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**aargee** · 10-16-2012, 09:55 AM

Originally posted by kidpikoon View Post

So the bike just does not go over 8500... The max it goes is 8700 depending on the external conditions...

Really? This is news to me!!!

1. I thought the bike does 135-136 Kmph at 8500 RPM in 6th gear; are you talking about stock or modded CBR that does 145 Kmph in 8500 RPM?
2. Also, how & where did you test that the bike does not go beyond 8700 RPM? Was it a defective CBR 250R?

Originally posted by kidpikoon View Post

The top speed does not have a limiter, but when u limit the rpm, u also limit the speed, as they r always proportional...

I'm terribly confused!!! You're saying the top speed does not have a revlimiter, but then you're saying the bike doesn't go beyond 8700 RPM; I'm seeing two contradictory statements or just me?

Can you explain this pls?

Originally posted by kidpikoon View Post

And the ECU on the CBR250R is hard coded so cant be ReMaped (I guess), so it needs to be changed with a custom one...

Hard coded huh? So what that custom one might be like? Any thoughts?

**somen1984** · 10-16-2012, 11:33 AM

Originally posted by aargee View Post

You mean in 6th gear or anything lesser? And what is this ECU limiter thing? Pls explain.

Wow; how can one do this? Can you educate pls?

Aargee He is the new Boy in town aka Tuner !!! lol...

@Kid*: Aargee is the one who has immense knowledge on CBR 250 and other bikes too!! See his signatures, all written by himself with few by others too.
So, answer it with good source and knowledge!!

Originally posted by Ezilkannan View Post

I guess he meant the revlimiter. You can do an ECU remap to increase your revlimits for getting higher top speed. But I would tell you to stay away from it until you have a decent reading on the odo. Don't do it on a new bike.

lol.... you are advicing Aargee!!! Really funny!!! check his signature you won't need any advice by any one on CBR Stuff!!

Originally posted by Jay Tanwar View Post

I have done 155kmph (approx 9k+ rpm) on ECR, chennai to be specefic on my stock blade. No mods at all (except for removing saree gaurd :P)

Even i have heard and seen youtube for CBR 150kmph +, but don't know it's mod or stock!! But N250 surely does 160kmph in stock!!

**kidpikoon** · 10-16-2012, 05:39 PM

Some links to support that m saying...

Honda CBR250R gets a new race kit

API Tech Ecu installed! - Honda CBR250R Forum : Honda CBR 250 Forums

CBR250R ECU performance Hack - ECU hacking (I havent read this one completely)

I dont know what u guys are saying about the Top End...

But u agree that the ECU is limiting the Revs to 9k and removing that will increase the speed, right ???

In the Racekit link :

The race prepped bike come with a fully customizable ECU with multiple pre-loaded maps. These ignition algorithms can be toggled with the bike in action and you on board in the thick of things. The bike is equipped with a transmission quick shifter, and a pit lane rev limiter.

What does this mean according to u ???

**aargee** · 10-16-2012, 05:49 PM

Originally posted by kidpikoon View Post

Some links to support that m saying...

Please...DO NOT divert the topic; all I'm seeking is clarification on these 2 points that you've said...

Originally posted by kidpikoon View Post

Where as the CBR reached 145 at around 8,500 rpm (Limited to 153 by ECU)...

Does this mean, at 6th gear CBR 250R does 145 Kmph? Or the top speed of CBR 250R is only 153 because it is limited by ECU or revlimiter?

Originally posted by kidpikoon View Post

So if u were to change its ECU in the future, u can expect 160+ speeds at 10,000 rmp and even more if u go to its red line...

Are you saying if the ECU is changed, the bike does 160 Kmph at 10000 RPM (considering the fact at 8500 RPM it does only 145 Kmph as per you)

Originally posted by kidpikoon View Post

I dont know what u guys are saying about the Top End...

We're seeking clarification from you when you said revlimiter works so that the speed is restricted to 153 Kmph

Originally posted by kidpikoon View Post

But u agree that the ECU is limiting the Revs to 9k and removing that will increase the speed, right ???

I don't think any CBR 250R would agree that ECU is limiting the rev to 9K

**kidpikoon** · 10-16-2012, 06:11 PM

Originally posted by aargee View Post

Please...DO NOT divert the topic; all I'm seeking is clarification on these 2 points that you've said...

Does this mean, at 6th gear CBR 250R does 145 Kmph? Or the top speed of CBR 250R is only 153 because it is limited by ECU or revlimiter?

