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  • Issue with my P180 UG3, calling Riders for help.

    These are the issues on my P180 UG3 run 23,800km

    1)

    Is the dip in oil level reasonable?

    The last complete oil change done was ~700kms before with Motul 5100 15W50 SS.
    The level was above minimum. Now it is below the minimum level.

    Most of the rides was on the highway 50kms a day and very few on the city's.

    No ripping done, would maintain 80-90kmph and occasionaly would stay at 115kmph, rest in city with normal driving.



    2)

    And my bike when revved sounds very much abnormal, why is that, i dont think it is the oil alone, since it is just below the lower mark.
    Had the tappets tightened at the same interval of oil change (~700km), abnormality in sound is being noticed recently and it sounds more throttier, what exaclty is refferd to a rough roar. would that be the tappet set after this many travel?

    (3)

    It vibrates much, had all the mounting bolts tightend at the same interval, except for the swingarm a.k.a rearset connecting bolt, i suppose thats where the bush comes.

    (4)

    With swingarm holded with one hand, i can move the tyre from left to right.

    (5)

    I feel loss of power in the rear wheel, i dont know how exactly to portray it here. i feel the loss while on the move, the wheel spins more (am not talking about scrambling)

    (6)

    Michelin 120/90 is my rear tyre, there is only a minute clearance between the brake support rod and the swing arm

    (7)

    I feel the chain is not exaclty in the guide path, as on the swingarm, negligible clearance with tyre. Chain now loose, last tightened at same interval.

    (8)

    Overheating.

    AFR is rich, what else can contribute

    Help needed guys
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    • #3
      Hey Guys..

      Throw some light and help me out
      Presence of MIND and self CONFIDENCE is the primary aspect You need to be on road, not what brand your riding gears are.
      If you lack these two then DONT

      Feel the pleasure of Ultimate Biking
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      • #4
        Originally posted by ARNandal View Post
        These are the issues on my P180 UG3 run 23,800km

        1)

        Is the dip in oil level reasonable?

        The last complete oil change done was ~700kms before with Motul 5100 15W50 SS.
        The level was above minimum. Now it is below the minimum level.

        Most of the rides was on the highway 50kms a day and very few on the city's.

        No ripping done, would maintain 80-90kmph and occasionaly would stay at 115kmph, rest in city with normal driving.
        not resonable, but sometimes happen. Top it up & watch out for oil loss. And I'd say 115 kmph is ripping.
        One question; does your exhaust emit blue-ish white smoke or has any gummy carbon deposits?

        Originally posted by ARNandal View Post
        2)

        And my bike when revved sounds very much abnormal, why is that, i dont think it is the oil alone, since it is just below the lower mark.
        Had the tappets tightened at the same interval of oil change (~700km), abnormality in sound is being noticed recently and it sounds more throttier, what exaclty is refferd to a rough roar. would that be the tappet set after this many travel?
        is it like you giving throttle, rpm rising (more sound) but bike's not pulling/speeding?

        Originally posted by ARNandal View Post
        (3)

        It vibrates much, had all the mounting bolts tightend at the same interval, except for the swingarm a.k.a rearset connecting bolt, i suppose thats where the bush comes.
        try getting swingarm bolt tighten'd or may be bushes needs change

        Originally posted by ARNandal View Post
        (4)

        With swingarm holded with one hand, i can move the tyre from left to right.
        seems like bushes & bearings are gone

        Originally posted by ARNandal View Post
        (5)

        I feel loss of power in the rear wheel, i dont know how exactly to portray it here. i feel the loss while on the move, the wheel spins more (am not talking about scrambling)
        refer my comment on point #2

        Originally posted by ARNandal View Post
        (6)

        Michelin 120/90 is my rear tyre, there is only a minute clearance between the brake support rod and the swing arm
        there should be no problem if they aint kissing each other & check rear wheel alignment.

        Originally posted by ARNandal View Post
        (7)

        I feel the chain is not exaclty in the guide path, as on the swingarm, negligible clearance with tyre. Chain now loose, last tightened at same interval.
        adjust chain and check alignment

        Originally posted by ARNandal View Post
        (8)

        Overheating.

        AFR is rich, what else can contribute
        leak in intake charge (will also increase vibes)
        clutch sliping, ambient weather, tight tappets also can contribute over heating.
        Btw, if you are using motul 5100 first time; this oil make your engine dispense heat much better so it may feel like overheating.
        Originally posted by ARNandal View Post
        Help needed guys
        few issues seems like interrelated namely overheating, vibes, rough sound and chain, alignment, less clearance between brake support rod, tyre, swingarm.
        Another question any opinion from any mechanic?
        Last edited by Honda_CBF; 04-29-2012, 10:44 AM.
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        • #5
          Thanks a lot Honda_CBF

          1) The speed was maintained in top gear on highways, isnt ripping said for revvng the bike more on smaller gears?

          2) No, No tuning issues, but am not sure about my clutch

          5) I completely said it wrong
          When i leave the throttle from somewhere near 4000rpm, there's a sudden jerk and rear wheel tends to slip, the wheel forgets there is a road, it seems like it doesnt stick to the road
          Presence of MIND and self CONFIDENCE is the primary aspect You need to be on road, not what brand your riding gears are.
          If you lack these two then DONT

          Feel the pleasure of Ultimate Biking
          __________________________________________

          . . .
          alwayzaLive . . .

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          • #6
            Originally posted by ARNandal View Post
            1) The speed was maintained in top gear on highways, isnt ripping said for revvng the bike more on smaller gears?
            i'd define ripping as stressing engine too much, with lower or higher gears doesnt matter

            Originally posted by ARNandal View Post
            2) No, No tuning issues, but am not sure about my clutch
            normal indians change their clutch plates between 20k to 30k kms (depends upon individual clutch uses)
            if you dont feel any clutch slip or reduced speed, compared to rpms then dont worry

            Originally posted by ARNandal View Post
            5) I completely said it wrong
            When i leave the throttle from somewhere near 4000rpm, there's a sudden jerk and rear wheel tends to slip, the wheel forgets there is a road, it seems like it doesnt stick to the road
            may be worn out tyre. Btw you mean spin, wheel spin right?
            And what about the smoke from exhaust?
            Many pulsar riders say they gulp oil when ridden on high speed for long duration..
            Last edited by Honda_CBF; 04-30-2012, 09:29 PM.
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            • #7
              No smoke from exhaust

              Sorry for the late reply, was out of station
              Presence of MIND and self CONFIDENCE is the primary aspect You need to be on road, not what brand your riding gears are.
              If you lack these two then DONT

              Feel the pleasure of Ultimate Biking
              __________________________________________

              . . .
              alwayzaLive . . .

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              • #8
                Originally posted by ARNandal View Post
                No smoke from exhaust
                also check gummy residual of carbon at exhaust tip (hole), if not found then there's no engine (mechanical) problem. And keep monitoring oil level.
                As mentioned earlier, many (but not all) pulsar owners have reported oil consumption when used for high speed runs.
                Btw, my bike too once consumed around 200ml of oil in just 300kms but that never re-occurred
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