Well, now that I don't have to worry about dragging the thread off-topic, I don't have to hold back.

1) Ok, probably true. But that would pretty much put the bikes in different categories.

2) If you want that, you can buy a scooter for half the cost of the NS, and get better mileage too.

3) The NS looks very similar to *every* other bike on the road here, so if the ordinary is ok for you, then the NS is your bike.

4) So far, most have reported the pillion to be better than the FZ, which I have sat on several times myself, and found adequate, so the Duke can't be that bad.

5) Which is why the many-times-champion Ducati superbikes use perimeter frames. Oh wait...

6) Again, why not go all the way and buy a scooter or a CT100? Then the spares will be cheaper yet. Spares aren't that cheap for the superbikes either.

7) Nonsense. FI bikes can be pushstarted just like a carb. The engine's alternator provides power to the injector as it spins. It might take a couple more pushes, but it works even on the big bikes.

8) Doubtful. Most reports of the Duke being peaky are the result of nearly-new bikes. Once the motor has been broken in, it'll be much smoother, and quite suitable to longer rides (Even my old GSXR was tolerable for a couple of hours before it would put my hands to sleep from the vibes).


And a quick note on Mr. Payeng's article. First, a lot of the article is based directly on Bajaj's own marketing stuff, so of course they're going to say it's the most innovating thing since sliced bread. Find some independent confirmation. Second, what isn't marketing is Mr. Payeng's own assumptions about the bike, based on no evidence at all. Sorry to put it bluntly, but there it is.


Lastly, one quick note on spares. Somewhere someone noted that the NS's silencer costs about 3000 to replace, where the Duke costs 9000, due to the Duke having an expensive catalytic converter, where the NS needs only a small converter. Unfortunately, the cost difference there is so great that I am forced to wonder if the parts are comparable. To my eye, that looks a lot more like the cost to replace the entire Duke exhaust from the engine on back, while the NS cost is for the silencer alone, excluding the exhaust pipe and catalytic converter. I would want to see confirmation that the replacement items encompass the same components. Additionally, the NS uses a painted mild-steel exhaust and silencer, where the Duke uses a full stainless system; that alone is going to cause a wide price differential, eclipsing any cost inequality due to the cat size.

Atleast i am glad to see that pulsar is now being compared with duke...earlier it was compared with apache, hunk, cbz etc... this alone shows that pulsars have improved... but i expected more improvements and A PROPER HANDLEBAR

Ya right, because someone can't afford a Duke so they go for 200NS. And because someone can't afford a CBR250 so they go for Duke, and then none of us can afford a car so we go for bikes.. What logic! Nonne points are misleading here BTW.


Rightly said, Aptly put!

Well said !!

Makes a lot of sense without single doubt of confusion!!
I am looking forward for duke!!

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All these days we used to get imported bikes from other country and we used to be charged more than double. Now its payback time for india Hope KTM starts to manufacture super bikes of KTM in India.

Perfectly put.

Pulsar vs ktm is chalk vs cheese or apples vs oranges. Though both bikes are naked, both have same engine bases and both are manufactured by bajaj. Thats where the similarity ends. I am a duke 200 owner and have ridden pulsar also.so heres my take.hope it helps to prospective buyers.
Well if you ride with a pillion then go for the ns.really comfortable rear seat.
If you are for biking, fun, thrill then go for the duke. But yeah your pillion will be shit scared because of the neck jerking acceleration and will also cuss you in monsoons.But you can mod the seat always.
Ns is a silent performer.will reach 100 and more without grabbing attention.gradual linear acceleration all the way.duke is a street scorcher.It announces your arrival even at 40kmph.at anything above 6000 rpm, people are watching you.attention seeker- you bet. I still get looks and questions from passerbys even after owning duke for 3 months now. Pulsar will fade away slowly coz there are many many people opting for it.Its a good thing to be common, so is to be exclusive.spares of both bikes are cheap.very very cheap. My duke is giving me a mileage of 30-42. Pulsar guys are also quoting in same range. So basically it boils down to your needs and your budget. Duke is outright fun while pulsar is mature/silent killer.
.both are very good bikes with a different target group so please dont start fighting here as to which bike is best.Feel free to post any queries w.r.t pulsar or duke here.will be glad to answer

Well what can I say, this thread is a tribute to Bajaj. They co-developed & manufacturing Duke 200 and developed P200NS in-house and in this thread people are debating P200NS vs Duke200. Understandably so I think these are the two best street bikes in the country at the moment. I don't think anyone will disagree to that.

Coming to which one depends on what's your requirement. From various reviews, there are no significant -ves on Duke 200. People could only point out tiny pillion seat & low fuel tank capacity. P200NS got equally good reviews which covers even the above mentioned tiny -ves of Duke. But remember Duke 200 has premium equipment on offer FI, USD front suspension, good tires, aluminium swing arm. When you actually look at the equipment on offer even Duke 200 is good vfm. So, I will not buy the logic that P200NS is more vfm over Duke 200. Both are equally VFM. I feel one needs to ride these bikes to understand which one suits them.

As far as the arguments on triple spark technology goes, there is a good article on Payeng's blog. Please go read it.

This above post is totally misleading, My answers in blue font. There isn't one strong point where the P200NS takes down the Duke 200. (Cost isn't all, coz a CBR150 retails at 1.3+ lacs and we all know whats in it and why its priced that way)

As like someone said earlier, if you cannot afford for a Duke pick the NS. This is the same strategy Bajaj follows from the times of Ninja 250. P200NS is a lower priced variant of Duke 200 with some technology removed and different component quality (means mostly all P200NS parts are sourced locally)

@extremerocker, what pacifies you, a jaadu ki jhappi????
@mods - guess you found the correct person....

Differentiation comes only when you buy a bike that one in a lakh can buy, and not when tens of people right around your society buy.
Having said that, I am not advocating the concept of showing the 'difference' or something on the basis of buying a bike that others cannot.

+1.
We should be matured enough to ignore the odd 'incitement attempts' and snide remarks about us/our bikes

I have been telling this to people buddy but this is a notion with some. I had told in the past that most people who will be willing to spend a lakh on NS wont become bankrupted shelling out another 0.4 lakhs. Still, some dudes either want to justify their choice or somehow want to prove that they are an elite and a unique lot. Result is - telling people owning (or going to own) any other bike- NS or whatever - 'you are buying another bike cuz you cannot buy duke'. . Funny, but true.

It might not look much different if a Ninja owner will come here and say - 'you buying a duke or a pulsar etc. cuz you cant buy a Ninja' and then an R6 or an R1 owner will say something similar to a Ninja owner.

Why again? Why do you make such illogical conclusions?

200NS are two different bikes with different character. There are many people, who find NS more appealing over Duke. Duke is the worth money, but there are many reasons why people will prefer NS over duke.