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  • Ri$hi
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    Originally posted by psr View Post
    To charge a Lead Acid battery at home you need a Lead Acid battery charger...If you are into Electronic DIY I can post a dedicated charger circuit,which you can build yourself.
    Originally posted by Above_All View Post
    Yes you can , you need a DC 12/13 volt power supply . I made one myself with 12-0-12 X'former , 2 diodes & 1 capacitor .
    Can You guys share some info about how to make one at home?

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  • Above_All
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    Originally posted by psr View Post
    HH Karizma, ZMR, Bajaj KB 100 , RX100..etc.,...
    and of course all cars have metal frame mounting for the battery.
    Originally posted by Ri$hi View Post
    I own RX100 myself, I don't think it has metal compartment, not sure if the previous owner has done some mods or not. Anyway its a good question its something for us to think about
    Splendor , Passion , Max 100R have plastic / fiber battery cage , Karizma , ZMR , Pulsar have iron battery cage , Scooty ES have iron cage & inside it a plastic base for battery .

    It doesn't matter where you place battery , it won't get discharged by it . No reason for that speaking technically , just think about inverter batteries we keep it at corners on floor & in banks , big shops having more no. of batteries they make special iron stands for them , that won't affect their performance .

    Originally posted by Ri$hi
    Even though the compartment is made of iron, the tyres are of rubber so the earthing won't happen. Don't laugh by reading this
    LOL is bike always stands on tires without support of stand which is made up of ........ ?

    Originally posted by Ri$hi
    Can we charge the battery at home? If yes, what all things do we need to do that?
    Yes you can , you need a DC 12/13 volt power supply . I made one myself with 12-0-12 X'former , 2 diodes & 1 capacitor .

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  • psr
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    Originally posted by Ri$hi View Post
    I own RX100 myself, I don't think it has metal compartment, not sure if the previous owner has done some mods or not. Anyway its a good question its something for us to think about
    May be...I owned a RX100 way back in 86/87 and I remember having corrosion problem with the battery box when the SVC overfilled the Electrolyte.

    Originally posted by Ri$hi
    Even though the compartment is made of iron, the tyres are of rubber so the earthing won't happen. Don't laugh by reading this
    As a qualified Electronic Engineer i can assure you that the tire made of rubber does not matter. For the battery to discharge, there needs to be a flow of Electrons between the Terminals...If a potential strong enough to react to positive or negative of the battery exists ,it is in the battery itself, at close space,...and what exists on earth is not strong enough to discharge a battery.

    Originally posted by Ri$hi
    Can we charge the battery at home? If yes, what all things do we need to do that?
    To charge a Lead Acid battery at home you need a Lead Acid battery charger...If you are into Electronic DIY I can post a dedicated charger circuit,which you can build yourself.

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  • Ri$hi
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    Originally posted by psr View Post
    HH Karizma, ZMR, Bajaj KB 100 , RX100..etc.,...
    and of course all cars have metal frame mounting for the battery.
    I own RX100 myself, I don't think it has metal compartment, not sure if the previous owner has done some mods or not. Anyway its a good question its something for us to think about

    Even though the compartment is made of iron, the tyres are of rubber so the earthing won't happen. Don't laugh by reading this

    Can we charge the battery at home? If yes, what all things do we need to do that?
    Last edited by sunilg; 01-14-2012, 11:33 AM.

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  • psr
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    Originally posted by Ri$hi View Post
    Most of the bike comes with a plastic compartment for the battery, not sure what bike are you talking about
    HH Karizma, ZMR, Bajaj KB 100 , RX100..etc.,...
    and of course all cars have metal frame mounting for the battery.
    Last edited by psr; 01-13-2012, 01:34 PM.

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  • Ri$hi
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    Originally posted by psr View Post
    I don't believe in this, since the very place the battery sits in all vehicle is on a metal frame
    Most of the bike comes with a plastic compartment for the battery, not sure what bike are you talking about

    Originally posted by psr View Post
    cleaning of any battery terminal can be done AWAY from it's mounting area
    Yes, very correctly said, it would be a mess if we do this from the mounting area. But if we take good care of the battery, there would be no sign of corrosion. Covering the terminals with vaseline will do the task.

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  • psr
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    @ Ri$hi....Technically correct and useful posts, and i wish to add a few things I had learnt in time.
    1. Disconnecting the negative terminal as said is the" Correct" way. If you see the + ve terminal of most vehicles the terminal will have thicker wire,and more than one wire getting attached..so it will be more stiff and will be difficult to remove cleanly without touching body...while a -ve terminal is connected to body and accidental touching of the terminal connection to body will not cause any problem,irrespective of the tool used for removal.
    With negative terminal disconnected even if the +ve terminal touches the body there will be no short circuiting or sparks..since the - ve circuit is broken.

