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  • #16
    OK.. I read everything. First of all.. Where exactly did you get the bike serviced? I know 2 Honda Service centers in Pune... JM Road(Pashankar)near Shivajinagar Bus Stand and Tilak road(???) Near Swargate. Out of these.. the better one is definitely The one at Tilak Road.

    Secondly... How many km has your bike run till date(Odometer reading)? The tik-tik-tik noise coming from the engine is due to loose tappets. You Should never touch the timing chain before you have completed 25kish. So the approach of the Service center person was correct... The implementation was wrong(I guess). Also, idling settings go haywire after timing chain is adjusted. That might be the reason why the bike is shutting down when you pull the clutch and allow the revs to drop below 1000 RPM.

    Thirdly does the sound from the front brake sound like the one which comes from a bicycle brake? Or does it sound like a metal-on-metal grind? If it is the former, there is not much to worry about.. The sound usually comes in humid climate (aka monsoons). But if it is the latter, the brake usually loses its progressive nature and becomes jerky. Confirm which of the 2 is happening. Try to feel the shape of the disc(when cold) with your finger. If it feels like:

    || - i.e. both sides of the disc feel straight, then there is no issue with the brake. You can ignore the sound.. it will go away when the rains end.

    )( OR )| OR |( - i.e. One or both sides have a slight curve, then you are looking at major part replacement.. namely the Disc AND the brake pads.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by antz.bin View Post
      OK.. I read everything. First of all.. Where exactly did you get the bike serviced? - {Shivaji Nagar} I know 2 Honda Service centers in Pune... JM Road(Pashankar)near Shivajinagar Bus Stand and Tilak road(???) Near swargate. Out of these.. the better one is definitely The one at Tilak Road. {OK}

      Secondly... How many km has your bike run till date(Odometer reading)? {9680} The tik-tik-tik noise coming from the engine is due to loose tappets.{OK} You Should never touch the timing chain before you have completed 25kish. {What can I carryout for the timing chain} So the approach of the Service center person was correct... The implementation was wrong(I guess). {Right} Also, idling settings go haywire after timing chain is adjusted. That might be the reason why the bike is shutting down when you pull the clutch and allow the revs to drop below 1000 RPM. {Correct}

      Thirdly does the sound from the front brake sound like the one which comes from a bicycle brake? Or does it sound like a metal-on-metal grind? If it is the former, there is not much to worry about.. The sound usually comes in humid climate (aka monsoons). But if it is the latter, the brake usually loses its progressive nature and becomes jerky. Confirm which of the 2 is happening. Try to feel the shape of the disc(when cold) with your finger. If it feels like: {Will change the pads after the rains. Its because of the rains}

      || - i.e. both sides of the disc feel straight, then there is no issue with the brake. You can ignore the sound.. it will go away when the rains end.

      )( OR )| OR |( - i.e. One or both sides have a slight curve, then you are looking at major part replacement.. namely the Disc AND the brake pads.
      Let me know if you know any honda engine specialist who can get all these problems done. Thanks

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      • #18
        i do have kind of similar engine problem. whenever i use engine breaking a kind of strange metallic noise comes from the engine apart from the usual engine sound like khar khar khar ...what might be the reason??? it started to happen after i changed the ring piston of my cbz xtreme

