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**ttg** · 08-31-2009, 09:03 PM

Originally posted by harish_zma View Post

dude chill, let me tell u the solenoid used in this kit can even add 250 hp to ur engine if used big jets. so, get it confirmed from the guy about whom ur speaking, that which jet size he was using those days when he newly installed the kit. i remember everything about his bike and himself. now should i tell u, which jet size he was using? he was very greedy to use NOS without jets. he has not put any jet in the pipe, that means whenever he activates NOS without the jet, whole nitrous of 250 hp was supplied in 17 hp engine.
and check out the thread again, i hav already told, NOS can be used without affecting the engine if used correctly.
now u tell me what will happen if u dont put the jet in the carburettor, will ur bike run like hayabusa? arrey, it will get flooded. everything has to be done in some limit.

Sounds like BS. Prolly just a scam.
Dunno know about your system or that of the bike you are referring.
But, going by this post, you fixed a NOS tank with a direct port somewhere in the intake after the carb(without any restricting jets!). So each time, he hit the button, the nos pressure should be so high that it would go kaboom!

(there would be enough pressure for the nos to come out through the other side of the carb)
Now where does the solenoid come into the picture? is that the valve? or ou have the jets on a solenoid valve?
You should've been arrested for consciously putting your customer's life in grave danger(if what you said you did is true

!)

Originally posted by pranay View Post

High speed riding is only for smart guys??

Can you proove anything that you claim? Can you post a video of your bike's acceleration/top speed?

yeah! for those who can handle 17+250 bhp on their ZMAs

!

**Joel** · 08-31-2009, 09:43 PM

Originally posted by harish_zma View Post

dude chill, let me tell u the solenoid used in this kit can even add 250 hp to ur engine if used big jets. so, get it confirmed from the guy about whom ur speaking, that which jet size he was using those days when he newly installed the kit. i remember everything about his bike and himself. now should i tell u, which jet size he was using? he was very greedy to use NOS without jets. he has not put any jet in the pipe, that means whenever he activates NOS without the jet, whole nitrous of 250 hp was supplied in 17 hp engine.
and check out the thread again, i hav already told, NOS can be used without affecting the engine if used correctly.
now u tell me what will happen if u dont put the jet in the carburettor, will ur bike run like hayabusa? arrey, it will get flooded. everything has to be done in some limit.

Ofcourse everybody is greedy for power and as a supplier of the components you need to ensure its rightly installed and the safety is complied. Do you know how dangerous is NOS? Do you know what can happen if the internals lock up at high speeds? Its DEATH!
All have ways of buying some cheap chinese kits from abroad and selling in india. Now the latest trend is selling some ABS kit for 700 bucks which they buy from abroad for half the price. Everything is a money making trend and there is no real tuning happening.
shoving a NOS tank on these puny Indian engines which do not have great internals is a joke. They cannot take the boost and you need the right technical approach to set things right.
Lets talk numbers here anyways, so how fast is your Karizma?
Do you have some v-box results or a test data. If i remember right, wasnt some enticer with your kit featured in Bike India? Clearly stated that the engine was clattery later.
Injecting NOS into a stock engine is like a moron taking steriods without working out!

**harish_zma** · 08-31-2009, 11:14 PM

i hav tol him everything while sending the kit, that time i tol him not to directly put the big jet, start from smaller and then move little if there is not at all jerk. but what he did he tol me later when his engine was opened. that he tried using the NOS without jet and its was awesome. i told him u will open-up ur engine soon.then he said he already did. i dont misguide my customers. they are like my good friends.

**harish_zma** · 08-31-2009, 11:36 PM

actually i want to put the video and all the stuff, but not havin cam. all these pics are posted from cell. trying to get the cam so that i can post it all.
my bikes engine is also stock, only k&n(with stock size jets), ngk iridium plug and petronas fully synthetic engine oil is installed.

**harish_zma** · 08-31-2009, 11:40 PM

solenoid is placed on bottle side, next to valve of the bottle and jet is placed on other side, where the NOS pipe is injecting in manifold. jet is a brass thing very finely drilled to control the flow of nitrous.

