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  • Spark Plug going bad in Apache Rtr 160

    I have an apache Rtr 160 2007 .... off lately my bike keeps giving trouble... every 2 weeks or so the bike just wont start... when i get it checked the spark plug is the culprit... the mechanic cleans it and the bike starts off as normal but the next day the spark plug goes off again... so i tried changing the spark plug... With the new plug it works fine for another 2 weeks and exactly same thing happens... I have already changed the spark plug thrice... please help... i have been using Bosch sparkplug....
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  • #2
    Query approved.
    (Been There Done That) x 3.25

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    • #3
      What's the color of the spark plug? If its tard black then its running rich & then getting fouled. The mechanic is probably cleaning off the carbon deposits that prevent it from getting combusted properly inside the cylinder & then the vehicle starts. Pls post some pics of your plug when your motorcycle doesn't start. That is, before cleaning.

      BTW, do you've a carb or Fi model of 160?
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      • #4
        Mine is RTR carb... will be posting pics soon as i have kept the blown out spark plug today and have kept it...
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        • #5
          Originally posted by redlogo2089 View Post
          Mine is RTR carb
          Can you also describe how this issue started? Is there anything specific you did or did this happen after a service or any specific event?
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          • #6
            Here are images of my spark plug...





            As for how the problem started.... I had given my bike for service to a mechanic in December. After the service the bike was running fine till mid feb. and then the problem started when i tried to start my bike in the morning, it wont start. Took it to mechanic, he cleaned the spark plug and all was fine. Exact same thing happened the next day. so i thought lets change the spark plug. It ran fine for 2 weeks and exact same problem..

            Also when i took my bike to mechanic this time he was saying that bike has too much current... is something like that possible...
            Last edited by redlogo2089; 03-20-2011, 12:16 PM.
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            • #7
              Sorry pal, the pics aren't clear, but I could make out that the plug is tard black.

              this time he was saying that bike has too much current... is something like that possible
              Possible when the plug gets more current from the ignition coil. Anyway, I'd suggest you tune the carb with a different mechanic or from TVS.A.S.S, run it for sometime & see if the issue still persists. If it does, then take to next level by troubleshooting with ignition coil, CDI & so on.
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              Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
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              • #8
                Originally posted by redlogo2089 View Post
                Here are images of my spark plug...



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                As for how the problem started.... I had given my bike for service to a mechanic in December. After the service the bike was running fine till mid feb. and then the problem started when i tried to start my bike in the morning, it wont start. Took it to mechanic, he cleaned the spark plug and all was fine. Exact same thing happened the next day. so i thought lets change the spark plug. It ran fine for 2 weeks and exact same problem..

                Also when i took my bike to mechanic this time he was saying that bike has too much current... is something like that possible...
                it is due to fouling in the combustion chamber, check the a/f ratio and get it adjusted ,fouling is mainly due to rich mixture and wat mileage are you getting.

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                • #9
                  i'm getting close to 40km/l.... will get the a/f ratio tuned from different mech...
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                  • #10
                    are you using the correct spark plug ? rtr uses a twin electrode bosch plug , yours looks like single one in the pic .

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by redlogo2089 View Post
                      i'm getting close to 40km/l.... will get the a/f ratio tuned from different mech...
                      Your mileage is low and the plug is fouled......But RTR comes with UR5 DDC with twin ground electrode,and your pic shows normal single electrode plug.
                      After riding the bike for 10 Kms take out the plug and see..If the black deposit is wet and oily it shows you are getting engine oil into the chamber..if it is dry black then it means rich AF mix.
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                      • #12
                        But RTR comes with UR5 DDC with twin ground electrode
                        PSR ji or someone...education on the above pls? Tks.
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                        Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
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                        • #13
                          check out the spark plugs thread.........link is given in my signature.... read the first page thouroughly........check the troubleshooting pics and compare your plug.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by redlogo2089 View Post
                            Here are images of my spark plug...



                            SP_A0600 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

                            As for how the problem started.... I had given my bike for service to a mechanic in December. After the service the bike was running fine till mid feb. and then the problem started when i tried to start my bike in the morning, it wont start. Took it to mechanic, he cleaned the spark plug and all was fine. Exact same thing happened the next day. so i thought lets change the spark plug. It ran fine for 2 weeks and exact same problem..

                            Also when i took my bike to mechanic this time he was saying that bike has too much current... is something like that possible...
                            I had the same prob....and the spark plug would get black every 3rd or 4th day..& bike wont start..changed spark plug..again the problem started after 1 week n the bike wont start....
                            wrote a mail to TVS..Teritry mngr came..inspected..opened the engine as there was some spot which was getting charred n giving extra carbon deposit on the spark plug...may be you might be having the same problem..go to ASC n take their class n it should be sorted..

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                            • #15
                              Just got the bike checked by a mechanic (a reliable one)... he said that there is smoke coming out of the silencer... also to solve the problem he needs to do some reboring with piston and all... he is quoting that it will cost around 2-2.5k.... does this make any sense to you guys... if yes please enlighten...
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