffuser911]

I am looking for the contact details for a bike importer. If anyone has any idea about a reliable and honest guy in the business, do post them here. I am currently in Bahrain and am thinking of bringing a bike on ownership basis.

[s_and_m]

^^ I would also like to know what the procedure etc is .. and whether the bike will be any cheaper than through the usual method of getting it through a certified dealer (like for Yam, Honda, Suzuki etc)

[nand15]

Hi guys , I have a question ... Is there any procedure by means of which you can make a grey import bike legal ? If yes then may I know how ? If it has already been discussed then let me know . i didn't search the thread before asking ...

I ask this because a person at the end of my lane owns a blue R1 07 or 08 i'm not sure , but I have been watchin that house for a couple of years now ,( for obvious reasons ) but that bike hasn't moved an inch ... he does also own couple of FZ's and a royal enfield , maybe a case of aplenty , but if it is possible and he is willing , I would like to make an offer for it ...

[TenHut]

Hi guys , I have a question ... Is there any procedure by means of which you can make a grey import bike legal ?

Not anymore !

I know my answer is being vague but if I were to answer in a detailed manner it would take me 20 pages.
Bottom line is that you should not even try to make grey legal anymore !
3 times the cost of the bike is what the penalty is and u dont even get to keep the bike haha..
earlier u could keep the bike under provisional ownership and stuff.

[raman sriharsha]

I am looking for the contact details for a bike importer. If anyone has any idea about a reliable and honest guy in the business, do post them here. I am currently in Bahrain and am thinking of bringing a bike on ownership basis.

Rules and Regulations for Importing Bikes in India - Guidelines for Importing Bikes in India - Procedure For Importing motorcycles in India

chck the given link hope it will help you

[nand15]

Not anymore !

I know my answer is being vague but if I were to answer in a detailed manner it would take me 20 pages.
Bottom line is that you should not even try to make grey legal anymore !
3 times the cost of the bike is what the penalty is and u dont even get to keep the bike haha..
earlier u could keep the bike under provisional ownership and stuff.

oh okay then !

[sunnykapoor2003]

[QUOTE=nand15;440153]Hi guys , I have a question ... Is there any procedure by means of which you can make a grey import bike legal ?
yes you can but a very big amont involve in that

[s_and_m]

^^ Thanks for the info.