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**The Monk** · 08-21-2013, 12:17 PM

Re: Engine flush, oil booster

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**petrolhead_chn** · 08-21-2013, 12:37 PM

Re: Engine flush, oil booster

Are you planning to purchase it? Not to put you down or so, please stay away from such brands. If you really want to flush your engine use Wurth/Cyclo engine oil flush and Wurth engine oil additive. Both are available at Shell fuel stations.

Ideally an engine flush cleans the engine's surface carbon deposits and old oil deposits. It is recommended to flush the engine once in 10k kms. But engine oil additive is unnecessary. It is just my opinion though. I have used both cyclo and Wurth engine oil flush on my P150 and it did not create any trouble.

To witness true results if the engine flush works or not, you need to drain the old oil, fill in with fresh oil, add engine flush liquid, idle the bike for 10minutes, give it few revvs and drain the oil to see the results. Moreover a single engine flush usage will not cleanse the engine. It has to be regularly used with appropriate oil change intervals.

You already gave the opinion of that particular product in your post

bro.

Originally posted by Rakesh Rok View Post

3. Or is it just another cheap trick to make money. . ?

Yes it is!

Honestly, if you change the oil once in every 3k kms (minueral oil) such products are not necessary

. Other members may have few opinions as well.

**Rakesh Rok** · 08-21-2013, 01:05 PM

Re: Engine flush, oil booster

Originally posted by petrolhead_chn View Post

Are you planning to purchase it? Not to put you down or so, please stay away from such brands. If you really want to flush your engine use Wurth/Cyclo engine oil flush and Wurth engine oil additive. Both are available at Shell fuel stations.

Ideally an engine flush cleans the engine's surface carbon deposits and old oil deposits. It is recommended to flush the engine once in 10k kms. But engine oil additive is unnecessary. It is just my opinion though. I have used both cyclo and Wurth engine oil flush on my P150 and it did not create any trouble.

To witness true results if the engine flush works or not, you need to drain the old oil, fill in with fresh oil, add engine flush liquid, idle the bike for 10minutes, give it few revvs and drain the oil to see the results. Moreover a single engine flush usage will not cleanse the engine. It has to be regularly used with appropriate oil change intervals.

You already gave the opinion of that particular product in your post

bro.

Yes it is!

Honestly, if you change the oil once in every 3k kms (minueral oil) such products are not necessary

. Other members may have few opinions as well.

That sounds good, will try it out for my Unicorn in the next service. . . As said by you, will purchase them and check in the Shell petroleum itself. . . I got everything you said except the above bolded sentence. . . You mean to say that first I need to drain the old oil from my bike and then use a new oil and with that add this additive and then flush that and again put a new oil for it. . ?

(correct me if I am wrong here) Is that right, that means I need to buy two oil cans for my bike when doing this. . ? BTW is it recommended for once in 2-3 oil changes or once in 10k kms. . ? Will it keep the engine in a better condition. . ? Then I would do it regularly, BTW what is the cost of that in Shell fuel stations. . ?

Cheers!!!

**petrolhead_chn** · 08-21-2013, 01:44 PM

Re: Engine flush, oil booster

Originally posted by Rakesh Rok View Post

You mean to say that first I need to drain the old oil from my bike and then use a new oil and with that add this additive and then flush that and again put a new oil for it. . ?

(correct me if I am wrong here) Is that right, that means I need to buy two oil cans for my bike when doing this. . ?

Correct!

Originally posted by Rakesh Rok View Post

BTW is it recommended for once in 2-3 oil changes or once in 10k kms. . ? Will it keep the engine in a better condition. . ? Then I would do it regularly, BTW what is the cost of that in Shell fuel stations. . ?

Cheers!!!

