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  • Stereotyping indian biker

    This is my first blog so i am sorry for any errors.

    ​Dear Media,
    Much has been written and spoken in the last week on the dark side of Super-Biking and the riders who own the machines. Barring a few articles here and there, most were blows below the belt. I'd like to point out that No, We are not the bad-boys you so love to portray us as!
    Its unfortunate that a young boys life was lost and you wake up to point fingers at everyone from the manufacturer, to the rider and the riders parents. I agree there was a fault, but its not fair to zero in on one person. Yes, 19 is too early to be mature enough to ride but great riders have started their careers as early as 12 yrs.

    Yes, the manufacturer makes bikes that go blazingly fast but they expect you to respect that power. Yes, parents buy you a bike out of sheer love for you but they dont expect to get you killed on it.*

    An accident is always waiting to happen, the question is how prepared are you to face it or avoid it. Every rider I know is geared from head to toe and has many thousands of kilometers of superbiking experience. There is absolutely no question of being on a superbike and not being in protective gear. You'll never see a cricketer ever facing a fast bowler without the helmet and pads, you'll never see a doctor treating an infected patient without proper gloves but strangely you'll a few bikers without any gear but that certainly is an anomaly. I personally know so many bikers in India and each has invested a lot of money to ensure they have protected themselves.
    We know that its easy to use the words like rash,reckless,crazy,immature,speed demon etc to stereotype us without realising that we are the same people who treat patients, fly your airplanes, manage your money, fight your law suits etc. If you see us in our regular office clothes you'll realise that we're just another face in the crowd who works hard for a living. So I urge you, before putting that pen to paper and begin to write another sensational story, do realise that its not a crime to own and ride a superbike in India. We might ride a little faster when the roads permit to do so and thats usually when you're fast asleep on a sunday morning. Dont believe me?Ask yourself how many bikers have you spotted on the road despite the fact that there are over 5000 of active riders in India. We go great lengths to live our passion because thats what we live for. That is our life!

    If i have hurted any sentiments I am extremely sorry and did not mean to do so

    If u liked it don't forget to like,share,comment and follow.

    YOUR REVMINISTER

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    Thread approved and moved to GBD section!

    Well I respect your thoughts and agree with most of them, but a well geared up enthusiast is a minority in India and not the general populace. That's what we're aiming to do.
    India broadly has 3 different types of bike users:
    1. Commuters,
    2. Mid level sports bikers/cruisers and
    3. Superbikers/cruisers.

    While #3 have all the gears, they do not wear it all the time. No sir, SBKers are not ATGATT! Then they have excuses - I had to go nearby (to show off at a CCD revving engines like a fool), I had to go to a wedding (why take your SBK, hire an Uber) and many more! But the same people take part in safe riding rallies and oblige everyone with taking their pics. I'm sorry I have seen very few SBKers who are down to earth (like a normal person should be) and they've all grown to be very close friends of mine.
    SBKers also hog the roads during Sundays in their customary 100 km rides to the nearest CCD out of the town.
    Or take IBW as an example. It's just mad. Riders (all kinds) have no road sense.

    Yes, there are sensible SBKers - but they're a minority. Maybe 20% at most!

    Now lets come to #2 riders. These are people who have jumped from riding smaller bikes (generally) and are somewhat sensible. However, they create havoc on empty roads. Open roads = WOT! These people are the least ones to realize that speeds done on the bike depends more on the brakes than their engines and their craziness. These are also the people who get harassed the most with bad mouthing of the so called revered term "biker" in India. And most of these riders don't use riding gears in city. Else, they're usually seen in a jacket and sandals. A big L.O.L and all the best to that!

    #1 - the uneducated/ignorant/arrogant/thick skinned commuter. Most dangerous species of the lot. Protests against helmets, let alone other safety gear. Follows absolutely no traffic rules. They are the least sensible people on the road out there, be it city/villages/highways. Reasons - can be anything!

    So, who is the sensible biker we are talking about here? Most of them are rightly portrayed by the media (yes they do glorify things - they've a business to run, but bikers provide them the fodder in the first place). A good "biker" has to be a good road user first. Rest will follow.

    Sorry if my views hurt members, but I feel this is the right way to educate people in respecting other road users too while still enjoying what they do.
    Last edited by Divya Sharan; 12-16-2016, 05:20 PM.
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      Divya is right. Even the geared up guys break speed limits, forget about the gearless chappal wearing guy. "Young fool dies on superbike" is a tasty morsel for news channels. They almost never interview or show the guy who does things right, so others can learn.

      The number of people dying on the roads due to excessive speed are enough reason for cops to detain bikers everywhere. Many a cop who stopped me said " I know you're going high speed after the check post. All of you do the same thing."

      Isn't he right? If speed is not the issue, then how come a ninja crashes headfirst into a bus? A Fz, which can corner easily due to its tyres, runs wide and into an incoming truck on a ghat road? Experienced superbikers still die on the roads, and that fact shuts down all the arguments about "sensible bikers".

      Geared up bikers still die due to accidents involving excessive speed; it's as if the safety net that the gear provides makes people feel confident to speed further.

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        Re: Stereotyping indian biker

        Just a small thought from my side

        I have seen many superbikers not even wearing a helmet but I have seen many superbikers who are ATGATT and follow the rules.

