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  • #16
    Re: Bajaj Avenger 220 Vs Pulsar 220

    Originally posted by cruiserboy View Post
    Hello friends wonderful topic,
    i am riding an A220 for 2 years and the only thing i felt not good was the bikes 5th gear does not felt like a 5th gear at all. felt something was restricting it between 80 and 110 kmph. i am not bothered about crossing 110 kmph, just want to know how to make it feel nice between 80 and 110 kmph. if someone could guide us to overcome this difficulty it will be a great help for us (the A220 owners).

    What could be the cost to replace the Head with valves and Camshaft, carb and ignition. does the timing chain need to be changed....and what if i am only changing Head with valves and camshaft.

    Is that Rev limit of A220 is less than that of P220.

    Or any possibility to replace the 5th gear of A220 with P220's to make it some what relaxed than the stock.

    thanks.
    Change sprockets?
    "Vibes transmitted from crank shaft to frame, then through the bearings of the head stock and into the stem where it meets the triple clamp and into the clip-ons where it is greeted with great pleasure by my hands"-ratfighter mod rtr

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    • #17
      Re: Bajaj Avenger 220 Vs Pulsar 220

      Originally posted by albyjose View Post
      Change sprockets?
      I considered it, but it will change the final drive ratio.not so good for the gears 1-4.those are very useful in mountain roads. to compensate sprocketting we need to increase that 1.6 nm lost while detuning the engine by bajaj.
      my point is some thing is restricting it may be the smaller carb or by CDI. while cruising upto 70-75 kmph you wont notice a thing, even with the 4th you can do 60 without any noticeable vibration. but from 80 kmph things are different you can feel some stress.some times you wont feel that gear is changed from 4th to 5th. i dont know whether it is due to the long chain or not. but it is the something that we can change, and it will be beneficial for all avenger 220 riders.
      Last edited by cruiserboy; 10-27-2013, 09:04 PM.

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      • #18
        Re: Bajaj Avenger 220 Vs Pulsar 220

        Originally posted by cruiserboy View Post
        I considered it, but it will change the final drive ratio.not so good for the gears 1-4.those are very useful in mountain roads. to compensate sprocketting we need to increase that 1.6 nm lost while detuning the engine by bajaj.
        my point is some thing is restricting it may be the smaller carb or by CDI. while cruising upto 70-75 kmph you wont notice a thing, even with the 4th you can do 60 without any noticeable vibration. but from 80 kmph things are different you can feel some stress.some times you wont feel that gear is changed from 4th to 5th. i dont know whether it is due to the long chain or not. but it is the something that we can change, and it will be beneficial for all avenger 220 riders.
        In the p220 you can do 45 in the 5th gear and pull staright to redline. Wont happen in the avenger. It runs on a smaller carb and has a detuned head. You need to change the head and carb. Electricals, I am not so sure about as I dont know whether the avenger uses a the same sensor package as the 220. If yes then you can use the cdi as well.

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        • #19
          Re: Bajaj Avenger 220 Vs Pulsar 220

          friends,

          Compared the parts list of Avenger 200 and Pulsar 200,

          main differences are Carb, Airfilter, clutchplate and CDI. Pulsar 200 having an extra temp sensor in the cylinder head.(exhaust design are different but i think exhaust valve is the same).
          So there may be no difference in the core engine design(valves,cam,crank,transmission etc).

          Assuming the same method followed by the bajaj to detune the avenger220.
          How i should start
          1)change the Carb and Airfilter(Any idea to accomadate the pulsar airfilter in to an avenger or any adaptable and compact airfilter comparable to the capacity of pulsar 220)
          2)change the CDI

          thanks.

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          • #20
            Re: Bajaj Avenger 220 Vs Pulsar 220

            Originally posted by cruiserboy View Post
            Hello friends wonderful topic,
            i am riding an A220 for 2 years and the only thing i felt not good was the bikes 5th gear does not felt like a 5th gear at all. felt something was restricting it between 80 and 110 kmph. i am not bothered about crossing 110 kmph, just want to know how to make it feel nice between 80 and 110 kmph. if someone could guide us to overcome this difficulty it will be a great help for us (the A220 owners).

            What could be the cost to replace the Head with valves and Camshaft, carb and ignition. does the timing chain need to be changed....and what if i am only changing Head with valves and camshaft.

            Is that Rev limit of A220 is less than that of P220.

            Or any possibility to replace the 5th gear of A220 with P220's to make it some what relaxed than the stock.

            thanks.
            The main reason behind this is the character of the bike itself. You can't get it to go smooth above 80kmph like a p220 because of the bike's stance - the cruiser stance of the avenger is because of it's rear tyre - a 15" , while p220 uses a 17"
            A 17" gives higher top end comfortably. Upgrading the avenger's rear tyre to a 17" if not impossible, will make the bike lose it's character.
            (I tried experimenting with a 16" enticer tyre and back to 18" on my p150classic. There is considerable increase in top speed and smooth top end)

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            • #21
              Re: Bajaj Avenger 220 Vs Pulsar 220

              Originally posted by Bibhu View Post
              You got me wrong brother... Yes, I am harsh with my words.. But it is practical.. People learn in stages.. The thread starter should atleast make some effort from his side to learn before starting a thread asking for help regarding something which he has absolutely no understanding of.

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              Apologies for the long absence and thanks for all the insight, bro!!

              I'm sorry if I did not make myself clear when I said that I was looking for information, not actually mod the engine myself. I just did not want to be fooled by the mechanic. I'm less than a novice when it comes to the getting down and dirty phase and most of my time have been spent riding. Hence, pls pardon my ignorance.

              We felt that the stock reliability is lot more worthy than the anticipated gain in power and decided to drop any modding plans.!
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              • #22
                Re: Bajaj Avenger 220 Vs Pulsar 220

                Originally posted by asbshyam View Post
                Apologies for the long absence and thanks for all the insight, bro!!

                I'm sorry if I did not make myself clear when I said that I was looking for information, not actually mod the engine myself. I just did not want to be fooled by the mechanic. I'm less than a novice when it comes to the getting down and dirty phase and most of my time have been spent riding. Hence, pls pardon my ignorance.

                We felt that the stock reliability is lot more worthy than the anticipated gain in power and decided to drop any modding plans.!
                Wise decision. Fiddling with the engine without proper knowledge is an invitation to misfortune. Leaving it to a mechanic is even worse.

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                Last edited by Bibhu; 12-17-2013, 12:29 AM.
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                • #23
                  Re: Bajaj Avenger 220 Vs Pulsar 220

                  Originally posted by Bibhu View Post
                  Wise decision. Fiddling with the engine without properknowledge is an invitation to misfortune. Leaving it to a mechanic is even worse.

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                  That's gotta be the best line I've ever read recently.

                  Cheers!
                  VJ
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                  The girl said, 'NO!'


                  And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


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                  • #24
                    Re: Bajaj Avenger 220 Vs Pulsar 220

                    Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
                    That's gotta be the best line I've ever read recently.

                    Cheers!
                    VJ
                    Thank you... I think...

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