Since '02 xBhp is different things to different people. From a close knit national community of bikers to India's only motorcycling lifestyle magazine and a place to make like-minded biker friends. Join us

Castrol Power 1

Practice slow-speed riding.

Our Partner

Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Myth or Truth: Yamaha FZ 16 rampant rear tyre problem??

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Myth or Truth: Yamaha FZ 16 rampant rear tyre problem??

    Hi All,

    this is my first thread in this community so pardon the pun, if this question has been repeated again and again. i am going crazy over picking up my new yamaha fz 16 in mumbai expected to be delivered in a week. however, i have heard numerous complaints of rear tyre getting punctured more often than compared to any other bike in the same category.

    I have heard that the rear alloy rim is of inferior quality and under certain circumstances the rim bends easily, resulting in tyre pressure loss and hence, making punctures inevitable since the tyres on this bike are tubeless.

    I would like to get advice/ suggestions on how to tackle this problem and also tips on what to inspect on my bike before taking the keys, papers and handing over the final cheque to the dealer and avoid getting mugged in round 1.

    i am taking the bike from Kamla Yamaha, Lower Parel, Mumbai. So any fellow bikers willing to share their ownership experiences in dealing with these dealers will really help me a lot.


    cheers
    A quote by a toilet, " use me well, keep me clean, i would never tell anybody whatever i have seen.." :P

  • #2
    Query Approved.
    :)

    Comment


    • #3
      Myth!

      Most people that crib are the ones who are ignorant about thier tyres.
      The FZ has fat arse tyres and I have seen a lot of people who just look at the tyre and assume it to be with proper pressure. Riding the bike with low pressure leads to damage RIMs in the kind of roads we get.
      Super CommuTOURer� - Talk less, Ride more

      .: FB :.|.: TW :.|*IG*| Ex
      PowerDrift:.

      #Give thy opinion, write em, dont throw em
      #Everyone errs, accept it, defending/cribbing about it only makes it worse
      #Dont defend a manufacturer as if you work for them
      #Write. Think. If relevant hit submit. If not hit yourself
      #Be kind in your choice of words, you never know who would make you gulp em
      � Satyen Poojary

      Comment


      • #4
        Modern day Cars come with pedestrian safety, in which the front of the Car is designed such that in case of an impact, the pedestrian won't be hurt gravely.

        Similarly, Yamaha's alloy wheels are rigid upto a point. Post which they bend/break easily and take the impact in case of a crash.

        I have used R15/FZ's over 30K and yet to see a rim-bend issue. I would advise you to buy a foot-pump(~Rs.400) and check the rear tire pressure religiously, at least twice a week.

        You may check the below thread and use the search feature for your other queries.
        Last edited by sheelpriye; 09-13-2010, 04:07 PM.

        Comment


        • #5
          that is not specific with the fz or the r15.. ita a norm for any tubeless bike..

          the sealing occurs at the sides of the rim as weel as on the radius of the rim. if there is any impact (even a minor one) taken by the rim, the rim bend ever so slightly that you wont notice. but thats the cause of the sealing failure and then people start complaining that the rim is defective..
          one or two pieces of rims ever reach with the pressurisation failure rest is all exagerated.
          to relate this, I tried to get the tubeless fitted on my bike. i got the rim smoothened, straightened etc etc. but still the tubeless does not retain the pressure so simply put a tube and running the bike with the tube.
          the point is any rim that is once damaged or bent, is unfit for the tubeless. and on our pothole riden roads (or i should say road ridden potholes) this is next to impossible if you dont get a bent rim in a couple of weeks if your riding is a bit enthusiastic.
          Suffering from Parked Motorcycle Syndrome

          Cant ride ? read this..
          http://MechMarvels.wordpress.com

          Repair manuals for Hero honda Hunk
          https://www.xbhp.com/talkies/do-your...eneration.html

          Comment


          • #6
            Originally posted by shv18 View Post
            Hi All,

            this is my first thread in this community so pardon the pun, if this question has been repeated again and again. i am going crazy over picking up my new yamaha fz 16 in mumbai expected to be delivered in a week. however, i have heard numerous complaints of rear tyre getting punctured more often than compared to any other bike in the same category.

            I have heard that the rear alloy rim is of inferior quality and under certain circumstances the rim bends easily, resulting in tyre pressure loss and hence, making punctures inevitable since the tyres on this bike are tubeless.

            I would like to get advice/ suggestions on how to tackle this problem and also tips on what to inspect on my bike before taking the keys, papers and handing over the final cheque to the dealer and avoid getting mugged in round 1.

            i am taking the bike from Kamla Yamaha, Lower Parel, Mumbai. So any fellow bikers willing to share their ownership experiences in dealing with these dealers will really help me a lot.


            cheers

            hey dude first of all congrats for your new bike. Regarding the rear Tyre I would like to say that always check the air pressure from a good Tyre service center such as Bridgestone, Ceat etc. and slow down when going on from a pot hole. Avoid big pot holes. Considering this things you can avoid punctures and bend rims. And removing punctures on Tubeless tyre are possible which are known as mushroom puncture technique.

