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  • Pulsar 220dtsi Brakes Issue

    I was about to DIE
    Worst scenario faced on my P220dtsi...

    Was going out with my mother at 9.00pm...just driving for an 10 kms ,i was at a speed of 40kmph...suddenly the front wheel got jam...i was so very lucky 2nd time...but this time was very very lucky as my mother was behind me..

    Last time it wasa the rear brake wheel lock and this time the front brake.
    Just 3 days back i got my bike serviced at 17500km service.


    I really feel Bajaj need to work on quality issue than keeping the price low...
    In the coming days Giant players like Honda, Suzuki n Yamaha are all set to rock the Indian Motorcycle Industry...
    My Pulsar 200dtsi was really a very nice bike.


    10 months back
    this was the rear disc jam problem 10 months back....same thing .
    truck was behind me n was lucky to get safe..



    YouTube - Pulsar 220dtsi Rear disc problem


    This time the Front Wheel Jam

    YouTube - Pulsar 220dtsi Front wheel Jam

  • #2
    Query Approved.
    :)

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    • #3
      You need to remove brake callipers, get them serviced ( washed, cleaned ), and replace brake fluid. Its gonna take a lot of time, but it needs to be done for proper and safe braking.

      Generally a choked brake calliper, too dirty will jam suddenly, and not release at all. its very risky, but its also a maintenance issue.


      My offerings to the gods of speed -

      - KTM Duke 200
      - Yamaha RXZ 5 speed


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      • #4
        Does ABS (Anti lock Braking system) put an end to this ?? Its available for 1.8k i think... install it and ride safe

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        • #5
          ^^ not really. What it does is reduce the flow of fluid to the calliper under sudden braking, allowing you to steer the bike, and does not let the wheel lock up.


          My offerings to the gods of speed -

          - KTM Duke 200
          - Yamaha RXZ 5 speed


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          • #6
            Originally posted by jd666 View Post
            ^^ not really. What it does is reduce the flow of fluid to the calliper under sudden braking, allowing you to steer the bike, and does not let the wheel lock up.

            I am on a plan to install it in my P150 ug3.... does it really worth ??

            P.S My bike braking power is so bad.. slight press, it skids well on roads.... esp. rear wheel... i changed brake shoes/tyre and did all sorts of works... but did not help... Hence Gonna try this..

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            • #7
              Ooh, This makes me hesitate to book motorcycles from Bajaj family. I'm scared. Tis my personal opinion though.

              @GoldenEagle19

              Are you doing periodic maintenance?
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              • #8
                I own a P220 too and I face this problem very regularly. Though front if fine but rear tyre runs almost jammed...
                uhh...The Bajaj Quality
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by GoldenEagle19 View Post
                  I was about to DIE
                  Worst scenario faced on my P220dtsi...

                  Was going out with my mother at 9.00pm...just driving for an 10 kms ,i was at a speed of 40kmph...suddenly the front wheel got jam...i was so very lucky 2nd time...but this time was very very lucky as my mother was behind me..

                  Last time it wasa the rear brake wheel lock and this time the front brake.
                  Just 3 days back i got my bike serviced at 17500km service.


                  I really feel Bajaj need to work on quality issue than keeping the price low...
                  In the coming days Giant players like Honda, Suzuki n Yamaha are all set to rock the Indian Motorcycle Industry...
                  My Pulsar 200dtsi was really a very nice bike.


                  10 months back
                  this was the rear disc jam problem 10 months back....same thing .
                  truck was behind me n was lucky to get safe..



                  YouTube - Pulsar 220dtsi Rear disc problem


                  This time the Front Wheel Jam

                  YouTube - Pulsar 220dtsi Front wheel Jam
                  This usually happens after disk brake oil or brake pads have been changed. It could also be a result of air bubbles in the feed line too. Its happened with me too with CBZ after I got it serviced at the local mechanic. Please note that it happened only when the bike and the disc was hot. After bleeding some gear oil from the line, the wheel moved freely to only lock-up again later.

                  Originally posted by Swaroopce View Post
                  Does ABS (Anti lock Braking system) put an end to this ?? Its available for 1.8k i think... install it and ride safe
                  Nope it wont.

                  Originally posted by whizzkid_ram View Post
                  Ooh, This makes me hesitate to book motorcycles from Bajaj family. I'm scared. Tis my personal opinion though.

