This saferide ABS is just amazing, i was actually thinking of getting ABS custom fabricated for my P220, now i will just get these.
I will post how well they work.

if using fat tire or big tire make us feel safe on the road,
and you can turn left or right like my friend..

he is using 5 inch rims in rear with pirelli 190/50/17
3 inch in front with battlax 120/70/17

hey all
i have fitted M45 120 on my zmr at rear

did i made a mistake ?

Hmmm. Engine braking ehh !!!! Interesting concept. All this time I thought engines were meant for acceleration and brakes were for breaking .

By the way: this is a quote from 'A Twist of the Wrist' by Keith Code, pg 68, Section 'Engine is not a Brake!'; 'The purpose of downshifting is to bring the engine into the right rpm range as you being to accelerate out of a turn.'

Why do we need fat tyres?

"Cuz thatz Gangsta, dude!" ( please forgive me for my americano spell as I am quoting a humble poser friend of mine )

You don't need fat tires
YOU WANT Fat Tires

In a simple answer. With compound and tyre design remaining same. Fat tyres is better than skinny tyres.

Inn our local scenario, the problem is not in the tyres perse, but rather the engine and an econimical mindset. All motorcycle are underpowered hence you need skinny tyres to compensate. So in this context, a skinny tyre will give better FE and greater speed, though inferior traction. And how can we forget a nation that is fiercely economical. After all a wider radial tyre will be more expensive too.

This above statement may sound contradictory to my first statement. But lets take the scenario to another context.
Take two indentical 500cc motorcycle. One with 100 rear and the other with 160 rear. Run both motorcycle on the track. Its safe to assume the 100 shod motorcycle will be well behind the 160 shod one. Noticed MotoGP tyres? they're never skinny like our bikes. If by any chance, a skinny tyre will be better, those racers will be using them. The fact is they don't, and its simple. Skinny tyres performs poorer.

Lets examine a reverse scenarios:
Take p220, It comes with 120 rear. Fit a 100 instead and one will notice a noticiable gain in FE and speed. So why don't owners change them to 100?
You see, because it comes with 120 from factory. Same case for FZ16. But I reiterate at a cost of losing traction. The point I am trying to make here is, had p220 and FZ16 comes with 100 rear from factory. People will balk at the idea of fitting in bigger tyres like 120 and 140 respectively, inviting comments such as " why do you want to do this, you'll loose out performance man" sigh!

So my view will be if one so desired to fit in a ..say fz tyres(which is reputed to be light) on a ZMA, the drop in performance will be tolerable. After all if a 150cc can take it without going "". Then surely a 223cc can handle it without much problem. Not to forget, traction and handling will improve.

Yes, Power and tyre should go hand in hand. So generally speaking, more power demands wider tyres, lesser power demands slimmer tyres (I am aware there are exceptional cases where skinny tyres are better in certain areas). But in our case it looks like manufacturers are BIAS towards skinny tyres for sake of being economical. A 200cc motorcycle in the west will generally be shod with wider tyres than one in India.

At the end of the day, it is our mind set. Do we rather have better traction and handling with looks or do we prefer FE and speed and damn the looks. I prefer the first. I have never taken my bike to its maximum speed as of today, nor have I tested it full potential in 0 to 60, so I'm not really bothered if my bike losses some of its top end or acceleration which I've never used, translating to a 0% usage, and rather go for Handling and traction which is 100% constant part of my daily ride and it'll look cooler .

totally agree with this statement.. nice explanation bro

Re: Why do we need fat tyres?

There are many factors that needs to be taken in to consideration before choosing a set of tires for the concerned bike. Fat, not fat, Tread pattern, Radial, Bais, Belted, The type of ride, the riding styles & factors where you will take it out to ride (like tour, off-road, sports, track, street), the kind of life your expecting, compounds in that tire, if the specs of the tire match your stock size wheel?, etc....
Affordable or not is the secondary query for those who seeks the best... But it's so been suggested that one should always consult the right person & get all the info regarding this before making a choice.
The speed rating & load rating is something you look out for when your choosing your tire too. The pros & cons can effect your ride significantly through this too.
When we consider the braking factor with the tires, the load rating is one of the things that define it's probable functionality towards it.
I guess it can go a long way just to talk about tires & try to get to know them better... :P


Cheers!!!!