It depends mate. I change oil once in every 2000kms and do a flush in the 3rd oil change. It has helped me keep engine clean. The interiors of my Pulsar still looks new and shiny. Will try to post pictures. The cost of Wurth or Cyclo flush liquid is 150/-

**Rakesh Rok** · 08-21-2013, 01:46 PM

Re: Engine flush, oil booster

Originally posted by petrolhead_chn View Post

It depends mate. I change oil once in every 2000kms and do a flush in the 3rd oil change. It has helped me keep engine clean. The interiors of my Pulsar still looks new and shiny. Will try to post pictures. The cost of Wurth or Cyclo flush liquid is 150/-

Oh ok sure, that'd be helpful. . .

Cheers!!!

**Rakesh Rok** · 08-21-2013, 03:46 PM

Re: Engine flush, oil booster

@petrolhead_chn after all these things, I have two questions in mind (sorry to ask it again),
1. If I am going for this engine flush, as mentioned above, I need to buy two bottles of oil for my bike, one before the cleansing part and after that one, . . Ok here it goes, I am presently using Shell Ax7 semi-synthetic for my bike and my bike has done 48k+ kms on the odo, so is it okay to start this from my next service on. . ? Also when doing this as said I need to buy two 1L bottles of Ax7, so is it mandatory to use the same oil before and after or can I use a normal basic oil from shell, (yellow bottle one which costs less and it is the basic semi-synthetic oil or should I do with both Ax7 itself). . .
2. How effective are these, I know you have answered it above, but still need a little more extra like is it like decarbonizing, can this replace the decarbonizing of the engine as I assume this is a safe way to do without opening and meddling with the engine. . ? (again correct me if I am wrong here) If all the queries are answered then will do it as you said, once in every 10k kms, that'd be convenient for me. . . That's it and thanks in advance. . .

Cheers!!!

**petrolhead_chn** · 08-22-2013, 05:51 AM

Re: Engine flush, oil booster

Originally posted by Rakesh Rok View Post

@petrolhead_chn after all these things, I have two questions in mind (sorry to ask it again),
1. If I am going for this engine flush, as mentioned above, I need to buy two bottles of oil for my bike, one before the cleansing part and after that one, . . Ok here it goes, I am presently using Shell Ax7 semi-synthetic for my bike and my bike has done 48k+ kms on the odo, so is it okay to start this from my next service on. . ? Also when doing this as said I need to buy two 1L bottles of Ax7, so is it mandatory to use the same oil before and after or can I use a normal basic oil from shell, (yellow bottle one which costs less and it is the basic semi-synthetic oil or should I do with both Ax7 itself). . .
2. How effective are these, I know you have answered it above, but still need a little more extra like is it like decarbonizing, can this replace the decarbonizing of the engine as I assume this is a safe way to do without opening and meddling with the engine. . ? (again correct me if I am wrong here) If all the queries are answered then will do it as you said, once in every 10k kms, that'd be convenient for me. . . That's it and thanks in advance. . .

Cheers!!!

Anytime mate!

1. Do you think you have missed out oil changes more often (i.e) did not change the oil at respective drain interval? If you believe the inside of engine is not taken care then go for it. Ideally if you had changed the oil frequently then the flush is not 'mandatory'. Yes you can use the yellow can (mineral oil) to do the flush, drain it out completely and then use your regular oil. But ensure to drain out the oil completely by leaving your bike in side stand for sometime.

2. Decarbonizing is totally a different game mate. It primarily involves dismantling the head to scrap off the carbon deposits. In cars they are done even without taking out the head using certain machines and chemicals. In motorcycles the head is dismantled for decarbonizing as it is much easier this way. Please note that in few cases (mostly in cars), the carbon deposits/sludge around the rings actually make up to the lost compression over time by sealing the gap. In such cases engine flush removes those seals thereby compression maybe lost (just a disclaimer bro). Engine flush avoids sludge build up, removes the delicate deposits around the rings, walls and other movable mechanical parts on which gunk may develop later if left untreated and reduces friction.

