Re: Why won't Yamaha bring mid Segment bikes ?

Kawasaki emerged because of the tie up with bajaj and their sale of the KB motor to Bajaj first seen in Caliber 115 the Boxer and then adapted to the Pulsar line.

Ducati is suffering and Triumph nearly died because of their detune fiasco. Look at their sale numbers and compare it to Yamaha

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Don't know you nor care about you. If you can't understand sarcasm take a hike.

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Sure better standard or living or roads for sure , but a mt07 makes perfect sense if you ask , even better a tenere 700 or a tracer 700 , I would heavily consider these bikes as a upgrade,

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Your location shows in USA, you must have driven a lot of superbikes, but how can you be so wrong about ABS and sand?

I bought Dominar 400 last year, it's my first motorcycle with dual channel ABS. I wanted to test its limits so went and did it. I live in Rajasthan, where it's common to have fine sand on road. Whenever I found a patch of sand (say 10 kg sand spread over 10 meters) I would make a u-turn and approach it at a speed of around 100 kmph then hit both the brakes like a maniac! Believe me I was scared but wearing all protection equipment and on an empty road.

But ABS worked like magic, it didn't simply stop braking like you said. It modulated the brakes 100's of times per second and effectively bringing the motorcycle to a stop without swerving and within a respectable distance. The ABS never stopped the brakes from working, the front dive was constant, I couldn't feel the brake modulations because they are too fast for humans to notice.

Your comment, "but since any application of the brake causes the wheel to stop" is only and only applicable on hard/black ice where the traction ls literally 0. Under all other conditions, there is at least some traction say 5% and ABS applies the brakes to utilize that 5% traction to the full extent and prevents slipping beyond that.

P.S. I am looking for a healthy discussion so that I can learn more, I just shared my personal experience, hope you didn't mind. Also, I get irritated whenever someone calls ABS INTRUSIVE! I don't understand why they say so for a strictly tarmac road motorcycle. I know ABS is intrusive and needs an option to switch off for off-road but there's no such need on tar roads. The ABS will work only when the tyre starts slipping and then it works 1000 times faster than a human so I refuse to believe that a human can stop faster than ABS under exact same conditions.

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I agree on the first part, mostly but we are not talking about commuter bikes here so that's a moot point. About the second one, it is a mistaken assumption that the so called third world countries (btw that is a colonial denigrating term which is not in vogue anymore) make low quality products. In fact most of the european and japanese brands are made in Thailand and Indonesia which belong to 3rd world but are exported all over the world. I will be surprised if there are many big bikes which are manufactured in europe/US due to high costs prevailing there. Actually most of the manufacturing for the world happens in asia, so what you are saying shows how outdated you are.
Now, about why Honda or Yamaha or suzuki don't sell bigger capacity bikes in India is due to pure economics, there isn't much sales to cover the costs but still some do to develop a brand recognition and following and if they think it is going to change in the near future.

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More earning, and better living dude, you don't have the authority to dictate so called third world. You only have the limited ability to think, based on the limited knowledge you have, derived from your perception of reality.