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    Hey guys its me VJ I own an APACHE RTR 180 ... Guys she is 3 months old and Im planning to change her HEADLAMPS.. I am planning for PROJECTOR wid ANGEL EYES...Now the following are my queries :

    1. Does it draw more power from Battery?

    2. Hw about the visibility?

    3. My friends told to go for HID instead of PROJECTOR... Help me guyzzzz
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    • #3
      Originally posted by deadlydazzler View Post
      Hey guys its me VJ I own an APACHE RTR 180 ... Guys she is 3 months old and Im planning to change her HEADLAMPS.. I am planning for PROJECTOR wid ANGEL EYES...Now the following are my queries :

      1. Does it draw more power from Battery?

      2. Hw about the visibility?

      3. My friends told to go for HID instead of PROJECTOR... Help me guyzzzz
      1. angels eyes consume very little power, hardly 1~2W at max.
      2. visibility should increase with projector
      3. IMO even with an HID you'll have to use projectors, unless you want to blind the oncoming traffic.

      BTW, I was also planning to install projector, plz let me know the costs involved, a PM would be very kind of you.
      Its the fusion of a two wheeled machine & a human being which creates a true biker.

      Fine me on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/krazzykid.abhijeet

      Pulsar spare parts price list (indicative only):
      http://www.scribd.com/doc/42303845/P...re-Parts-Price
      http://www.scribd.com/doc/99085008/Bajaj-180-Pulsar-UG3

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Abhijeet Bhattacharjee View Post
        2. visibility should increase with projector
        3. IMO even with an HID you'll have to use projectors, unless you want to blind the oncoming traffic.
        I have a few questions...

        1. Is an HID bulb is direct fit in the headlamp of any bike of the same watt? Let us take an example of Hunk. Can one simly remove the present bult and can fit the HID without any modification?
        2. Is it very bright and thus it will blind the oncoming traffic?
        3. What exactly happen one use projectors with HID?
        4. Can one have diagramme of wiring for HID with projectors?
        5. Which are the good brands and the cost?
        6. Will it not void the warranty of the bike? Any other adverse effect?
        7. Apart from HID, is there any other way to improve lights/vision.
        8. What is all DC set up? How it is being done? Expenditure? Will warranty of the bike effected.
        9. What is RR?
        Papa always emphasize on making my own path...
        So I start off-roading... :D

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        • #5
          Originally posted by NarenCharan View Post
          I have a few questions...

          1. Is an HID bulb is direct fit in the headlamp of any bike of the same watt? Let us take an example of Hunk. Can one simly remove the present bult and can fit the HID without any modification?
          2. Is it very bright and thus it will blind the oncoming traffic?
          3. What exactly happen one use projectors with HID?
          4. Can one have diagramme of wiring for HID with projectors?
          5. Which are the good brands and the cost?
          6. Will it not void the warranty of the bike? Any other adverse effect?
          7. Apart from HID, is there any other way to improve lights/vision.
          8. What is all DC set up? How it is being done? Expenditure? Will warranty of the bike effected.
          9. What is RR?
          1. As far as fitting is concern, its not the wattage, rather its the bulb type i.e. H3, H4, H7, DS2 etc. Yours will be H4. So you need to get a H4 HID kit. The kit consists of the ballast, wirings and the bulb. Typical wattage found in the market are 35 watts. Small modification is required. Though can be done at home if you have some basic hands on the electricals.

          2. HID used in normal headlight reflector disperses the light and blinds oncoming traffic, hence HID are better suited with projectors. A 35 watts HID is roughly equivalent to a 100 watts halogen in brightness.

          3. Projectors uses reflector and powerful magnifying lens to project beam. There are many after market projectors around, most are poorly made, some are sheer junks, while you may find some that are good quality. Depends on how much you pay I guess.

          4. There is no wiring in projectors, you simply plonk in the bulb in the projector. Wiring is only required for the ballast to your battery and switch. You will find diagram in HID pack.

          5. HID or projector?

          6.

          7. Some uses higher watts bulb + higher amps battery. Though you should check your reflector before toying such idea. Higher watts bulbs tends to burn plastic reflectors because it generates more heat. Your next question may be, what about HID? will it burn my reflector. No. As Most HID are only 35 watts.

          8. See this thread, you will get a lot of information http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/universa...ke-all-dc.html

          9.
          Last edited by kaynmantis; 12-15-2011, 06:35 PM. Reason: URL corrected

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          • #6
            Originally posted by NarenCharan View Post
            I have a few questions...

