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**Samarth 619** · 05-25-2012, 12:18 AM

Topic Approved. This info might be useful to the site's members in helping you:

1. While doing 60 kmph in 5th gear, what rpm is displayed in the meter?
2. Any change in riding sound, silencer smoke, etc?

You could try overhauling and tuning the carburettor correctly if it helps, maybe the fuel's supply is hampered due to something?

**aargee** · 05-25-2012, 08:27 AM

Originally posted by dushyantmate View Post

Has anyone experience anything similar or has knowledge about how to cure this problem?

No, I don't own a ZMA, but, the one & only person who can save you from any kind of issue on a ZMA is PSR Ji & only PSR ji only; all other posts are only waste of disk space

PM him for his kind attention & you'll be glad you did.

**SID_BHP** · 05-25-2012, 10:18 AM

Has anyone experience anything similar or has knowledge about how to cure this problem?
Please help.

Hie Dushant,
1.You have to change engine oil of your bike.
2.As you said you come from abroad that means your bike is standing condition for few years,if i am right then please done greesing & oiling of wheel bearings,sprockets & clean the chain.
3.if problem remains same & you want block piston job then please by new "HEAD BLOCK WITH PISTON" of required size.dont bore old block.the cost is nearly same of both but new head block results are better than old one.

4.check your carb tunning by experts.

**rachitkohli** · 05-25-2012, 11:16 AM

I think its time to take the bike to some good non HH mechanic.. Let us know your location in mumbai, it should help mumbai members to suggest you some good mech.

**Eshan-P180** · 05-25-2012, 11:19 AM

Pls check diaphragm of your carburetor...Had the same issue on my P180.

**shv18** · 05-25-2012, 12:48 PM

Most likely a carburetor issue... check the engine oil level.. if that is fine then carburetor is the culprit.. do you ride your bike a lot of times on reserve level for long distances?

Cheers,

**Honda_CBF** · 05-25-2012, 07:17 PM

Originally posted by aargee View Post

No, I don't own a ZMA, but, the one & only person who can save you from any kind of issue on a ZMA is PSR Ji & only PSR ji only; all other posts are only waste of disk space

PM him for his kind attention & you'll be glad you did.

1000+ to that.
he's the guru here and not only for ZMA

**nav75** · 05-25-2012, 07:29 PM

Originally posted by dushyantmate View Post

Hello all,
I am Dushyant Mate from Mumbai. I returned to India after a long stay abroad. I have renewed bonding with time with my 2008 Karizma as my trusted companion. To my utter shock and dismay, the pick up on the Karizma is pathetic. Even worse is the poor top speed. The bike struggles and takes what seems like eternity to reach 60 kmph. Beyond that, the bike simply runs out of speed even on wide open roads. Most 100cc econobikes overtake me quite easily.

I faced a similar issue when I decided to get my friend's CBZ in running condition. Just like in your case, his bike was also standing for long.
The bike didn't have any kind of acceleration and max speed was hardly anything.
Took it to a trusted mech, the issues were:
- Water in petrol tank & also in carb.
- Drained battery.
He did a normal servicing (oil & air filter change), cleaned the tank and carb. Replaced the dead battery with a new one and bike was back into normal condition.

I'll say, find a mech you can trust and visit him, instead of wasting your time and money with the auth HMC guys (based on my exp with couple of Auth Service centers in Pune, for CBZ and ZMA - I won't go to them).

**dushyantmate** · 05-25-2012, 09:14 PM

Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post

Topic Approved. This info might be useful to the site's members in helping you:

1. While doing 60 kmph in 5th gear, what rpm is displayed in the meter?
2. Any change in riding sound, silencer smoke, etc?

You could try overhauling and tuning the carburettor correctly if it helps, maybe the fuel's supply is hampered due to something?