**Rakesh Rok** · 08-22-2013, 01:06 PM

Re: Engine flush, oil booster

Originally posted by petrolhead_chn View Post

Anytime mate!

1. Do you think you have missed out oil changes more often (i.e) did not change the oil at respective drain interval? If you believe the inside of engine is not taken care then go for it. Ideally if you had changed the oil frequently then the flush is not 'mandatory'. Yes you can use the yellow can (mineral oil) to do the flush, drain it out completely and then use your regular oil. But ensure to drain out the oil completely by leaving your bike in side stand for sometime.

2. Decarbonizing is totally a different game mate. It primarily involves dismantling the head to scrap off the carbon deposits. In cars they are done even without taking out the head using certain machines and chemicals. In motorcycles the head is dismantled for decarbonizing as it is much easier this way. Please note that in few cases (mostly in cars), the carbon deposits/sludge around the rings actually make up to the lost compression over time by sealing the gap. In such cases engine flush removes those seals thereby compression maybe lost (just a disclaimer bro). Engine flush avoids sludge build up, removes the delicate deposits around the rings, walls and other movable mechanical parts on which gunk may develop later if left untreated and reduces friction.

Thank you got it cleared now and will try it out once and see the difference. . . As of now, bike's running in excellent condition with nothing to worry about, but the reason for asking this is that if it's done regularly will the bike be still better, that's it. . . As said, will just give a go, if I feel it's way better then will continue it from now on. . . Thanks again. . .

Cheers!!!

**rxdude** · 08-23-2013, 11:12 AM

Re: Engine flush, oil booster

You may try Nulon also, I think its good. I haven't used it till now, but planning use one, soon

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**Rakesh Rok** · 08-23-2013, 04:48 PM

Re: Engine flush, oil booster

Originally posted by rxdude View Post

You may try Nulon also, I think its good. I haven't used it till now, but planning use one, soon

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Will try if I can get that. . . BTW @petrolhead_chn went to the Shell Fuel Station yesterday and asked him about this, they know about these but they said they don't have them in their shops and asked me to try it from Oil and Lubricant dealers. . .

Cheers!!!

**Aditya N Bharadwaj** · 08-23-2013, 10:42 PM

Re: Engine flush, oil booster

Originally posted by petrolhead_chn View Post

Anytime mate!

1. Do you think you have missed out oil changes more often (i.e) did not change the oil at respective drain interval? If you believe the inside of engine is not taken care then go for it. Ideally if you had changed the oil frequently then the flush is not 'mandatory'. Yes you can use the yellow can (mineral oil) to do the flush, drain it out completely and then use your regular oil. But ensure to drain out the oil completely by leaving your bike in side stand for sometime.

I've not used even the fully synth oils like motul 7100 for more than 4k kms anytime before. My oil is relatively new and my odo shows 16k kms. Next oil change is at 19k. Shall I go for the flush then? Or shall I not?
[MENTION=59533]Rakesh Rok[/MENTION], next time gonna accompany you for it. I'm interested to learn something new.

**petrolhead_chn** · 08-24-2013, 05:04 AM

Re: Engine flush, oil booster

Originally posted by Aditya N Bharadwaj View Post

I've not used even the fully synth oils like motul 7100 for more than 4k kms anytime before. My oil is relatively new and my odo shows 16k kms. Next oil change is at 19k. Shall I go for the flush then? Or shall I not?
@Rakesh Rok, next time gonna accompany you for it. I'm interested to learn something new.

The oil grade either mineral or FS/SS does not mater brother. It is the periodic change interval that counts. You sure can do an engine flush. 20k mark is just appropriate. Engine flush helps clean engine internals and allows the new oil to perform better. Use Wurth engine flush.

Originally posted by Rakesh Rok View Post

Will try if I can get that. . . BTW @petrolhead_chn went to the Shell Fuel Station yesterday and asked him about this, they know about these but they said they don't have them in their shops and asked me to try it from Oil and Lubricant dealers. . .

