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MG · 05-07-2012, 10:58 AM

Query Approved

The oil provided by Suzuki is more than enough for such run.

**ravi@17bhp** · 05-07-2012, 11:02 AM

Originally posted by MG View Post

Query Approved

The oil provided by Suzuki is more than enough for such run.

+1. The stock oil provided at Suzuki service center is well enough. Give rest to the bike and your body at every 150 kms for some 10-15 minutes; good for both you and your bike.

**lijok** · 05-07-2012, 08:37 PM

Your regular oil will suffice. Just make sure you keep a tab on the oil level, not just before/after rides, but more often. Sometimes you may see a drop in oil level after such long rides. Instead of topping it up, just go ahead and change it.
Ride safe, ride long and enjoy

**muztariq** · 05-07-2012, 10:25 PM

motul 300v 15w50 or 10w40.

Reasons for recommendation-
1. Engine would be more protected at the high speed high rpm high temp run.
2. No need to thro the oil after the run.. You will buy a mineral of 250, throw it after the run and consume two more minerals in the next 4000 kms, hence using synthetic for 5-6 k kms will be equal on pocket.
3. The feel. Which would be just great - you will rather enjoy the ride, no vibrations smooth ride.

**ysreenu** · 05-07-2012, 11:34 PM

Thanks

Originally posted by muztariq View Post

motul 300v 15w50 or 10w40.

Reasons for recommendation-
1. Engine would be more protected at the high speed high rpm high temp run.
2. No need to thro the oil after the run.. You will buy a mineral of 250, throw it after the run and consume two more minerals in the next 4000 kms, hence using synthetic for 5-6 k kms will be equal on pocket.
3. The feel. Which would be just great - you will rather enjoy the ride, no vibrations smooth ride.

Hi Everybody,
Thanks for your detailed suggestions. If you also share any specific
instances where any brand/oil other than the stock one is used would be helpful for me.

Muztariq,
Thanks for your insightful post with listed pros :-) Going by your post, it seems that the Brand and spec you are recommending
is a synthetic one and typically costlier than a mineral one. Also, it will continue to be useful after the run is finished.
Is that correct?

Regards,
Sreenivasulu Y

**SriramEfunds** · 05-07-2012, 11:43 PM

Srini - It is not about using stock oil or any synthetic oil. But to keep tab on the oil level at regular interval and color change. What's the guarantee that synthetic oil might not be consumed or going black?

I would rather stick to stock/mineral oil for such run and keep an extra Can, just in case of requirement.

Offcourse we will need to prepare ourselves for such situation as we never know how our bikes behave time after time. This comes from pure road trip experiences I had so far.

**muztariq** · 05-08-2012, 08:05 AM

Originally posted by ysreenu View Post

Hi Everybody,
Thanks for your detailed suggestions. If you also share any specific
instances where any brand/oil other than the stock one is used would be helpful for me.

Muztariq,
Thanks for your insightful post with listed pros :-) Going by your post, it seems that the Brand and spec you are recommending
is a synthetic one and typically costlier than a mineral one. Also, it will continue to be useful after the run is finished.
Is that correct?

Regards,
Sreenivasulu Y

yes, thats synthetic oil grades i have mentioned. Just for comfort and added protection, as you said cost is not a constraint - this would cost around 900 rs. And will last 5to6 thousand kms even after your run.
It seems you want suggestions of other better oil grades from your second post, for that just see what sae rating suzuki gs150r comes with like 20w40 etc and post your query for the best oil in that spec in the 'engine oil' thread.. You will get a reply soon.

Engine Oils - xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community

https://www.xbhp.com/talkies/universal-threads/4789-engine-oils.html

The gold mine of all the topics which are frequently discussed..

As you have already travelled good distances using the stock grade.. You are a better judge of that oil. Was there any dip in levels after your previous runs? Were there any vibrations etc.. If not, you can continue with what you were using.

**Honda_CBF** · 05-08-2012, 12:20 PM

2000kms of highspeed run that to in a day is too much to ask from mineral or semi-synth oil.
I'd say go for motul 300v FL. Period. And its always better to carry another liter of the same oil you are using.
And also use your bike with new oil (before your 2k kms run) for some 50 kms (at least) so that oil can set in.

**muztariq** · 05-08-2012, 03:26 PM

Originally posted by Honda_CBF View Post

2000kms of highspeed run that to in a day is too much to ask from mineral or semi-synth oil.
I'd say go for motul 300v FL. Period. And its always better to carry another liter of the same oil you are using.
And also use your bike with new oil (before your 2k kms run) for some 50 kms (at least) so that oil can set in.

he is not attempting a saddlesore.. Its 500+500km run.