            1. Is an HID bulb is direct fit in the headlamp of any bike of the same watt? Let us take an example of Hunk. Can one simly remove the present bult and can fit the HID without any modification?
            2. Is it very bright and thus it will blind the oncoming traffic?
            3. What exactly happen one use projectors with HID?
            4. Can one have diagramme of wiring for HID with projectors?
            5. Which are the good brands and the cost?
            6. Will it not void the warranty of the bike? Any other adverse effect?
            7. Apart from HID, is there any other way to improve lights/vision.
            8. What is all DC set up? How it is being done? Expenditure? Will warranty of the bike effected.
            9. What is RR?
            6. Yes, it will void your warranty. Adverse effects, if any, are draining of battery if the charging rate is not boosted.
            8. All DC setup means all electricals on your bike would be fed from the battery directly & the stator will only be used to charge the battery. Depends on what kind of setup you opt for, if you follow most XBhpians it'll cost you around 2k, my costed only 200 [:P]
            9. A RR is a regulator+rectifier, it regulates the voltage coming from the stator to around 14.5V (max.) & also converts the A.C. current from stator to D.C.

            rest have already been answered.
            Its the fusion of a two wheeled machine & a human being which creates a true biker.

            Fine me on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/krazzykid.abhijeet

            Pulsar spare parts price list (indicative only):
            http://www.scribd.com/doc/42303845/P...re-Parts-Price
            http://www.scribd.com/doc/99085008/Bajaj-180-Pulsar-UG3

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Abhijeet Bhattacharjee View Post
              6. Yes, it will void your warranty.
              if you follow most XBhpians it'll cost you around 2k, my costed only 200 [:P]
              rest have already been answered.
              Just 200 did you have a beforehand RR or did you get a RR for 200Rs.
              Pls let me know.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by shoeb2015 View Post
                Just 200 did you have a beforehand RR or did you get a RR for 200Rs.
                Pls let me know.
                made it myself dude, I'm an Electronics Engineering student interested in DIY work. Bought discrete components & built it myself. You can check out my album on facebook. Providing the link below:
                my 2007 Discover 135, full D.C.
                with stock headlamp
                https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater

                pic of working circuit
                https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater

                My custom RR has following features:
                * Indicator LED's - green if RR is working, red for blown fuse
                * Fuse - 7A fuse, to prevent damage in case of short-circuit
                * Heat sinks - 3 heatsinks to dissipate heat
                * 100% water-proof, thats because once water happened to flood the under-seat while washing, still the inside of the circuit box was dry (it had been designed to be water-proof)
                * Capable of delivering around 120W

                EDIT:
                for those who intend to run full DC but are don't have enough to spend can follow these options.

                * Float your lighting coil. Buy Pulsar 150/180 UG4 RR unit & install it in parallel with your current RR, reroute the lighting coil wires to your new RR & add the output terminals to the battery directly. Add a custom D.C. changeover circuit. (capable of running a 35W halo/HID whole day)
                Approx cost - Rs. 600
                * Buy a Avenger 180 stator, float its lighting coil. Buy Pulsar 150/180 UG4 RR unit & install it in parallel with your current RR, reroute the lighting coil wires to your new RR & add the output terminals to the battery directly. (capable of running a 60W halo/HID whole day)
                Approx cost - Rs. 1200
                * Rewind your current stator, take full wave output, buy Pulsar 150/180 UG4 RR unit, remove your current RR. Connect RR output wires directly to battery. (capable of running 35W halo/HID all day)
                Approx cost - Rs. 1200
                Last edited by Abhijeet Bhattacharjee; 12-16-2011, 10:30 PM. Reason: additional info added
                Its the fusion of a two wheeled machine & a human being which creates a true biker.

                Fine me on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/krazzykid.abhijeet

                Pulsar spare parts price list (indicative only):
                http://www.scribd.com/doc/42303845/P...re-Parts-Price
                http://www.scribd.com/doc/99085008/Bajaj-180-Pulsar-UG3

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                • #9
                  Hi Mates...

                  I have recently installed "Bike HID Kit H4 Xenon Light-8000k" I mean i asked the seller and he showed me this as labeled on the box pack. As per the seller it is supposed to produce very good illumination, however I am not happy with the low beam. The high beam seems to be bright, but when I switch it to low beam, I dont get much confidence to avoid the potholes comfortably, rather I have to ride slow... Any advise?

                  One possbile reson could be unbalanced fixture, but I ensure that it is fitted the way it should be and also double checked after it is installed.

                  Need some serious advise here! Thanks in advance!! :-)

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                  • #10
                    ...bringing on top...