                  This has happened with my CBZ too, so you can rule out booking HH too. These are isolated, one-off incidents, which can happen with any bike regardless of the brand. So chill. BTW did you ever own a Bajaj and have really bad experience or is your decision based on heresay?

                  @GoldenEagle19

                  Are you doing periodic maintenance?
                  Originally posted by enfro View Post
                  I own a P220 too and I face this problem very regularly. Though front if fine but rear tyre runs almost jammed...
                  uhh...The Bajaj Quality
                  Not all mechanics can work on disc brakes and rectify issues. For eg. the mechanic in the video above is reckless while handling the issue. That is definitely not the way to check/rectify/resolve a jammed wheel issue because of the disc brake. Once you get it serviced professionally, the issue is resolved. And its not specific to P220.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Omega Man View Post
                    This has happened with my CBZ too, so you can rule out booking HH too. These are isolated, one-off incidents, which can happen with any bike regardless of the brand. So chill. BTW did you ever own a Bajaj and have really bad experience or is your decision based on heresay?
                    Lol. Nope My friend also had this issue in his 220 even though he maintains his steed very well. In addition, this thread also scared me a lot about bajaj's reliability.
                    B o D a C i O u S

                    Wander logue

                    Grand Southern Raid | Munnar | Yercaud | Ootacamund

                    The increase in performance is directly proportional to the size of the hole in your pocket :D

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by GoldenEagle19 View Post
                      I was about to DIE
                      Worst scenario faced on my P220dtsi...

                      Was going out with my mother at 9.00pm...just driving for an 10 kms ,i was at a speed of 40kmph...suddenly the front wheel got jam...i was so very lucky 2nd time...but this time was very very lucky as my mother was behind me..

                      Last time it wasa the rear brake wheel lock and this time the front brake.
                      Just 3 days back i got my bike serviced at 17500km service.


                      I really feel Bajaj need to work on quality issue than keeping the price low...
                      In the coming days Giant players like Honda, Suzuki n Yamaha are all set to rock the Indian Motorcycle Industry...
                      My Pulsar 200dtsi was really a very nice bike.


                      10 months back
                      this was the rear disc jam problem 10 months back....same thing .
                      truck was behind me n was lucky to get safe..



                      YouTube - Pulsar 220dtsi Rear disc problem


                      This time the Front Wheel Jam

                      YouTube - Pulsar 220dtsi Front wheel Jam

                      try rebuilding your master cylinder's.usually under hard braking, the seals get scratched in the cylinder loosing their polished surface resulting in blocking the cylinder & adding pressure to the brake lines.the kit cost about rs 250.
                      Last edited by BOND_001; 11-29-2010, 12:13 AM.

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                      • #12
                        Maybe before we start accusing the brand, we should try to understand the causes? It looks to me that this might be a maintenance issue, would that be a possibility ?

                        GoldenEagle you just did the servicing of the bike 3 days before this happened, but how often do you check your brakes?

                        I won a P200 and as a rule of thumb, the brakes are always checked at every servicing. If the mechanic doesn't plan on doing it, I make sure to ask. Every 2 servicings or whenever I feel like it's beena while I haven't looked into them, I have the mechanic clean the pads (rear drum), check the front brake's lever and cable, and of course I always look at the fluid level.

                        Specially after longer rides than usual, or rides in off road/dirt roads conditions, or when I feel I had to use the brakes more than the usual for whatever reason.

                        Agreed this is a very sensitive part you don't want anything funny to happen to it, but I don't think this an issue with the brand, or the manufacturing. But it could be interesting to contact Bajaj about this incident and get a comment from them on this..

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                        • #13
                          Not "might be" but this is definitely a maintenance issue. I have a Pulsar and its been 3 years the disc brake has never jammed this way. Please refrain from making comments about the quality a manufacturer provides. Rather comment on how the vehicle is maintained.

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                          • #14
                            even in my experience of riding a P220 that's clocked 40K kms in 3 years, I never faced any such issue. All I do is check the breaks immediately after I start riding, by squeezing the lever & pedal a bit...if any of them is squeaking, or a noise some out, then I will get back & try to loosen the nut with a wrench [just half a turn]...otherwise I go to mechanic to reset the caliper-gap in the discs...try checking the same...in monsoon, you will hear the squeaking sound a bit, from normal discs, but unless it's really loud enough, you shouldn't change the pads...hope this helps...

                            Motorsport is fun. Safety is a mandate. Be in shape & ride long

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