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    Hi!
    i have a problem with my bike, whenever it rains or whenever the bike is washed it refuse to start
    and if it starts engine dies after some time it.
    Before shutting off it behaves like fuel is about to finish.
    yesterday it was 4th time earlier it used to start after 2-3mins but it refused to start and i was left standing for about half an hour in peak traffic and it was raining!

    I went to service centre 2 times before this they could not find any thing wrong with it.
    my friend told me it maybe the cdi water maybe getting into it.

    Guys this time before going to SVC i need some help/info to bang on there face to check the things.

    BIKE: Plusar 135LS
    ODO: 6k

    Thanks in advance

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    • #3
      Originally posted by nipunblaze135LS View Post
      Hi!
      i have a problem with my bike, whenever it rains or whenever the bike is washed it refuse to start
      and if it starts engine dies after some time it.
      Before shutting off it behaves like fuel is about to finish.
      yesterday it was 4th time earlier it used to start after 2-3mins but it refused to start and i was left standing for about half an hour in peak traffic and it was raining!

      I went to service centre 2 times before this they could not find any thing wrong with it.
      my friend told me it maybe the cdi water maybe getting into it.

      Guys this time before going to SVC i need some help/info to bang on there face to check the things.

      BIKE: Plusar 135LS
      ODO: 6k

      Thanks in advance
      is your spark plug wire too near to the head??? i mean when its wet, there might be shorting of the plug wire with the head. just check it out!!!!


      if there was water in your cdi then your bike would not have started at all.
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      • #4
        The wire may be getting short, if even it has a minor cut. But I think if the engines shuts down, the fuse may blow off. And only replacing the fuse will start back your bike.
        Kindly let us know, whenever you faced such problem, how did you fix it that time to get it back started.


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        • #5
          I believe it is a battery issue. Get your battery checked!
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          • #6
            check if any water is seeping into your fuel tank... i faced the same issue with P150!
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            • #7
              Originally posted by sunilg View Post
              Query approved.
              Thanks for approving sir!

              Originally posted by ROCKRZ View Post
              is your spark plug wire too near to the head??? i mean when its wet, there might be shorting of the plug wire with the head. just check it out!!!!


              if there was water in your cdi then your bike would not have started at all.
              i checked it, its not too much near it
              i have not checked the cdi, but the bike is starting now running fine.

              Originally posted by rachitkohli View Post
              The wire may be getting short, if even it has a minor cut. But I think if the engines shuts down, the fuse may blow off. And only replacing the fuse will start back your bike.
              Kindly let us know, whenever you faced such problem, how did you fix it that time to get it back started.
              Earlier it used to die after some time of the first crank and when it is started again it used to run fine with no problem
              i used to leave it for about 2-3 mins and after it no issues until the next wash/rain

              Originally posted by kurtrules View Post
              I believe it is a battery issue. Get your battery checked!
              pulsar135LS have a battery indicator problem it just keeps on flashing when the lights are switched on for about 5mins or more but battery is ok when checked with a meter

              @rakesh_zmr
              how can i check it?

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              • #8
                Nipun, I suggest you should just ensure that the wire leading the current from CDi to spark plug is in pink of its health. whate ever I can gather, I would relate this engine dying issue to Short Circuit/ Current leakage.

                See if the wire has any place to leak out the current. If your plug wire is touching the Cylinder, the chances are that it gets melted to some extent and leaks current when wet. Further, I guess Your bike has Twin Spark plug ( kill me if I am wrong, but I can be wrong too! ) so ideally it should not die just because the current from one cable is leaking.

                And also, please elaborate on the term WET. I mean, does it die, just at a drizzle, or under heavy washing or Heavy rains. Further, does it die when the water gets under the tank ( Place where CDi is housed) or just if small moisture gets near the plug.


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                • #9
                  Maybe rainwater getting into fuel tank,Spark Plug Problem!
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                  • #10
                    Please check whether rain water is dripping from the spark plug wire onto the spark plus cap. If it is, please put in couple of rubber bands on the wire to stop flow of water. This is the solution I did for my eliminator.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by dcs View Post
                      Nipun, I suggest you should just ensure that the wire leading the current from CDi to spark plug is in pink of its health. whate ever I can gather, I would relate this engine dying issue to Short Circuit/ Current leakage.

                      See if the wire has any place to leak out the current. If your plug wire is touching the Cylinder, the chances are that it gets melted to some extent and leaks current when wet. Further, I guess Your bike has Twin Spark plug ( kill me if I am wrong, but I can be wrong too! ) so ideally it should not die just because the current from one cable is leaking.

                      And also, please elaborate on the term WET. I mean, does it die, just at a drizzle, or under heavy washing or Heavy rains. Further, does it die when the water gets under the tank ( Place where CDi is housed) or just if small moisture gets near the plug.


                      All cheers
                      dcs
                      I checked all the tings cant fine anything.
                      When it was parked in drizzling it happened
                      under normal wash also(no pressure wash or pouring buckets of water on it)
                      i guess CDI is the only thing because of which its happening.

                      and yes my bike is twin spark
                      Originally posted by haxor View Post
                      Maybe rainwater getting into fuel tank,Spark Plug Problem!
                      how can i check if the water is getting in the fuel tank?
                      fuel lid appears ok to me.

                      Originally posted by trustvishwas View Post
                      Please check whether rain water is dripping from the spark plug wire onto the spark plus cap. If it is, please put in couple of rubber bands on the wire to stop flow of water. This is the solution I did for my eliminator.
                      water is not getting on the spark plugs i checked
                      and it also have a cap which seals the area where the spark plug is housed.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by nipunblaze135LS View Post
                        water is not getting on the spark plugs i checked
                        and it also have a cap which seals the area where the spark plug is housed.
                        Even the cap doesn't necessarily seal the area from water getting in.
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                        • #13
                          I am not sure if this solution is applicable on P135,
                          But some CBZ Xtreme do face this problem (only in Rains) the engine turns off abruptly. This is becaues water seeping into the breather-pipe of the carburettor.
                          Simple solution is that to..remove the breather pipe from the carburettor untill the rain stops.

                          Check if something similar is happening to your bike.
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                          • #14
                            +1 to trustvishwas.

                            CDI UNIT IS THE ANSWER,BELOW THE PETROL TANK,REMOVE IT,CLEAN IT,BLOW IT DRY,RECONNECT.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by trustvishwas View Post
                              Even the cap doesn't necessarily seal the area from water getting in.
                              i mean i checked it yesterday it self, not even a drop there. seals are doing there job well.

                              Originally posted by riazmomin View Post
                              I am not sure if this solution is applicable on P135,
                              But some CBZ Xtreme do face this problem (only in Rains) the engine turns off abruptly. This is because water seeping into the breather-pipe of the carburettor.
                              Simple solution is that to..remove the breather pipe from the carburettor untill the rain stops.

                              Check if something similar is happening to your bike.
                              what exactly is a breather pipe?
                              how to check it?
                              i have two pipes of different size which comes form(i think so) carb and some oil is present on both the pipes.
                              they end near the swing arm.

                              Originally posted by drvmtm View Post
                              +1 to trustvishwas.

                              CDI UNIT IS THE ANSWER,BELOW THE PETROL TANK,REMOVE IT,CLEAN IT,BLOW IT DRY,RECONNECT.
                              I'll learn how to do it when i take it to svc tomorrow.

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