            Take a post delivery inspection of your bike keeping following points in mind

            - Check Headlight (Upper/Dipper)
            - Check tail light
            - Turn signals (Front & rear)
            - LCD Unit including Signal indicators
            - All Switches on the bikes
            - Check for scratches on tank and silencer if any

            Following papers should be checked from dealer

            - Certificate of Taxation
            - Receipt of Registration
            - Insurance
            - Octroi Receipt
            - Service Manuel
            - User Manuel

            * Follow the Run - in Period ( before completing 1000 KM never cross 60 km/hr and keep the engine speed below 4500 RPM)
            * don't rev the engine necessarily
            * use choke for cold start
            * use normal petrol
            * For any technical issues go to Authorized Yamaha service center & don't go for any local mechanic.

            Happy Riding....
            Last edited by Yamaha FZ; 09-18-2010, 12:02 AM.

            Comment


            • #7
              trust me dude.. i have ridden pothole roads all the 1yr 3months of my fz's life.. i maintain tyre pressure and check twice a week and i got no rim bends or anything. i have done some high speed potholes too and would hurriedly check my rim but nothing has gone wrong till date(god bless lol). as long as you maintain tyre pressure everything is sure gonna be fine. you tend to get more punctures cause the contact area of our rear tyre is almost twice that of any other bike.. so more chances. till date i have had 3. 3 in a year sounds not so big deal to me.
              Regardless, Life shall go on.

              Comment


              • #8
                owned an fz16 for 15k kms...its damn good for city rides..but coming to the point its a disaster waiting to happen if ridden on pot holed roads..in the whole year of having that bike,i got to k now all the rim benders in my city..theres a damn pothole in my colony.i kind of forget about its presence every time..so after going through it for a couple of times my rim got bent..not fully bent but somewhat.my 220 went through it more than couple of times its still fine.
                and yes my air pressure as well as the other bikes i mentioned are upto date

                even on my tours where my friends had fz's,their rims used to get bent or broke all the time...where other bikes like rtrs,220s ,zmas where all fine..even r15's sometimes have these probs too..do a self test if you like..go over a pothole at40 or 60 or 80kmph on a 220 and an fz and check the rims..you'd know the answer..pretty much sure but since its a low profile tyre,its bound to happen..and low profile tyre + low air pressure = big bad bent rim ...my friends and i had to sell our fzs as this was a major factor combined with the odd mileage..

                however all other fz owners are lucky if though they did go on such bad roads,their rims are fit and sturdy just make sure you go very very slow on bad roads and all is good

                @ spunk..you remember the pictures i posted in orkut in our community 3 punctures in 1 year..i dint have any puncture since i started riding a bike..that would be 5 years till now (touch-wood)

                and prasenjith willing to file a case against the rear rim ..lolz...

                here is the thread:

                orkut -

                Yamaha/fz16 Complaints - Substandart Spare Parts


                heres a video :

                YouTube - yamaha fz 16 bent rim.3gp
                Last edited by satan69in; 09-18-2010, 11:44 AM.
                I RuLe Da HeAvEn, I RuLe Da heLL,I RuLe Da UnIvErSe, As HuMaNiTy FeLL

                sigpic

                http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#Profile?...79612188840642

                http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/...00000077242611

                Comment


                • #9
                  Originally posted by satan69in View Post
                  even on my tours where my friends had fz's,their rims used to get bent or broke all the time...where other bikes like rtrs,220s ,zmas where all fine..even r15's sometimes have these probs too..do a self test if you like..go over a pothole at40 or 60 or 80kmph on a 220 and an fz and check the rims..you'd know the answer..pretty much sure but since its a low profile tyre,its bound to happen..and low profile tyre + low air pressure = big bad bent rim ...my friends and i had to sell our fzs as this was a major factor combined with the odd mileage..
                  Originally posted by sheelpriye View Post
                  Modern day Cars come with pedestrian safety, in which the front of the Car is designed such that in case of an impact, the pedestrian won't be hurt gravely.

                  Similarly, Yamaha's alloy wheels are rigid upto a point. Post which they bend/break easily and take the impact in case of a crash.

                  I have used R15/FZ's over 30K and yet to see a rim-bend issue.
                  You have the pics to prove that it got bent, all I can say is a wee bit slower and not 'crashing' into potholes would have solved the problem.

                  We all know what build quality Yamaha India boasts of, this isn't a quality glitch, the rims are made that way.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by sheelpriye View Post
                    You have the pics to prove that it got bent, all I can say is a wee bit slower and not 'crashing' into potholes would have solved the problem.