Are you saying if the ECU is changed, the bike does 160 Kmph at 10000 RPM (considering the fact at 8500 RPM it does only 145 Kmph as per you)

We're seeking clarification from you when you said revlimiter works so that the speed is restricted to 153 Kmph

I don't think any CBR 250R would agree that ECU is limiting the rev to 9K

I am saying Only the Rev is limited at around 9k...
The speed is not limited to anything, but as u posted in ur FAQ, rpm/100*1.6= speed
The speed will also get limited according to this calculation...

I am talking only about the 6th Gear, till 5th gear u can go to 12k rpm no prob...

Tell me this:
Does ur CBR250R go above 10k rpm on the 6th gear ???
Dont u feel the sudden stop in acceleration at 8.5k rpm ???

Edit: U will agree with this: Reaching 145 from ~100kmph takes more time on the 6th Gear, that it takes on the 5th Gear, Cause the acceleration remains uniform on 5th Gear till 12k rpm, whereas it decreases suddenly at 8.5k rmp on the 6th Gear
ie. if u r at 135 Kmph on 6th Gear and u want to reach to 147
Tell me will u reach from 135-147 faster in the 6th Gear, or will u reach faster if u downshift to the 5th Gear ???

**aargee** · 10-16-2012, 06:19 PM

My friend...time to clear a few things...

Originally posted by kidpikoon View Post

I am saying Only the Rev is limited at around 9k...

Whoever told you this, has given absolute nonsense information; the rev limiter works at 10500 RPM

Originally posted by kidpikoon View Post

The speed is not limited to anything, but as u posted in ur FAQ, rpm/100*1.6= speed

Yes, but not to the extend of 145 Kmph at 8500 RPM; at 8500 RPM...
8500/100 X 1.6 = 136 Kmph (~135 - 137 Kmph depending on the road)

Originally posted by kidpikoon View Post

The speed will also get limited according to this calculation...

Yes

Originally posted by kidpikoon View Post

I am talking only about the 6th Gear, till 5th gear u can go to 12k rpm no prob...

Again, someone keeps teaching you crap for no reason; 12K RPM on stock CBR 250R is NOT POSSIBLE

Originally posted by kidpikoon View Post

Does ur CBR250R go above 10k rpm on the 6th gear ???

May be & No;
May be - On downward gradient, which I have not tried
No - On a straight (clean flat) road, it doesn't

Originally posted by kidpikoon View Post

Dont u feel the sudden stop in acceleration at 8.5k rpm ???

No

Regarding the edit part, I seldom doubt anyone has disputes, moreover we never started talking anything on those lines.

**kidpikoon** · 10-16-2012, 06:34 PM

Originally posted by aargee View Post

Again, someone keeps teaching you crap for no reason; 12K RPM on stock CBR 250R is NOT POSSIBLE

My info cannot be exact in numbers since I have a Leo Vince Cobra Exhaust and a K&N Filter...

But mine used to reach 12k rmp at each gear even before the upgrades... (Except on 6th Gear)

**aargee** · 10-16-2012, 06:54 PM

Originally posted by kidpikoon View Post

My info cannot be exact in numbers since I have a Leo Vince Cobra Exhaust and a K&N Filter...

Ok, so what're you numbers at 6th gear? Can you provide them?

Originally posted by kidpikoon View Post

But mine used to reach 12k rmp at each gear even before the upgrades... (Except on 6th Gear)

Quite strange!!! Hearing for first time that, installing a FFE & K&N will have an adverse effect on revlimiter

Wondering if that is the reason why the bike does 145 Kmph at 8500 RPM too

We're missing gopakumar at the moment, who had Akro, we've spoken several times, but he never said installing the FFE was anything superior over stock & as a matter of fact you must be knowing Akro claims 10% increase over the stock with their header, the highest for C250R at the moment. I'm still wondering how the revlimiter kicks as 12K instead of 10.5K

You made me loose sleep

BTW, care to explain this please, especially when your C250R does 12K RPM? What made you say so?

Originally posted by kidpikoon View Post

So the bike just does not go over 8500... The max it goes is 8700 depending on the external conditions...

**kidpikoon** · 10-16-2012, 07:01 PM

Originally posted by aargee View Post

Ok, so what're you numbers at 6th gear? Can you provide them?

Quite strange!!! Hearing for first time that, installing a FFE & K&N will have an adverse effect on revlimiter

Wondering if that is the reason why the bike does 145 Kmph at 8500 RPM too

We're missing gopakumar at the moment, who had Akro, we've spoken several times, but he never said installing the FFE was anything superior over stock & as a matter of fact you must be knowing Akro claims 10% increase over the stock with their header, the highest for C250R at the moment. I'm still wondering how the revlimiter kicks as 12K instead of 10.5K

You made me loose sleep

BTW, care to explain this please, especially when your C250R does 12K RPM? What made you say so?

