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    The key parts of any camshaft are the lobes. As the camshaft spins, the lobes open and close the intake and exhaust valves in time with the motion of the piston. It turns out that there is a direct relationship between the shape of the cam lobes and the way the engine performs in different speed ranges.
    To understand why this is the case, imagine that we are running an engine extremely slowly -- at just 10 or 20 revolutions per minute (RPM) -- so that it takes the piston a couple of seconds to complete a cycle. It would be impossible to actually run a normal engine this slowly, but let's imagine that we could. At this slow speed, we would want cam lobes shaped so that:

    Just as the piston starts moving downward in the intake stroke (called top dead center, or TDC), the intake valve would open. The intake valve would close right as the piston bottoms out.

    The exhaust valve would open right as the piston bottoms out (called bottom dead center, or BDC) at the end of the combustion stroke, and would close as the piston completes the exhaust stroke.
    This setup would work really well for the engine as long as it ran at this very slow speed.
    When you increase the RPM, however, this configuration for the camshaft does not work well. If the engine is running at 4,000 RPM, the valves are opening and closing 2,000 times every minute, or 33 times every second. At these speeds, the piston is moving very quickly, so the air/fuel mixture rushing into the cylinder is moving very quickly as well.

    When the intake valve opens and the piston starts its intake stroke, the air/fuel mixture in the intake runner starts to accelerate into the cylinder. By the time the piston reaches the bottom of its intake stroke, the air/fuel is moving at a pretty high speed. If we were to slam the intake valve shut, all of that air/fuel would come to a stop and not enter the cylinder. By leaving the intake valve open a little longer, the momentum of the fast-moving air/fuel continues to force air/fuel into the cylinder as the piston starts its compression stroke. So the faster the engine goes, the faster the air/fuel moves, and the longer we want the intake valve to stay open. We also want the valve to open wider at higher speeds -- this parameter, called valve lift, is governed by the cam lobe profile.Any given camshaft will be perfect only at one engine speed. At every other engine speed, the engine won't perform to its full potential. A fixed camshaft is, therefore, always a compromise. This is why makers have developed schemes to vary the cam profile as the engine speed changes.
    Types of cam arrangements:-Single overhead cam (SOHC)-This arrangement denotes an engine with one cam per head.(ex.pulsar)
    Double overhead cam (DOHC)-A double overhead cam engine has two cams per head.Usually, double overhead cams are used on engines with four or more valves per cylinder(ex. r1 or blackbird)
    Pushrod-Like SOHC and DOHC engines, the valves in a pushrod engine are located in the head, above the cylinder. The key difference is that the camshaft on a pushrod engine is inside the engine block, rather than in the head.(ex.enfield bullet)
    So people use a high lift cam which help valve to remain open longer or close later.Thus valve timing is changed and so can power curve.This is a sure shot way for power gains in 4 st engines.




    \'87 High Torque RD 350B
    in first gear,6000 rpm,whack the throttle.

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    I guess cam timing and valve timing are not same .. can we alter the cam timings as well? What equipments we need to alter the valve timing?
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    • #3
      kaya baat hai rajnish..bahut chup chup ho aaj ??? no replies yet... were my queries too childish?
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      • #4
        Hey nav what do you think about rajnish's post. Is it original. I dont think so.

        This is a cut-copy from

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        • #5
          Sorry lightning I'll not open my mouth in this matter.
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          • #6
            Hey lightning great stuff. But I want to tell you some thing which will help you in life.

            "Dont go about pointing mistakes of others, instead try to help in adding information. And make life easier for others."

            If you want to get noticed then do some thing constructive not destructive.

            Moreover rajnish and me are best friends. If anyone tries any bull****t with him. you are gone buddy.

            So take care and enjoy this forum.

            Your suggestions are all ways welcome.
            bring me the mopeds.

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            • #7
              What do you guys think of implementing vario-cam on bikes? A cam which can increase valve lift progressively?
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              \'84 RD350 2 stroke forever.
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              • #8
                hey rohit, search for VTEC or variable valve timing n lift a concept implemented in different ways by Honda, BMW, Ferrari, Porsche and some other auto majors... in brief the idea is to have two cams having different profiles that gets activated based on RPM/road speed and many other factors...

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                • #9
                  Actually, Vtech is just 2 levels of valve lift and timing. I've read about vvti, and variocam from porsche. Variocam alters valve lift/timing thoughout the rev-range. (To all mech engineers, especially)Would it be feasible on our 'chindi' bikes?
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                  \'84 RD350 2 stroke forever.
                  A sound clip of my RD: http://rapidshare.de/files-en/481080/15/Rohit1.wav

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                  • #10
                    hi rajnish...
                    one mistake.....last line....high lift cam wont increase the valve open time.....it will just push the valve further when it opens and create more space for the mix ture to go in......
                    and rohit its actually not necessary on our bike........it can be made on any four stroke but it will become too costly.....further a bike weighs about a 1/10 of a car.......so say a car and a bike both make 100 bhp...for a bike this will be more than sufficient over the entire rpm range....but in a car the one cam may work making the low end strong and the other to make the top end strong.......this is the roughest of explanations....but this is correct

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                    • #11
                      sir if the valve is pushed further it opens for more time.and thus more mixture gets in.did i claim it is original?even the turbo working i had written had quotes from garrett's site.and variable valve timing has the same cam changing the timing.some cars have infinitely variable timing.anyone is welcome to correct my 'mistakes'but if i take something from a site add something more is it harming anyone's knowledge?i don't feel so.atleast i don't make false claims.what i like i put here so everyone can have a look.
                      \'87 High Torque RD 350B
                      in first gear,6000 rpm,whack the throttle.

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