Re: Why won't Yamaha bring mid Segment bikes ?

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Yamaha Launched RD 650 twin for RS 4 Lacks (well an Oasis that's what it is)


Wow, that could have been a tornado on Indian motorcycle industry ,one hell of a machine, waited for long but it didn't happen, then i realize this could be the

reason.

Yamaha plays globally most of their products are launched in countries like Thailand, Indonesia (there may be exceptions). Later they localize

and introduce in Indian market in order to make it cost effective. When that strategy doe snot match with expected volume of bike sale, they simply drop the plan or

launch as CKD or CBD, that's why we wont get products like Yamaha R6, cause if launched the price may be equal to a some 900-litre class bike.

The other reason could be they are not serious about Indian market, (not Yamaha Suzuki too). I dropped my plan to buy R3 because it lacked ABS,

(man i wish my Yamaha ray Z scooter could have equipped twin ABS), and they waited govt to make it mandate, buy that time Re Lauched

Interceptor and that changed the wind.

I learned riding from RX 135, such a wonderful machine, but in the mid 90s they stopped production with out an upgrade because of the poor sale.

These are assumptions, IMO not facts. Thank you very much for sharing such thought, may be on day the dream will come true.

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Yamaha should definitely consider bringing in bikes in the 400-600 cc segments. Specially retro/tourer types. The lower segment of their present offerings in India are too plain and the upper segment is too sporty. They should consider maybe a XSR 250/XSR 400 or a Tracer 700. India is a very good potential market for them as there are very less number of 'good' low and mid segment long distance tourers in India. But, they are not very receptive nowadays. Their strategies are only decided in the boardrooms and not by the love and hope Indians have on them!

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The R3 is a great bike. You shouldn't have let something as trivial as a lack of ABS be the decider. I rode liter-class superbikes (ZX-11, GSXR1100) without ABS and did just fine. If anything, riding a bike with good non-ABS is a great way to improve your skills. Instead of just grabbing a handful of brake and hoping for the best, you learn how to properly modulate your braking. Keep in mind that ABS is all but useless on loose/sandy surfaces, which are common in India.

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I completely agree with you , mt07, xsr series, tracer series , tenere series are really good and has been excelled in European and American market, Yamaha should really launch adventure tourers n cafe Racers in India. The bike I m looking forward is super tenere xtz1200.

I would also like to say that currently Yamaha has the best product line up among all manufacturers.

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I too was in a similar state, looking for ABS than the actual bike. Being on this forum opened my eyes to the reality, thanks to fellow members like yourself.

ABS only makes sense if you're driving straight and then brake. In all other conditions, it's useless, unless you have a complicated electronic system.

Also, like you mention, best way to develop skills is without any rider-aids.

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Actually, ABS is not just for straight-line riding. It is most useful in emergency stops on wet pavement, especially if the rider has to swerve while braking. Under those circumstances, having ABS means the difference between a low-side crash (and possibly hitting the thing you were trying to avoid), and a clean swerve that prevents an accident. The reason ABS is useless on sand and loose surfaces is that the purpose of ABS is to keep the wheel turning so the tire can maintain grip. On sand, any hard braking locks the wheel immediately, which ABS would try to prevent by modulating braking just enough to keep the wheel turning, but since any application of the brake causes the wheel to stop, the end result is that your brakes simply stop working.


Don't get me wrong. I think ABS is a valuable addition to motorcycling, and improves safety significantly. My bike has it, and is not available without it. But at the same time, I don't think the lack of ABS is sufficient reason to bypass an otherwise-good motorcycle. Lots of lower-tier bikes, especially the imports, are less likely to come with ABS because it's expensive, and the sub-500cc bikes are typically beginner bikes everywhere outside South and Southeast Asia. Many will have ABS as an option, because nervous parents will be willing to part with the extra cash to help make their first-time rider children more safe, and the non-ABS will be for riders who are looking for a less-expensive first bike before upgrading to something more sophisticated.

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Only thing good abt yamaha motorcycles are,its way of riding the motorcycle.You feel like,your driving your yamaha bike in an ocean.Yamaha used to make boat engines ,then spread its wings to motorcycles.I could notice the similarity.Other than,riding feel or comfort,everything else is disappointing.The make of yamaha r15,some say ita fibre.

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Thank you for the insight brother much appreciate, because of my riding habits i preferred ABS for the safety just like any other safety gears. And you are right

R3 is a great bike period, If RE dint launch 650 twin in this price range, it was my clear choice.

NB: With duel channel ABS my interceptor did fall, on the gravel the bike started wobbling i pulled the front brake and the rear skidded, and i learned to be careful on

sand and gravel.

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Nah indians should be restricted to 150 cc only, why would I as an EU citizen buy something that is availble in some third world country? /s

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Who made you the judge of that?

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As an EU citizen who earns more, has a better standard of living, takes better decisions I have all the authority to decide how a third worlder should live.

in other words that is the precise reason why many manufacturers bring stripped down versions of vehicles to india, it is an ego issue on top of logistics, and market and regulations

apparantly 600 to 800 cc class is protected from imports [ this requires clarification]

another bogey man theory is policy of indian govt is to restrict high fuel consumption vehicles or else tag them as luxuries because fuel is largely imported.

Yamaha got burned badly with the failure of rd 350 yet saw roaring success with the rx 100 135, r15 fz 15 where as the fz 25 fazer 25 sputters on.

so as thier own data shows smaller fun bikes sell well where as larger cc bikes simply failed.

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What about kawasaki or ducati or truimph, they have the full lineup here.

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