This tread is filling up with info the OP is not seeking for...
Maybe we should discuss this in some other thread...

Ill Try n make a video to show u...
Any idea how I can record my speeds with a normal digicam or my mobile ???

**aargee** · 10-16-2012, 07:08 PM

Originally posted by kidpikoon View Post

This tread is filling up with info the OP is not seeking for...
Maybe we should discuss this in some other thread...

+1; do you think the below is any better?

Originally posted by kidpikoon View Post

Ill Try n make a video to show u...
Any idea how I can record my speeds with a normal digicam or my mobile ???

**Eshan-P180** · 10-16-2012, 07:13 PM

Originally posted by kidpikoon View Post

This tread is filling up with info the OP is not seeking for...
Maybe we should discuss this in some other thread...

Ill Try n make a video to show u...
Any idea how I can record my speeds with a normal digicam or my mobile ???

This is where you need to put a full stop i think. Does that mean you gonna ride at 145kmph, endanger your life and others on the road and then go ahead prove others wrong or right. I mean seriously, there is actually no need for you to do that. Fine Aargee is wrong or may be you are wrong but seriously stop this thing now. This is not what Xbhp is for guys, fine CBR does or 100kmph or 145kmph, understand its a machine and has limitations some or the other way round, just accept it see and if you are satisfied with it, if its not then look somewhere else.

Aargee you are senior here, just suggesting you to take it down so that there are no test runs done, and lifes are not put in trouble.

Where does this talk head guys, with a member trying to make speed runs just to prove his point. Its his money and his requirement, if he is not happy with certain figures fine, leave it, dont force it down his throat. Chill it off guys.

**aargee** · 10-16-2012, 07:27 PM

Originally posted by Eshan-P180 View Post

Aargee you are senior here, just suggesting you to take it down so that there are no test runs done, and lifes are not put in trouble

Pls don't talk without facts; I didn't ask him to do anything, it is out of his own will he's trying to do something & I cannot ride all way from Chennai to stop that!!! Pls ask him to do instead of pointing me for anything & everything!!! And there's nothing to take it up or down here; I was interested to learn what he knew that I don't.

On a lighter note, pls tell that in every saddlesore attempt thread done here, that would be really nice concern

**aargee** · 10-16-2012, 07:39 PM

Originally posted by Eshan-P180 View Post

He might not have brains but you do right?

Why? If I don't have one, are you planning to become an organ donor or what?

Originally posted by Eshan-P180 View Post

but Kidkipoon making a postof having speed runs that attracted my attention and so for his good and others i posted

So you quote him, why tell me? Go & preach that to people out there attempting Saddlesore

**somen1984** · 10-16-2012, 07:58 PM

Originally posted by kidpikoon View Post

Ill Try n make a video to show u...
Any idea how I can record my speeds with a normal digicam or my mobile ???

This is Super CRAP !!!! You are a really Nut Dude!! YOur attempt will make YOutube richer by clicks rather than you or any one here!!

You own a 2L machine so please eat some Kaju kismiss daily to sharpen your brain too...don't waste your hard earn Harnets babies moeny in meidcal bills or CBR update!!

Are you single or your parents have other childrens too ??? ROFL...LOL...

NEver try such kind of attempts.... ABS is not Bhrama's given vardan to you !!!

Originally posted by Eshan-P180 View Post

Aargee you are senior here, just suggesting you to take it down so that there are no test runs done, and lifes are not put in trouble.

What made you write such statements Dude!!
This is a healthy discussion and no member will suport any kind of racing or TOp End attempts here just to prove lines what they write!!

And one more thing i guess you should directly write it to KIdpiKoon then other here, becuase others are just correcting his myth nothing else!!

Originally posted by Eshan-P180 View Post

@ Aargee
He might not have brains but you do right? ..... but Kidkipoon making a postof having speed runs that attracted my attention and so for his good and others i posted.

Sincerely sorry Aargee Sir, I dint knew you require to own a respective bike to post in discussion which might just endanger someones life just for proving others right or wrong.
.

He has brains and unmature nature!! nothing else...

But we will surely not encourage any one doing Speed run to prove their points!!!

Eshan You are too sensible so this could have been written in different manner too rather than pointing out one senior knowledgable person here.
KidPiKoon is our friend and all xbhpians too, so any non sense attempts won't be tolerable.

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