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        • #19
          Originally posted by ShahriarXtreme View Post
          i do have kind of similar engine problem. whenever i use engine breaking a kind of strange metallic noise comes from the engine apart from the usual engine sound like khar khar khar ...what might be the reason??? it started to happen after i changed the ring piston of my cbz xtreme
          The Reason may be due to the piston ring not properly installed. You need to get checked it once again and see if there is problem with the piston or some other part.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by unicornrider View Post
            The Reason may be due to the piston ring not properly installed. You need to get checked it once again and see if there is problem with the piston or some other part.
            +1
            piston rings are not properly installed. Happened with me too.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by unicornrider View Post
              The Reason may be due to the piston ring not properly installed. You need to get checked it once again and see if there is problem with the piston or some other part.
              Originally posted by Honda_CBF View Post
              +1
              piston rings are not properly installed. Happened with me too.
              thanks bro....i'll check it as soon as i can.......but i have already driven it for more than 600kms....will it cause any harm to my engine???
              that means my engine has to be opened again???
              Last edited by ShahriarXtreme; 08-19-2011, 04:28 PM.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by ShahriarXtreme View Post
                that means my engine has to be opened again???
                ya you need to get it opened. If the rings are/is loose then only rare chance of damages.. But if the ring is broken then it'll cause severe damage.. So get it done asap and dont exceed 3-4k rpm for now.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Honda_CBF View Post
                  ya you need to get it opened. If the rings are/is loose then only rare chance of damages.. But if the ring is broken then it'll cause severe damage.. So get it done asap and dont exceed 3-4k rpm for now.
                  bro one of the mechanic said its the problem with tappets & timing chain.can it be true?? suppose if the rings are broken then what kind of damage am i taking into account?? from day1 i'm having problem with this bike, dont know whats waiting for me in the future.
                  i may get it done tomorrow.shall i rely on the mechanic or shall i tell them to open up the engine?

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                  • #24
                    Bro dont worry,I had same experience,when opened the engine one of the rings was missing! ,replaced piston rings and no issues till now,me too guess its a tappet prob and will be solved after adjusting it!

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
                      Bro dont worry,I had same experience,when opened the engine one of the rings was missing! ,replaced piston rings and no issues till now,me too guess its a tappet prob and will be solved after adjusting it!
                      bro you are here again to help me
                      bro why shouldn't i be worried?? you know how many problems occured?? so what should i do?? adjust tappet & timing chain first or open the engine??

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by ShahriarXtreme View Post
                        bro you are here again to help me
                        bro why shouldn't i be worried?? you know how many problems occured?? so what should i do?? adjust tappet & timing chain first or open the engine??
                        In order to check timing chain,you have to open the engine,So firstly get the Tappet Adjusted from a good SVC. If the problem still remsins after that we will open the engine!

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                        • #27
                          This work can be done by opening the engine cap. because the tappets and timing chain are placed at the top. So first you need to start from the top and then if still the problem persists you can go with your whole engine work.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by ShahriarXtreme View Post
                            bro one of the mechanic said its the problem with tappets & timing chain.can it be true?? suppose if the rings are broken then what kind of damage am i taking into account?? from day1 i'm having problem with this bike, dont know whats waiting for me in the future.
                            i may get it done tomorrow.shall i rely on the mechanic or shall i tell them to open up the engine?
                            You earlier said, the sound was like khar.. khar.. khar.. so it seems because of loose rings (tappets or valves used to sound like kat kat kat kat or kach kach kach).
                            if the rings are broken they will screw the cylinder walls (bore) by scratches.

                            Originally posted by unicornrider View Post
                            This work can be done by opening the engine cap. because the tappets and timing chain are placed at the top. So first you need to start from the top and then if still the problem persists you can go with your whole engine work.
                            Ya this can be done..
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Honda_CBF View Post
                              You earlier said, the sound was like khar.. khar.. khar.. so it seems because of loose rings (tappets or valves used to sound like kat kat kat kat or kach kach kach).
                              if the rings are broken they will screw the cylinder walls (bore) by scratches.



                              Ya this can be done..
                              thanks bro for the reply....by the way these kind of sound occurs only when i use engine breaking......if i use clutch or accelerate no more unusual sound....

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by ShahriarXtreme View Post
                                thanks bro for the reply....by the way these kind of sound occurs only when i use engine breaking......if i use clutch or accelerate no more unusual sound....
                                i think that sound is always present it is just more audible while engine braking.. (correct me if wrong)
                                I'm assuming this because few week ago i got my scoot re-bored it used to sound same as yours, while engine braking it was audible to all road users but while riding normally only i use to hear it
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