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  • #16
    Originally posted by Deepakumar
    These Bloody HH service people broke front Headlight cowl! i just told them to refit domes. did any one use Shell Front fork Oil??

    I do not about Shell. The fork oil supplied in HH Spares shop is really good.
    HH Karizma (Current) || CBF Stunner PGM-FI || Honda CB Unicorn Dazzler
    Honda Aviator || Kinetic Flyte || Kinetic Blaze || HH Splendor

    Two ZMAs, 9 Days in Western Ghats

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    • #17
      ive seen shell and castrol and another brand in a black colour bottle which i cant remeber the name of now....as far as the amt goes the mech will know......another problem that could be is the thread of ure tyre which has worn out in an unusual way this wud also make your bike wobble had inspected my friends activa soe months back did all hte changes and replacing the wobbling still contd. then one fine day i looked at his tyre it look funnly shpaed asked him to change the tyre tube and his bike wobbles no more today......

      fishtailing is what i have noticed on my 200 big time as well.....especially wen i crouch in my cock pit. i test my bike on a nearby bridge fairly unsed, at 110 i took a slight bend and immediately i had to back off the gas did the same with an R15 and she took that same turn at 115 with odes of stability.....i attribute this fact to the swingarm and rear suspension of the 2 bikes where our indian bikes are no where close to what the modern tech in the world has to offer, it will lack massivelly on the stability and handling fronts
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjWXI8T2HUM
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      86' Ind-Suzuki Ax 100 (Sold)
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Deepakumar
        U mean our Indian bikes loose stability @100+?;how ever the tires were good,the culprit shud be Shock oil (or) T-Stem ball races kit.
        read carefully i said they loose stability and handling.....ask any dedicated R15 owner(who knows the xyz of biking and not just the ABC) to ride a karizma or a p200 or 220 the way he rides his R 15 and let all myths be shatered then.......i ride a 200 so dont think am starting a brand war here jus calling things the way they are.......if im a man ill admit that my thing is not the best if its not the best and thats wat am doing after through research and testing.....
        Last edited by Nikhil Pereira; 01-04-2009, 10:26 PM.
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        99' Suzuki Shaolin
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        • #19
          cool down..

          Originally posted by Nikhil Pereira View Post
          read carefully i said they loose stability and handling.....ask any dedicated R15 owner(who knows the xyz of biking and not just the ABC) to ride a karizma or a p200 or 220 the way he rides his R 15 and let all myths be shatered then.......i ride a 200 so dont think am starting a brand war here jus calling things the way they are.......if im a man ill admit that my thing is not the best if its not the best and thats wat am doing after through research and testing.....
          Wooh..wooh control urself,the bikers who know only ABC are unable to control @ 100+ and i dont want to see a war untill i start it; u may have read the article in **********.in,if not read a part of it below:-

          Conclusion: Yamaha R15 if you accept that it is a little difficult to handle in sharp turns. Difficult in the sense, I mean it is not easy as Karizma. Go for the latter if you are a fan of Hero Honda and want ease in urban roads.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Deepakumar View Post
            Wooh..wooh control urself,the bikers who know only ABC are unable to control @ 100+ and i dont want to see a war untill i start it; u may have read the article in **********.in,if not read a part of it below:-

            Conclusion: Yamaha R15 if you accept that it is a little difficult to handle in sharp turns. Difficult in the sense, I mean it is not easy as Karizma. Go for the latter if you are a fan of Hero Honda and want ease in urban roads.
            perception is a matter of bias.......that was one persons opnion.....tell me what u think dude and dont quote someone else.......ride all 3 bikes and u conclude i wud love to read that rather than reading wat u pasted......weather u take what am saying to u as a war or wat i dunno but lifes fun only with some bantering.....what ya say????
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            99' Suzuki Shaolin
            85' Royal Enfield Bullet 350 (Sold)
            86' Ind-Suzuki Ax 100 (Sold)
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Deepakumar
              Okay dude,and one more thing ********** is not a one mans choice.i had pasted this article bcoz yesterday u were quoting some aggressive scripture.but still now the bikes problem is not solved,still under investigation at HH service;any more ideas?
              I would like to correct you. ********** is run by a single person and to say in your words, yes it is a one mans choice... You can read - About The Author and know for yourself.
              >>> Click Here to read about my day on Bangalore International Auto Expo 2009!