                    We all know what build quality Yamaha India boasts of, this isn't a quality glitch, the rims are made that way.
                    yes i agree with you..but its kinda not expected to suddenly find a large hole (forget hole...assume a speed breaker) on a perfectly laid road..so its kind of difficult to slow down at current speeds.even if decelerated to a certain extent,as i said before in my previous post,even passing through that obstruction at 40 kmph leads to a bend...

                    i am not saying that fz rims are totally bad..as i am not the designer of them,but when the same bad road is taken by other bikes such as 220 or zma etc,their rims are holding up the impact and the max damage they have got is some chipped paint...if the rims of fz or r15(in some cases) cant hold up such kind of roads where other bikes can,then IMO i feel its kind of dangerous and not really worth it...but hey,if your city roads are good then i repeat that fz beats all other commuter bikes and even the biggies in handling department and can be taken with eyes closed(provided you dont care for mileage that is)
                    I RuLe Da HeAvEn, I RuLe Da heLL,I RuLe Da UnIvErSe, As HuMaNiTy FeLL

                    sigpic

                    http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#Profile?...79612188840642

                    http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/...00000077242611

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by satan69in View Post
                      yes i agree with you..but its kinda not expected to suddenly find a large hole (forget hole...assume a speed breaker) on a perfectly laid road..so its kind of difficult to slow down at current speeds.even if decelerated to a certain extent,as i said before in my previous post,even passing through that obstruction at 40 kmph leads to a bend...

                      i am not saying that fz rims are totally bad..as i am not the designer of them,but when the same bad road is taken by other bikes such as 220 or zma etc,their rims are holding up the impact and the max damage they have got is some chipped paint...if the rims of fz or r15(in some cases) cant hold up such kind of roads where other bikes can,then IMO i feel its kind of dangerous and not really worth it...but hey,if your city roads are good then i repeat that fz beats all other commuter bikes and even the biggies in handling department and can be taken with eyes closed(provided you dont care for mileage that is)
                      I don't think roads would be any worse anywhere in India wrt to my place(Bihar in full glory)

                      Yes, I have suddenly come across potholes on the 15 and FZ, awesome dynamics, lively brakes saves your a$$ and rims, if it still is unavoidable, I simply stand on the pegs and hope for the best.

                      I had exchanged my R15/'Zma with a FZ guy(a very good rider)and he sure had a hard time keeping up with me till 80kmph(this is what you do most of the time in city confines).

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by sheelpriye View Post
                        I don't think roads would be any worse anywhere in India wrt to my place(Bihar in full glory)

                        Yes, I have suddenly come across potholes on the 15 and FZ, awesome dynamics, lively brakes saves your a$$ and rims, if it still is unavoidable, I simply stand on the pegs.

                        I had exchanged my R15/'Zma with a FZ guy(a very good rider)and he sure had a hard time keeping up with me till 80kmph(this is what you do most of the time in city confines).
                        oooooh man,come to Hyderabad..after a tour in the city you will be so rattled that you have to drink tequila to settle down

                        even braking and standing on pegs cant help sometimes ...bound to go through one.. million possibilities..

                        fz is good upto 80 or 90kmph..then it takes its toll..pity i can never ride an r15 as i am too huge for it i had a zma too..the 1st version
                        I RuLe Da HeAvEn, I RuLe Da heLL,I RuLe Da UnIvErSe, As HuMaNiTy FeLL

                        sigpic

                        http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#Profile?...79612188840642

                        http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/...00000077242611

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by satan69in View Post
                          oooooh man,come to Hyderabad..after a tour in the city you will be so rattled that you have to drink tequila to settle down

                          even braking and standing on pegs cant help sometimes ...bound to go through one.. million possibilities..

                          fz is good upto 80 or 90kmph..then it takes its toll..pity i can never ride an r15 as i am too huge for it i had a zma too..the 1st version
                          Oh! and I thought only Pune roads are rattled

                          BTW...the mad rippers here at Pune, our very own twitter boy a.k.a Ankit and Baal ki Dukan a.k.a Rishabh have been found clocking between 110-115 on their FZs time and again.
                          Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and then beat you with experience.

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Originally posted by niranjanvaidya View Post
                            Oh! and I thought only Pune roads are rattled

                            BTW...the mad rippers here at Pune, our very own twitter boy a.k.a Ankit and Baal ki Dukan a.k.a Rishabh have been found clocking between 110-115 on their FZs time and again.
                            lolz..i weigh 98 am 6'1...you expect my poor fz to go beyond 110?? it touched 113 till now thats it

                            i meant to say that it accelerates quite well till 90kmph then its takes a long time to reach its respective top ends
                            I RuLe Da HeAvEn, I RuLe Da heLL,I RuLe Da UnIvErSe, As HuMaNiTy FeLL

                            sigpic

                            http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#Profile?...79612188840642

                            http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/...00000077242611

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Originally posted by satan69in View Post
                              lolz..i weigh 98 am 6'1...you expect my poor fz to go beyond 110?? it touched 113 till now thats it

                              i meant to say that it accelerates quite well till 90kmph then its takes a long time to reach its respective top ends
                              HAHAHA...with all these parameters in mind, the performance figures are justified.
                              Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and then beat you with experience.

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X