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  • IOC mixing new chemicals in petrol to clear stock.Whats happening?

    Hi xbhpians...

    My dad owns a gas station on NH 744..This IOC bunk is the first one in kerala after crossing the check post from TN.. Located near to Thenmala eco tourism.. We get the load from IRUMPANAM terminal in Kochi...
    Last night when our tanker came i was observing the challan/receipt & I happened to notice that something was new which i never observed in the past few years.. Normally the petrol we get is the Motor Spirit ( MS) BS III which is easily understood...Only selected cities in India get MS BS IV. But yesterday it was written 5% ETH. BLN. MS(0.015% SU. 1% BEN.)BS III.

    Upon asking tanker driver, he told IOC is clearing some ETHANOL in stock by mixing in 5%. He knew only that much. I was happy that atleast he knew that much. But whats going on? Is it only with IOC? what about BPCL, HPCL? what are these chemicals? Need answers from chemical cum mechanical engineer, i guess.
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  • #2
    Topic Moved to GBD section.

    You sure it was not some premium petrol or something with a different composition?
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    • #3
      ETH is ethanol, but what are -- SU & BEN..??
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        • #5
          BEN is probably benzene a very popular organic chemical of 6 carbon 6 hydrogen atoms with 3 single and 3 double carbon carbon bonds
          benzene increases octane rating

          SU might be some sulfur compound
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          • #6
            Isn't BS3&4 fuel the same?

            IOC's Maharastra's office have told me the fuel is the same 91 RON for bs3 and 4.

            Looks like an ethanol blend @ 5% is standard in many places globally and conforms to BS3 specs.
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            • #7
              5% mandatory bio-petrol on cards to cut fuel import bill - Times Of India

              NEW DELHI: The government will soon move for mandatory blending of petrol with ethanol (EBP), pegging the target at 5%, in what could be a first step towards reducing the escalating fuel import bill.

              The move for mandatory EBP would overrule the recommendation of PM's economic advisory council (PMEAC) that blending be kept optional to deal with fickle supply of the bio-fuel.


              Such a decision would put India in the select band of countries with mandatory bio-petrol. India has struggled to get petrol blending off the ground, despite a Union Cabinet decision in 2010.

              Seeking to kick-start the frozen policy objective, the PMEAC had recommended that uncertainty over availability of ethanol could be dealt by making EBP optional — the oil marketing companies could be given the choice to have higher targets when ethanol supply is bountiful and lower in an adverse year.

              However, the new and renewable energy ministry has moved a Cabinet note recommending that EBP should be mandatory with 5% target for oil companies. It said PMEAC's optional EBP should not be considered.

              Fuel blending has been suggested as silver bullet to India's elusive search for a sort of antidote to huge oil imports, which render economy hostage to price volatility in international markets. It is also seen as a long-term solution to reducing dependence on fossil fuel while increasing the energy efficiency of the fuel.

              The crux of the fresh start over EBP — in the form of Cabinet proposal — is the intractable issue of pricing of ethanol.

              Now, the renewable ministry has left it to the Union Cabinet to pick between the formula proposed by the Saumitra Chaudhuri committee and PMEAC's recommendation that price be left to market forces.

              Chaudhuri panel's suggestions peg ethanol at Rs 27 per litre with a floor price of Rs 23 and a ceiling price of Rs 31.

              The renewed push to EBP has already hit a rough patch, with chemicals and fertilizers ministry flagging its concern that mandatory EBP would hit the chemicals industry hard.

              In a dissent note, the Union chemicals ministry has argued that 5% EBP would require 105 crore litres of ethanol annually, even though oil companies could procure only 36 crore litres last year. It has argued that mandatory EBP would hurt chemicals industry by diverting its share of ethanol to oil companies. Even the PMEAC said that India cannot depend on ethanol's largest producers like Brazil and the US.

              The Cabinet proposal, instead, has recommended that chemical industries ink long-term contracts with ethanol producers for upto 50 crore litre annually.


              The pricing of ethanol has been a politically sensitive issue. While key UPA ministers were seen to push for higher administered price for ethanol so that it improved the earnings of sugar industry, there have been suggestions that the sugar lobby should not be allowed to exploit EBP.

              PMEAC also recommended that ethanol price be determined by commercial processes, and not be aimed at helping out an individual sector (read sugar).




              It would be the norm of the day soon to have Ethanol blended fuel. They would probably meet the emission norms.

              Some links:

              Ethanol-blending can cut fuel bill, say experts - Times Of India

              http://gain.fas.usda.gov/Recent%20GA...a_7-1-2011.pdf
              "
              THIS REPORT CONTAINS ASSESSMENTS OF COMMODITY AND TRADE ISSUES MADE BY USDA STAFF AND NOT NECESSARILY STATEMENTS OF OFFICIAL U.S. GOVERNMENT POLICY
              Date:
              GAIN Report Number:
              Approved By:
              Prepared By:
              Report Highlights: Biofuel production and consumption in India is at its nascent stage and is evolving. The Government of India (GOI) approved the National Policy on Biofuels on December 24, 2009. The policy proposes a target of 20 percent blending of biofuel both for bio-diesel and bio-ethanol by 2017. India‟s biofuel strategy continues to focus on use of non-food resources; namely sugar molasses for production of ethanol and non-edible oils for production of biodiesel. The government‟s current target of 5 percent blending of ethanol in petrol has been partially successful in years of surplus sugar production and unfilled when sugar production declines. Since commercial production of biodiesel in India (through jatropha) is small, large scale blending of biodiesel with conventional diesel has not yet started.
              Amit Aradhey
              Thom Wright
              2011
              Biofuels Annual
              India
              IN1159
              7/1/2011
              Required Report - public distribution"



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              The existing vehicular fleet in the country is compatible with the 5 per cent ethanol-blended petrol. Sufficient lead time would have to be given to the automobile industry to make appropriate engine and other modifications to make vehicles compatible with higher levels of blended fuel."

              Source- from another automobile discussion forum...



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                5% mandatory bio-petrol on cards to cut fuel import bill - Times Of IndiaEthanol-blending can cut fuel bill, say experts - Times Of India

                http://gain.fas.usda.gov/Recent%20GA...a_7-1-2011.pdf
                "
                THIS REPORT CONTAINS ASSESSMENTS OF COMMODITY AND TRADE ISSUES MADE BY USDA STAFF AND NOT NECESSARILY STATEMENTS OF OFFICIAL U.S. GOVERNMENT POLICY
                Date:
                GAIN Report Number:
                Approved By:
                Prepared By:
                Report Highlights: Biofuel production and consumption in India is at its nascent stage and is evolving. The Government of India (GOI) approved the National Policy on Biofuels on December 24, 2009. The policy proposes a target of 20 percent blending of biofuel both for bio-diesel and bio-ethanol by 2017. India‟s biofuel strategy continues to focus on use of non-food resources; namely sugar molasses for production of ethanol and non-edible oils for production of biodiesel. The government‟s current target of 5 percent blending of ethanol in petrol has been partially successful in years of surplus sugar production and unfilled when sugar production declines. Since commercial production of biodiesel in India (through jatropha) is small, large scale blending of biodiesel with conventional diesel has not yet started.
                Amit Aradhey
                Thom Wright
                2011
                Biofuels Annual
                India
                IN1159
                7/1/2011
                Required Report - public distribution"



                "
                The existing vehicular fleet in the country is compatible with the 5 per cent ethanol-blended petrol. Sufficient lead time would have to be given to the automobile industry to make appropriate engine and other modifications to make vehicles compatible with higher levels of blended fuel."

                Source- from another automobile discussion forum...



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