Thanks for the response Samarth. The bike does about 4000 rpm while doing 60 kmph. The problem is I cannot rev the bike any more or extract any more performance out of the engine past this stage.
As far as the riding sound or smoke, there is nothing extraordinary. The bike sounds normal but the engine seems to lose torque after 45-50 kmph. By 60 kmph, it feels like the bike cannot pull anymore.
Could it be fueling problem? I must point out that my Karizma's fuel tank is rusted on the inside too.

**dushyantmate** · 05-25-2012, 09:18 PM

Originally posted by nav75 View Post

I faced a similar issue when I decided to get my friend's CBZ in running condition. Just like in your case, his bike was also standing for long.
The bike didn't have any kind of acceleration and max speed was hardly anything.
Took it to a trusted mech, the issues were:
- Water in petrol tank & also in carb.
- Drained battery.
He did a normal servicing (oil & air filter change), cleaned the tank and carb. Replaced the dead battery with a new one and bike was back into normal condition.

I'll say, find a mech you can trust and visit him, instead of wasting your time and money with the auth HMC guys (based on my exp with couple of Auth Service centers in Pune, for CBZ and ZMA - I won't go to them).

Nav 75, I feel the same. I would not want to waste my money with HMC techs. They don't seem to have a clue so they keep suggesting different cures to fix the issue. However, they lack conviction and cannot pin point the issue.

**aargee** · 05-25-2012, 09:20 PM

dushyantmate - Pls use multi quote when replying to multiple posts as posting back to back is against the forum rules - http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/coffee-l...tiquettes.html

**dushyantmate** · 05-25-2012, 09:22 PM

Originally posted by shv18 View Post

Most likely a carburetor issue... check the engine oil level.. if that is fine then carburetor is the culprit.. do you ride your bike a lot of times on reserve level for long distances?

Cheers,

Thanks Shv18, it could be a carb issue, methinks. The fueling on the bike is uneven. Sometimes the bike feels like it will die when moving off standstill. Also, while on the move, if I crack open the throttle to overtake, the bike hesitates and then tries to pull. However, as I mentioned there is a definite lack of torque after 50 kmph.
I do ride the bike on reserve often but not necessarily long distances. What are you getting to here?

Originally posted by SID_BHP View Post

Hie Dushant,
1.You have to change engine oil of your bike.
2.As you said you come from abroad that means your bike is standing condition for few years,if i am right then please done greesing & oiling of wheel bearings,sprockets & clean the chain.
3.if problem remains same & you want block piston job then please by new "HEAD BLOCK WITH PISTON" of required size.dont bore old block.the cost is nearly same of both but new head block results are better than old one.

4.check your carb tunning by experts.

Originally posted by rachitkohli View Post

I think its time to take the bike to some good non HH mechanic.. Let us know your location in mumbai, it should help mumbai members to suggest you some good mech.

I have had the engine oil changed, engine decarbonised, wheel alignment done, clutch overall and carburetor cleaned while I dropped the bike at Fort Point Hero at Mahim.

Is there a good, reliable Karizma mechanic in Central or South Mumbai that you may recommend? I live in Parel, and I do not mind taking it to a mechanic even reasonably far only to pin point the root cause of the issue and fix it for good.

**nav75** · 05-25-2012, 09:50 PM

Originally posted by dushyantmate

Is there a good, reliable Karizma mechanic in Central or South Mumbai that you may recommend? I live in Parel, and I do not mind taking it to a mechanic even reasonably far only to pin point the root cause of the issue and fix it for good.

Another thing that I can think of is the HT Coil. When it failed in my Karizma, the bike had issue in starting and once started, the pickup was erratic and speed also wasn't much (couldn't test it as I was riding in city traffic all this while).

The one I visit is in Goregaon.

**dushyantmate** · 05-25-2012, 09:53 PM

Samarth,
the bike attains 60 kmph at about 4000 rpm. However progress to 60 kmph after that is laborious. The rpms don't rise much but the bike requires too much patience and open road to get to 60kmph.
I don't feel that the bike engine strains too much and there is no extra smoke either.
The bike simply rides smoothly but weakly to 60 kmph.

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