**ysreenu** · 05-08-2012, 10:32 PM

Originally posted by muztariq View Post

he is not attempting a saddlesore.. Its 500+500km run.

yes, it's definitely not 1000+1000 :-) that's too much for a 150cc bike

Originally posted by muztariq View Post

yes, thats synthetic oil grades i have mentioned. Just for comfort and added protection, as you said cost is not a constraint - this would cost around 900 rs. And will last 5to6 thousand kms even after your run.
It seems you want suggestions of other better oil grades from your second post, for that just see what sae rating suzuki gs150r comes with like 20w40 etc and post your query for the best oil in that spec in the 'engine oil' thread.. You will get a reply soon.
www.xbhp.com/talkies/universal-threads/4789-engine-oils.html
As you have already travelled good distances using the stock grade.. You are a better judge of that oil. Was there any dip in levels after your previous runs? Were there any vibrations etc.. If not, you can continue with what you were using.

Sure, I will check the other thread based on SAE rating.

Regarding actual observations during my earlier runs, I have to say never observed the oil levels after the run. Moreover none of them were of high speed nature, just casual drives.

**Honda_CBF** · 05-09-2012, 10:53 AM

Originally posted by muztariq View Post

he is not attempting a saddlesore.. Its 500 500km run.

oh, my bad understanding of english :-(
regular oil can do for 1k kms in a day on GS but with FS oil strain on your bike or yourself will be much less.
Btw, have done 800 kms on my stunner with semi-synth oil. No problem noticed.

**ravi@17bhp** · 05-09-2012, 11:36 AM

Seems members on the forum are brainwashed about mineral oils being destructive on engine at high speeds for prolonged periods. I say this is not true. I have done extensive runs on many bikes with stock mineral oil. Everything went good. There are lots and lots of people who ride extensively on mineral oils without any issues. Moreover, the mineral oils now a days are a lot better than older days.

Some examples:

I have done 290 kms nonstop from Hyderabad to Vijayawada on Splendor at 80 kmph speed. Done many other speed runs on stock oil and still the engine is good even after 8 years. Engine is not opened yet.
Done various high-speed rides on my Karizma with stock Honda oil.
Done high-speed runs on my Dazzler (700 kms a day) with stock Honda oil with no issues.

**Eshan-P180** · 05-09-2012, 11:46 AM

Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post

Seems members on the forum are brainwashed about mineral oils being destructive on engine at high speeds for prolonged periods. I say this is not true. I have done extensive runs on many bikes with stock mineral oil. Everything went good. There are lots and lots of people who ride extensively on mineral oils without any issues. Moreover, the mineral oils now a days are a lot better than older days.

Some examples:

I have done 290 kms nonstop from Hyderabad to Vijayawada on Splendor at 80 kmph speed. Done many other speed runs on stock oil and still the engine is good even after 8 years. Engine is not opened yet.
Done various high-speed rides on my Karizma with stock Honda oil.
Done high-speed runs on my Dazzler (700 kms a day) with stock Honda oil with no issues.

I dont know why but i kind of agree with you on that...All my three bikes used never tasted FS or SS, It was only mineral.

But yes in between just once it was that elf 10w50 stuff for my Pulsar 180 UG IV was used... But dint feel the difference as its job is use to lubricate and keep the functioning alive just like a mineral oil. The only difference i would see in SS and FS is of stamina, its more than mineral and thats for sure.

Mineral i find to be tension free... 2.5k on the odo, drain and fill . Repeat.
i dont find it safe to keep the engine filled with liquids for over 4,000 to 5,000kms of running. Who knows some nut might just pour mineral in a synthetic stickered can... Thats my perception based on experience of more than 1 lakh kilometers of riding.

I also agree with you that the mineral oil manufactured these days is lot better than before.

Hail Mineral Oil.

EDIT - @ Thread starter, the engine oil given in the spares section of your suzuki SVC is fine. If you feel some roughness, drain and fill a new pot.

**muztariq** · 05-09-2012, 04:35 PM

if synthetic does not protect more in comparison to mineral at high speed runs and are equally good in comfort than why is the whole world using these grades..

Are we trying to start a mineral vs synthetic discussion here?

If someone is having the money and want that 'added' protection and smoothness.. Why not synthetic?

And the comment - Someone has replaced the synthetic with mineral is completely ridiculous. A person using synthetic will come to know within 5 min run whether he has got synthetic or mineral.
Whats the guarantee that the mineral bottle does not contain cooking oil then.. The user cant make that out for sure.

Some guys will buy a Sony, some guys will buy an Akai. Its not Akai is bad.. It solves the purpose. But an Akai buyer should not force his buy on others.. So should be done by a Sony buyer.

I am not starting a war buddy.. Just emphasising a point. :-)

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