Cheers!!!

Did you try Justdial US Try that! Try contacting the shell main office in Bangy and get details.

I just hope the below contact should give you a lead.

Wuerth Elektronik CBT India Private Limited
Plot No. 27, III Phase
Koorgally Industrial Area, Ilawala Hobli,
(Off Hunsur Main Road - Behind MMC Factory)
Mysore - 570018
Karnataka
INDIA

Phone: +91 821 240 80 01
Fax: +91 804 260 19 11
E-mail: [email protected]
Internet: www.we-online.de

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Shell India Markets Private Limited
3rd Floor, RMZ Centennial, Campus B
#8B, Kundanahalli Main Road
Bangalore – 560 048
Tel : +91 80 4021 7070
Fax : +91 80 4021 7067

**Rakesh Rok** · 08-24-2013, 11:19 AM

Re: Engine flush, oil booster

Originally posted by Aditya N Bharadwaj View Post

@Rakesh Rok, next time gonna accompany you for it. I'm interested to learn something new.

Yes sure, whoever's oil change comes first, we'll do it and I think it's mine for sure

. . .

Cheers!!!

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Originally posted by petrolhead_chn View Post

Did you try Justdial US Try that! Try contacting the shell main office in Bangy and get details.

I just hope the below contact should give you a lead.

Wuerth Elektronik CBT India Private Limited
Plot No. 27, III Phase
Koorgally Industrial Area, Ilawala Hobli,
(Off Hunsur Main Road - Behind MMC Factory)
Mysore - 570018
Karnataka
INDIA - This one is near my house, I'll try going there and speaking there, tried calling but it's coming check the number you have dialed, don't know what's wrong. . .
Phone: +91 821 240 80 01
Fax: +91 804 260 19 11
E-mail: [email protected]
Internet: www.we-online.de

***

Shell India Markets Private Limited
3rd Floor, RMZ Centennial, Campus B
#8B, Kundanahalli Main Road
Bangalore – 560 048
Tel : +91 80 4021 7070
Fax : +91 80 4021 7067

And about the Bangalore address, going tomorrow, will see if I can get some info there or else will search a good dealer there and get it and keep it for my next use. . .

I had a conversation about this with my friend and he said he has done diesel flush, the procedure is as explained below,

diesel flush once i have done that... removed old engine oil then 1litre of diesel into engine. and kick started the bike for 5 times, then igniton on- in neutral for 20secs . let engine run in neutral for 20secs.stop and switch off the engine..let it cool for 5mins. start again, put in 1st gear and run it for 20secs, rear wheel will turn,let it turn.again stop engine for 5 mins to cool, and do samme in 2nd gear. repeat in all gears....

Should I try the above thing, will it work and is it similar to that or is this harmful for the engine. . ?

Cheers!!!

**petrolhead_chn** · 08-24-2013, 11:54 AM

Re: Engine flush, oil booster

Originally posted by Rakesh Rok View Post

diesel flush once i have done that... removed old engine oil then 1litre of diesel into engine. and kick started the bike for 5 times, then igniton on- in neutral for 20secs . let engine run in neutral for 20secs.stop and switch off the engine..let it cool for 5mins. start again, put in 1st gear and run it for 20secs, rear wheel will turn,let it turn.again stop engine for 5 mins to cool, and do samme in 2nd gear. repeat in all gears....

Should I try the above thing, will it work and is it similar to that or is this harmful for the engine. . ?
Cheers!!!

That sounds good mate and I've heard few doing it! Maybe your friend did it but I've to accept that I did not try this method. I definitely did not want to run into problems or possible explosion

. I advice you to stay away from this method unless you let your friend experiment on your bike. Whatever diesel is left inside the engine would mix up with oil and I don't know, this just confuses me. Sorry! We are just trying to tidy up the internals with some special additive and diesel seems extreme to me.

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