**whizzkid_ram** · 09-01-2009, 12:32 AM

Originally posted by Joel View Post

Now the latest trend is selling some ABS kit for 700 bucks which they buy from abroad for half the price. Everything is a money making trend and there is no real tuning happening.

ooh!

...I intended to go for the ABS brakes...crashed due to your words..Are they safe Joel??

**harish_zma** · 09-03-2009, 03:42 PM

soon goin to put video of my karizma from 0- whatever the top speed comes with NOS and sprocketting. now lets see what's my bike's top speed. im expecting 150 km/hr.

**chickyheart** · 09-03-2009, 04:05 PM

can i use it on my fz16

**Joel** · 09-03-2009, 06:15 PM

Originally posted by harish_zma View Post

soon goin to put video of my karizma from 0- whatever the top speed comes with NOS and sprocketting. now lets see what's my bike's top speed. im expecting 150 km/hr.

Please dont show the speedo. Mention the true speeds with reference from a GPS devide/V-Box or a speedgun. Anyways a stock karizma does 140kph on the speedo with a little sweat. 150kph with all the jazzy works is nothing to write home about, nor is it a reliable measure. We have hit 160kph on the speedo and the rev-limiter kicking in at 9500rpm recorded a true top whack of 142kph.
Also the Karizma has the highest speedo error amongst almost all the Indian bikes. So the less said the better.

**jayprashanth** · 09-03-2009, 06:32 PM

This guy is peddling stuff here people. And he runs a K&N without upjetting, wow!

Harish,

Please don't peddle stuff here. This forum is for sharing information, not misinformation. And doing this will pro'lly get you banned. Nitrous obviously will damage the engine, atleast stock engines. Get that very straight. The temperatures that the engine internals will see will be way higher than in NA form and that is sure to screw things up massively. Using synthetic oil won't help much sir.

Joel,

The ABS that saferide makes works well on the bullets. My front doesn't lock up as quickly as before. So decent bang for the buck man, even though it is reducing your braking efficiency a wee bit. About the Chinese kits, no comments.

Cheers,

Jay

**Andante** · 09-03-2009, 06:39 PM

Originally posted by jayprashanth View Post

This guy is peddling stuff here people. And he runs a K&N without upjetting, wow!

Harish,

Please don't peddle stuff here. This forum is for sharing information, not misinformation. And doing this will pro'lly get you banned. Nitrous obviously will damage the engine, atleast stock engines. Get that very straight. The temperatures that the engine internals will see will be way higher than in NA form and that is sure to screw things up massively. Using synthetic oil won't help much sir.

Joel,

The ABS that saferide makes works well on the bullets. My front doesn't lock up as quickly as before. So decent bang for the buck man, even though it is reducing your braking efficiency a wee bit. About the Chinese kits, no comments.

Cheers,

Jay

Sure, he's peddling stuff here. He's already had one thread closed because of that. Now that wouldn't be too bad, if there was actually some good value to be had from it. But the only thing I see (and with me many others) is a sure fire way to a) kill your engine, b) kill yourself.
And to top it all, when asked for something to back it up, there's just heated responses but no substance. I'm glad guys like Joel hang out here, at least it's some fun watching people squirm when he asks them some good questions.

**abhijeet080808** · 09-03-2009, 06:44 PM

A video is a must to substantiate the claims you have made! Do try to put up one soon.

**gauravbalu** · 09-03-2009, 07:08 PM

mods: lock this thread until TS comes up with a video or something to back his claim...

**harish_zma** · 09-03-2009, 07:45 PM

ok guys if u'll dont believe it, u can ride my bike if u want and check it. at 4000 rpm's my bike does 80 km/hr. whereas befor sprocketting it use to do 65 km/hr in 5th gear, as all other zma's do with stock sprockets.
and guys sorry for being rude to u'll on sprockets thread.

**harish_zma** · 09-03-2009, 07:50 PM

ok guys one more thing i forgot to tell u, if u dont trust me for sprocketting, i can send u sprockets for completely free of cost. if ur satisfied then only keep it with u, or else send it back to me.
what say?

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