                    HELP HELP HELP!!!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Abhijeet Bhattacharjee View Post
                      made it myself dude, I'm an Electronics Engineering student interested in DIY work. Bought discrete components & built it myself. You can check out my album on facebook. Providing the link below:
                      my 2007 Discover 135, full D.C.
                      with stock headlamp
                      https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater

                      pic of working circuit
                      https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater

                      My custom RR has following features:
                      * Indicator LED's - green if RR is working, red for blown fuse
                      * Fuse - 7A fuse, to prevent damage in case of short-circuit
                      * Heat sinks - 3 heatsinks to dissipate heat
                      * 100% water-proof, thats because once water happened to flood the under-seat while washing, still the inside of the circuit box was dry (it had been designed to be water-proof)
                      * Capable of delivering around 120W

                      EDIT:
                      for those who intend to run full DC but are don't have enough to spend can follow these options.

                      * Float your lighting coil. Buy Pulsar 150/180 UG4 RR unit & install it in parallel with your current RR, reroute the lighting coil wires to your new RR & add the output terminals to the battery directly. Add a custom D.C. changeover circuit. (capable of running a 35W halo/HID whole day)
                      Approx cost - Rs. 600
                      * Buy a Avenger 180 stator, float its lighting coil. Buy Pulsar 150/180 UG4 RR unit & install it in parallel with your current RR, reroute the lighting coil wires to your new RR & add the output terminals to the battery directly. (capable of running a 60W halo/HID whole day)
                      Approx cost - Rs. 1200
                      * Rewind your current stator, take full wave output, buy Pulsar 150/180 UG4 RR unit, remove your current RR. Connect RR output wires directly to battery. (capable of running 35W halo/HID all day)
                      Approx cost - Rs. 1200
                      That's great,
                      I am also a student but as you are 20 you are my senior anyways what are the charging rates at idle and at full throttle.
                      Why do you suggest parallel charging ? It is unreliable in the long run.
                      Pulsar UG4 RR cost just Rs.425/-.
                      Its good for bike with puny coils such as 100 cc bikes.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by shoeb2015 View Post
                        That's great,
                        I am also a student but as you are 20 you are my senior anyways what are the charging rates at idle and at full throttle.
                        Why do you suggest parallel charging ? It is unreliable in the long run.
                        Pulsar UG4 RR cost just Rs.425/-.
                        Its good for bike with puny coils such as 100 cc bikes.
                        At idling (1200 rpm) I get aound 2.5A
                        ~ 1800 rpm - 5A
                        > 6000 rpm - in excess of 7A

                        AFAIK, parallel charging has no reliability concerns, most had issues with parallel charging because they couldn't do it properly. (I've just put forth my opinion & I don't want members to chase me for that...)
                        Its the fusion of a two wheeled machine & a human being which creates a true biker.

                        Fine me on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/krazzykid.abhijeet

                        Pulsar spare parts price list (indicative only):
                        http://www.scribd.com/doc/42303845/P...re-Parts-Price
                        http://www.scribd.com/doc/99085008/Bajaj-180-Pulsar-UG3

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by SharkJaws View Post
                          ...bringing on top...

                          HELP HELP HELP!!!
                          I have recently installed "Bike HID Kit H4 Xenon Light-8000k" I mean i asked the seller and he showed me this as labeled on the box pack. As per the seller it is supposed to produce very good illumination, however I am not happy with the low beam. The high beam seems to be bright, but when I switch it to low beam, I dont get much confidence to avoid the potholes comfortably, rather I have to ride slow... Any advise?

                          One possbile reson could be unbalanced fixture, but I ensure that it is fitted the way it should be and also double checked after it is installed.

                          Need some serious advise here! Thanks in advance!!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by SharkJaws View Post
                            I have recently installed "Bike HID Kit H4 Xenon Light-8000k" I mean i asked the seller and he showed me this as labeled on the box pack. As per the seller it is supposed to produce very good illumination, however I am not happy with the low beam. The high beam seems to be bright, but when I switch it to low beam, I dont get much confidence to avoid the potholes comfortably, rather I have to ride slow... Any advise?

                            One possbile reson could be unbalanced fixture, but I ensure that it is fitted the way it should be and also double checked after it is installed.

                            Need some serious advise here! Thanks in advance!!
                            8000k is not meant for illumination.Its for Show-off.
                            And if you are not using a projector the beam wont have a good focus.

                            My sincere suggestion is
                            Go for a good quality projector and a 4300k Hid kit.

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