        Money can buy you a superbike but not civic sense on the road. I have seen many superbikers they don't even talk to you properly even if you are fully geared.

        Now, I also want to highlight some people which I am seeing, who will ignore buying riding gears but they would buy a super loud exhaust and a action cam.

        Like Divya sir said mid segment sports bike owners are harassed just because some owners like to do hooliganism and impress girls.

        At last I would say maintaining road sense doesn't depend on what bike you own/ride but it comes down to the rider's attitude. A splendor/activa rider can be well disciplined instead of a superbiker.

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          Re: Stereotyping indian biker

          I've been just thinking of this issue since a week when a minor ran a wrooming Scorpio into an innocent helmetless couple's activa back in Hyderabad. Yes, it was the boy's mistake. But a helmet could've saved good amount of damage.

          I run ATGATT and I see that I'm still a part of that stereotype despite my modest max 70-80 on a CBR. And they're not wrong. I've seen pulsars and R15s crash at that speeds into traffic. Yes, we throttle wrongly. And no, I'm not preaching. I've ridden an Activa for a longer 30k kms as that stereotype too. I ran around at 90s in cities cutting guys crazily in my "roomwear". I've collided crazily and ran away. Now I know what mistakes I did. Nevertheless, I still see riders on all 1lac+ bikes, atleast, at the very least 90% of them in improper gear and speeds way too high for the condition of roads. So, I think Divya is right when he says that media isn't mistaken.

          The good ATGATT biker is the minority. Stereotyping completely might be wrong, but as a community, yes, we are on the wrong side.

          Just my opinion, no offence intended.

          -A rash rider turned ATGATT good guy
          I meditate as I ride to find a place to sit and meditate.
          You meet the nicest people on a Honda.

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            Re: Stereotyping indian biker

            Firstly, welcome onboard, [MENTION=85141]Harsh_revminister[/MENTION]

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              Re: Stereotyping indian biker

              Thank you so much for your views guys.

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                Re: Stereotyping indian biker

                Originally posted by Revminister View Post
                Thank you so much for your views guys.
                Maintaining multiple IDs is not allowed on the forum (you started the thread with a different ID). Please consider this as the first and only warning. Moreover, one of your IDs will be blacklisted with immediate effect.
                Any further breach and you'll be permanently banned from posting on the forum.

                Thanks!
                Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                  Hi! Actually i had created an another id as i did not know about the conformation of the earlier id....it was an honest mistake and i did not do in purpose
                  ...sorry if i have caused any inconvenience😊😊

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                    Re: Stereotyping indian biker

                    Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                    Maintaining multiple IDs is not allowed on the forum (you started the thread with a different ID). Please consider this as the first and only warning. Moreover, one of your IDs will be blacklisted with immediate effect.
                    Any further breach and you'll be permanently banned from posting on the forum.

                    Thanks!
                    Hi! Actually i had created an another id as i did not know about the conformation of the earlier id....it was an honest mistake and i did not do on purpose
                    ...sorry if i have caused any inconvenience😊😊

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                    • #11
                      Re: Stereotyping indian biker

                      Can you please tell me the full form of ATGATT - so that I could understand it
                      Originally posted by Chandan92 View Post
                      Just a small thought from my side

                      I have seen many superbikers not even wearing a helmet but I have seen many superbikers who are ATGATT and follow the rules.

                      Money can buy you a superbike but not civic sense on the road. I have seen many superbikers they don't even talk to you properly even if you are fully geared.

                      Now, I also want to highlight some people which I am seeing, who will ignore buying riding gears but they would buy a super loud exhaust and a action cam.

                      Like Divya sir said mid segment sports bike owners are harassed just because some owners like to do hooliganism and impress girls.

                      At last I would say maintaining road sense doesn't depend on what bike you own/ride but it comes down to the rider's attitude. A splendor/activa rider can be well disciplined instead of a superbiker.
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                        Re: Stereotyping indian biker

                        Originally posted by Rohan12 View Post
                        Can you please tell me the full form of ATGATT - so that I could understand it
                        ATGATT- All The Gear All The Time

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                        • #13
                          Re: Stereotyping indian biker

                          Thanks for the answer !
                          Originally posted by Chandan92 View Post
                          ATGATT- All The Gear All The Time
                          ----consecutive posts auto-merged-----

                          I don't know whether I should post it or not - I don't fall in the Super Sport Area - (Owner of RE TB 350 / H KRZ R) . But what I read from above of all the post it should be noted that every bikers should respect the speed law and the surrounding area - roads , lands , peoples and animals , by which what ever bike/scooter we ride we will never or might not fall into any accident . Harsh Revminister has told correctly that it cannot be said that all super bike owners are bad , some are but others do maintain the law . In my Kolkata I have seen at the time of 5-6 A.M some Kawasaki and Harley are ridding within safe speed , maintaining the law and also not revving hard or making noise pollution , even they use their low beams (which we sometimes don't) and there are others with their 220f , AS200, R15V2 riders who are doing the opposite but there are others too who with this same bike are behaving normally .
                          It all depends on the biker who is riding the bike . If he likes to show off then no matter what he rides he will be killed or get others kill even if he is wearing all the gears . People with their show off attitude tends to forget that speed they are using should be used in tracks and not on public roads or highway .
                          I rest my case here !
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