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  • MAP in P220ccCarburetor

    MAP = Manifold Absolute Sensor
    The sensor is given by Bajaj in their new product which they have recently lanuched. Pulsar 220cc Carburetor Version.

    Definition

    The Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP) Sensors (also known as a BARO Sensor) is one of the sensors used in an internal combustion engine's electronic control system. Engines that use a MAP sensor are typically fuel injected. The manifold absolute pressure sensor provides instantaneous manifold pressure information to the engine's electronic control unit (ECU). This is necessary to calculate air density and determine the engine's air mass flow rate, which in turn is used to calculate the appropriate fuel flow.


    It is connected to the intake manifold on both EFI and Carbureted engines to monitor the changes in the vacuum (-ve pressure) that are occuring as you ride change speeds and vary the load via the throttle position. It is temperature compensated and uses a complex algorithm to help offset the pulsating wobble effect of the HD V twin's assymetrical firing setup.

    It is a very major component of the final speed density calculation that ulimately determines the injector's pulse width required to sustain the best A/F ratio at any given time - for EFI setups. In Carburetor versions it assists in monitoring the degree of advance for the timing of the spark plugs. One more sensor with TPS on Pulsar BS-CV32mm carburetor.

    On the carburated bikes, the spark timing curve is selected by the Ignition Module from RPM input and manifold air pressure input (from the MAP sensor).

    In other words, engine rpm and engine load (manifold air pressure) both play a role in determining what spark timing is needed at any given situation.

    Please Note:- The information collected from one of the forum.
    "CorePower"
    Motorcycle Performance
    Pune


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      I own a P220 DTSi, and I haven't seen any indication that it possesses an MAP sensor. (That is no hoses connected to the manifold on the engine side of the carb, no wires or other electronics attached to the manifold.) The DTS-Fi has an MAP sensor, since it has fuel injection. The DTSi version determines it's ignition map based on RPM and Throttle position. (It does have a TPS.)

      I will still take another look at my bike, just to verify this claim. Also if you insist it would be helpful to provide pictures or a description of where this could be found. All in all, I think it's likely that this is misinformation.

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      I just checked on my P220, there's no wiring or hoses going to the manifold side of the carburettor. There's the wires for the autochoke and for the temperature sensor in the engine head, but nothing that connects to the manifold to suggest it might measure the manifold vacuum.
      Last edited by Andante; 08-25-2009, 04:06 PM. Reason: Checked my bike.

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      • #4
        Map

        You won't belive but I checked the bike for only few mins. and then one of the person called me up for fitting K&N on New carb bike. Even I was wondering how come Bajaj will provide MAP on carbureted version because generally as per my knowledge it recomes only in FI system. My information may be wrong. The person who told me regarding the MAP is not auto head but he either got the info. from Bajaj authorised guy. So I wanted to check whether it is MAP or not. So I posted this thread. I think you are right, it must be auto choke not the MAP. I must have looked at it wrong way. But still I'll confirm it again. Thanks for the info. I'll check it once again when the bike will come to my place.

        MODS:- Please block the thread.
        "CorePower"
        Motorcycle Performance
        Pune

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Chinmay Dangre View Post
          You won't belive but I checked the bike for only few mins. and then one of the person called me up for fitting K&N on New carb bike. Even I was wondering how come Bajaj will provide MAP on carbureted version because generally as per my knowledge it recomes only in FI system. My information may be wrong. The person who told me regarding the MAP is not auto head but he either got the info. from Bajaj authorised guy. So I wanted to check whether it is MAP or not. So I posted this thread. I think you are right, it must be auto choke not the MAP. I must have looked at it wrong way. But still I'll confirm it again. Thanks for the info. I'll check it once again when the bike will come to my place.

          MODS:- Please block the thread.
          To be precise there's three sets of wires that go near the carburettor.
          Left side:
          1) On the carb itself, autochoke control. Looks like a small cylinder attached to the carb. (Probably a solenoid.)
          2) In the cylinder, engine temperature sensor. (Most likely.)

          Right side:
          1) On the throttle control, something that's probably a magnet and a sensor. The throttle position sensor. (Probably it switches between two ignition timing maps, based on whether the magnet is sensed or not. Small throttle openings have the magnet near the sensor.)

          There's no other wiring or hoses that connect anywhere near the manifold. If there were an MAP sensor it would either have to be connected there or a vacuum hose would run from the manifold to the ECU. Neither is present. You can verify this for yourself.

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            Topic Closed on OP's request.
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