    2. I had heard many times from battery guys that keeping the battery on the floor is not good and will lead to discharge,and should be on a wooden support. I don't believe in this, since the very place the battery sits in all vehicle is on a metal frame, and that too held down very tight.

    3. cleaning of any battery terminal can be done AWAY from it's mounting area to avoid spill of corrosive Acid or the deposits on the terminal ,which is equally bad.
    Just my thought

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  • Ri$hi
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    I have few more things to add.

    Green and white ashy substances on and around the terminals and wires are corrosion and must be removed before proceeding. To remove corrosion, mix a solution of baking soda and water and pour over both terminal ends. The mixture will fizz and bubble and this is normal. Repeat this until both terminals look cleaned up. Wipe up mess around the terminals with a paper towel and discard in the trash.
    Be extra careful not to let the positive terminal touch any metal part of the vehicle. When both posts of the battery are free of terminal ends, pour more baking soda mixture on those posts and scrub them with a wire brush until shiny. This will make a good contact and ensure proper starting abilities. Next use a wire brush to clean inside and on top of each terminal end to ensure good contact with posts when placed back on.

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  • Ri$hi
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    Originally posted by I.S.Avinash View Post
    Nice piece of Information Rishi. Very informative and Make sure you use multiple quotes bro while u quote the message
    Thanks Avinash

    Originally posted by princesirohi View Post
    even if negative wire is disconnected first. and then while disconnecting the positive wire, the so called "wrench" may touch metal body part, if it does, there will be fireworks.

    btw, nobody uses a wrench to remove battery wire, a screw driver is sufficient, and it has plastic cover at back.
    Most of us do not have easy access to the philips screw driver, so we might use a normal screw driver, I myself use a spanner as the slot in the screw got damaged by using a normal screw driver

    Originally posted by princesirohi View Post
    so.... what..?? power will be disconnected from the system even if you remove +ve wire first.
    This is the right procedure to disconnect the terminals, most of the mechanics also don't follow this. Most of the mechanics don't go through a professional training and education regarding the bike maintenance and repair. They only learn through their experience and keep doing the same mistakes what their gurus do, they don't change unless they have a bad experience. As a rider we need to follow all the safety measures while riding and while dealing with minor repairs.

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  • princesirohi
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    Originally posted by Ri$hi View Post
    @princesirohi:
    By disconnecting the negative battery cable, you remove the "ground," shutting off power to your system


    so.... what..?? power will be disconnected from the system even if you remove +ve wire first

    Wood and plastic are bad conductor of electricity it won't let the battery to discharge unlike the concrete

    this is news to me
    • that concrete is a good conductor of electricity
    • and battery gets discharged, just by keeping on concrete.


    Originally posted by Ri$hi View Post
    It is a safety issue. The reason is that when you are using a wrench to disconnect the battery cable you can easily touch a portion of the vehicle that is grounded. If you were disconnecting the positive + cable first and you accidently touch a metal part the vehicle you will create a massive short circuit with the fireworks involved. The wrench in your hand will become an arc welder. By disconnecting the negative - cable first there is no danger of this happening as touching a metal part of the vehicle will do nothing as you are already working with the ground. Always disconnect the ground cable first and then you can move to the positive cable without worries.

    even if negative wire is disconnected first. and then while disconnecting the positive wire, the so called "wrench" may touch metal body part, if it does, there will be fireworks.

    btw, nobody uses a wrench to remove battery wire, a screw driver is sufficient, and it has plastic cover at back.

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  • I.S.Avinash
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    Nice piece of Information Rishi. Very informative

    and Make sure you use multiple quotes bro while u quote the message

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  • Ri$hi
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    It is a safety issue. The reason is that when you are using a wrench to disconnect the battery cable you can easily touch a portion of the vehicle that is grounded. If you were disconnecting the positive + cable first and you accidently touch a metal part the vehicle you will create a massive short circuit with the fireworks involved. The wrench in your hand will become an arc welder. By disconnecting the negative - cable first there is no danger of this happening as touching a metal part of the vehicle will do nothing as you are already working with the ground. Always disconnect the ground cable first and then you can move to the positive cable without worries.

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  • Ri$hi
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    @princesirohi:
    By disconnecting the negative battery cable, you remove the "ground," shutting off power to your system

    Wood and plastic are bad conductor of electricity it won't let the battery to discharge unlike the concrete

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  • Ri$hi
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    Originally posted by sunilg View Post
    Topic approved and moved.
    Thanks for the approval sunil

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  • princesirohi
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    Originally posted by Ri$hi View Post
    1. Disconnect the negative terminal first and then the positive terminal.

    what is the reason for this

    3. Do not Place the battery on concrete surface as this will cause the battery to discharge, wooden surface is more preferable.

    again can you provide a reason for this.
    also it is very important that never let your battery be deep discharged.

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