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i have tested cbr abs version... i felt its not worth..
why?.... coz at speed of 100kmph,. when i pushed rear brake so hard... bike gone like someone has put oil in rear disk.. bike wasnt ready to stop at all... maybe u can meet with accident but bike will never stop becouse abs doesnt want u to skid your rear tyre :P
so.. if you are so afraid of riding fast... and fear breaking... u shuld buy activa or something like that

@kecha: ABS is really good bro.............but before installing it you need to fully understand its working......

there are two types of ABS---mechanical and electronic

in electronic ABS there are a lot of sensors, which check the vehicle speed and wheel rotation speed and fed these inputs to a microprocessor continuasly which decides when a wheel lock is going to happen and is unavoidable, just at that moment microprocessor intervens and takes control of brakiing and it either reduces or removes braking input for a fraction of second and reaplies it and then continuasly modulates braking power, applying maximum possible braking power without wheel locking.

mechanical ABS on the other hand is much simple and cheaper with obviously much less capability than electronic ABS. in mechanical ABS, there is a valve which modulates the braking power by a bypass kind of action. it obviously can not sense vehicle speed and neither it can sense wheel rotation speed, so obviously it can not sense when a wheel lock is going to happen. then how does it prevent wheel locking. the designers have designed it in a such a way if too much braking force is applies too suddenly, wheel lock is going to happen and it diverts some of the brake fluid away. designers have found out the exact point at which too much force applied too suddenly causes wheel locking and this mechanical valve helps prevent you from acheiving that point.

so, mechanical ABS is not as affective as electronic ABS, but is definitely effective in preventing wheel locking.

saferide ABS is a mechanical ABS.

when you install is initially you may feel a bit jittery when applying brake. but thats the way it functions.

do not expect mechanical ABS to perform as good as electronic ABS or C-ABS, but it does its job pretty well.

converting you rear wheel to disc and installing mechanical ABS in rear wheel too is your decision.

i will suggest you first install it in front wheel and use it for a few days and if you like it then go for rear.

one more thing, i want to tell you, when you install it in front wheel, initially you will not like it, so my suggestion is that, even if you don't like it initially, still use it for a few months and your perception may change.

i think you should go for it and i guess the mechanical ABS would be enough on the front disc itself
I cant comment on the CBR 250's ABS as i havnt ridden it. Although the main function of ABS is to stop the tyre from locking up and skidding because when a tyre locks up and skids , the braking distance is increased, so as you said , the tyre SHOULD NOT skid and lock up

thanks for your response guys.. and Yes i do understand the difference between mechanical ABS and electrical ABS which is controlled by an ECU. I also understand that mechanical ABS and electrical ABS are not same. By i feel mechanical ABS is better than the stock brakes without any ABS. since your replies are positive as far as its effeciency is concerned over stock ones i am going to go for it on the front disk first. will try rear only if it gives me confidence because first of all i do not know a mechanic who can install a rear disk brake in pulsar successfully so doesnt wish to take all the risks together.

Can some chennai people suggest a very good knowledgeable mechanic who can install this ABS system effectively in my bike? I wish to get that done from any area inside chennai.

Safe ride is help-full in only one condition i.e. When you apply brakes with max force, suddenly, and keep the brakes pressed..
But it can increase your stopping distance if you use "Set-up & squeez technique"
all in all its got some limitations too...
Decision's yours bro..
Good luck.

Though I have not tested the cbr-abs version, I find it hard enough to agree on your point. Please go through the below info and the RED LINES IN CAPS is the sure-shot reason why you felt the engine oil on the disc plates.

To begin with, an Anti-Lock Braking System incorporates computerized sensors to determine when a wheel is on the verge of locking-up. It then gives instant instructions to the brakes to release and re-apply braking pressure (pumping) a whole bunch of times per second, while you are steadily engaging the brakes.


What results is slowing and/or stopping without skidding. (A skidding tire has less traction than one that is not skidding).


And they are very easy to use. In an emergency situation on an ABS bike, just apply the brakes hard! Do not manually pump your brakes (YOU SEEM TO HAVE DONE SIMILAR PUMPING ).




On the other hand, many experienced riders can bring their non-ABS bike to a stop faster you do that under the stress of a life-threatening, panic-braking scenario? And even more to the point, how refined are your emergency braking skills on wet or dirty roads?

Well, i too was in the same thought as our ts. Afterall, something is better than nothing, isn't it..? Plus, i ve had 2 spills till date due to improper braking.

but i ve a few doubts.

1. Will this thing, in any chance, affect braking in any adverse manner..? Like loss of bite or extended stopping distance..?

2. Can the installation process be a diy job..? (saw a video on youtube. Looked simple. Just bolt it in, and bleed to remove air lock. No tuning or calibration)

yes, it is a DIY job.

ah..! Thats great.

One more thing, the saferide website says the brake fluid may/will have to to be fully replaced.

Why is that..?

Thanks for all your replies.

I understand this reacts different under two type of braking situations. Let me try to explain so please let me know if my understanding is correct.
1.) When the brake lever is pressed and hold continuously without leaving it: Here, this device tries to delay the locking wheel and give more control and also reduces the braking distance.
2.) When the brake lever is pressed and released several times in few seconds: Here it increases the braking distance.
Am i correct?


Now, Let me try to explain my driving style :
I try pressing and releasing the brake lever several times in a second under normal and controlled braking situations but when a situation of sudden braking occurs like a car going in front of me (on a medium traffic) suddenly stops and here it is kinda like a small panic braking here i press and hold the brake lever continuously since here your brain dont work much.. so no need to explain under severe panic situations since obviously there most people try to hold the brakes.
So now will this ABS provide a better braking solution to me? or if i need to change the driving style how should i change?

I think its to release the air from the brake line through where the brake fluid flows. so drain fully and fill it up..

what you are saying is partially correct, but you need to improve your braking style, as it is not correct. if you want to retain your braking style, this ABS may not be benifitial to you.

Can you please explain me how? so that i can understand how it works.