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              • #22
                Guys you better stop disucssing about general opinions of stabilities of the bike at higher speeds. If you have any solution for the particular problem that Deepa facing, post some details, or else stop posting in this thread. There are seperate threads to dicuss that.

                I think, the stability of Zma at higher speeds is established and this is not the topic to debate.
                HH Karizma (Current) || CBF Stunner PGM-FI || Honda CB Unicorn Dazzler
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                  Guys you better stop disucssing about general opinions of stabilities of the bike at higher speeds. If you have any solution for the particular problem that Deepa facing, post some details, or else stop posting in this thread. There are seperate threads to dicuss that.

                  I think, the stability of Zma at higher speeds is established and this is not the topic to debate.

                  Hi Ravi,
                  My bike also feels the same, I mean wobbling..,here is the complete story..and please suggest, I am from hyderabad and I am fedup servicing bike Lakshmi motors and mody..need some good mechanic for my zma let me know if you have someone in mind.

                  1. Total Kms done till today :32,200
                  2. Cone case kit (recently changed,one week back)
                  3. Changed rear tyre to the same factory recommended settings 100/90,18", but i have changed the brand from MRF to Dunlup.( I heard from someone, i should not cruise at high speeds on new tyre, I did constant 120+ for about 100kms+ on the very next day of installation on my way to goa from hyderabad, is this a culprit?).
                  4. Front tyre remains same right from the day1 of my purchase of the bike.
                  5. Fork oil and oil seals are inspected,checked and changed at regular intervals.
                  6. Re-fitted the new tyre again(dunlop) with tyre walla, still the bike wobbles.
                  7. Never inspected the T-Junction, but someone at service center said need to change the swing arm bushes(but you know, these showrooms never have spares).

                  Now,based on above..please suggest me what is the exact reason for wobbling..planning to sell zma and buy r15, what do you suggest.

                  Waiting for your response,
                  KoushiK
                  KoushiK PMK
                  (The Monk of the Madness)
                  "The biggest adventure we can ever take is to live the life of our dreams."

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                  • #24
                    If either wheel is wobbling --------

                    Excessive wheel bearing play/ bent rim/ loose swing arm pivolt bolt or an excessively worn swing arm pivot bushing / bent frame.

                    Incase u feel d steering is heavy as well along wd d wobbling bit then either the steering bearing adjustment nut is too tight or a damaged steering head bearing.

                    @kaushik....good to c u here bud ! haaan....r15...call me.....good news fr yu

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                      Change fork oil every 15k km. The exact amount is 144 + or - 2. Do not fill more. Check the T-stem and Fork for alignment. Check whether the front tyre fitted properly. Check for the wheel balancing. If you correct all these problems, it should be good.


                      Also, change cone set (ball races kit).
                      Fork fluid capacity is 144 (ATF or SS20) and the fluid level should be 165 mm from top.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by MadMax46 View Post
                        If either wheel is wobbling --------

                        Excessive wheel bearing play/ bent rim/ loose swing arm pivolt bolt or an excessively worn swing arm pivot bushing / bent frame.

                        Incase u feel d steering is heavy as well along wd d wobbling bit then either the steering bearing adjustment nut is too tight or a damaged steering head bearing.

                        @kaushik....good to c u here bud ! haaan....r15...call me.....good news fr yu
                        @MadMax(Vinnu),
                        How are you man..? I have tried calling you..ma number is 90107 91686.., ping me if possible..

                        Thanks
                        KoushiK
                        KoushiK PMK
                        (The Monk of the Madness)
                        "The biggest adventure we can ever take is to live the life of our dreams."

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