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    Dear Freinds,

    From the past few weeks i am observing very quick decrease of air pressure in my HH Super Splendor. I fill air every 4-5 days and the recorded decrease of back tyre is 35-37 Psi from 40 psi. But recently I observed that the air pressure is reducing at high rate, we are talking about rear tyre .

    Tube i changed some 4 months ago with 1 year warranty DUNLOP tube, and the seller did not give receipt but told it has one year warranty, if tube isfaulty can i claim from seller as i live in Chennai where almost everyone rips you offf

    kindly suggest me procedure to find out the culprit when i apply water to the valve no air bubbles come out...
    K.Ravi

    Do check out my custom painted tail light in my DIY thread ;) ...

  • #2
    Query approved.
    (Been There Done That) x 3.25

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    • #3
      Ravi, did you check if the tube mouth is not leaky?

      BTW, without bill, I'm not sure how the dealer will honor the warranty

      PS - You know very well that everyone in Chennai rips off, then why didn't you be careful about the bill?
      Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
      Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
      ATGATT + Awareness + Skill means you might Live To Ride another day

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      • #4
        Originally posted by rsk11584 View Post
        Dear Freinds,

        From the past few weeks i am observing very quick decrease of air pressure in my HH Super Splendor. I fill air every 4-5 days and the recorded decrease of back tyre is 35-37 Psi from 40 psi. But recently I observed that the air pressure is reducing at high rate, we are talking about rear tyre .

        Tube i changed some 4 months ago with 1 year warranty DUNLOP tube, and the seller did not give receipt but told it has one year warranty, if tube isfaulty can i claim from seller as i live in Chennai where almost everyone rips you offf

        kindly suggest me procedure to find out the culprit when i apply water to the valve no air bubbles come out...
        40 psi?

        Dude, that's way over the prescribed tire pressure!

        For the KariZMA/KariZMR, it is 25 front and 29 rear.
        Must be the same/similar for Splendor (xyz) series.

        [Assuming there are no punctures]
        Anyways, take your bike to a tire dealer (MRF/Ceat) and ask them to re-mount the tire (and tube) on the rim. They'll put a liquid/jel of sorts which helps in seating of the tire.
        It won't cost you more than 50 bucks (quoting Bangalore prices)
        (You can check Mount Road, near Express Avenue for dealers or Neelankarai on ECR)

        For me, before the above mentioned process my bike used to lose around 7-10 psi in a couple of days.
        Now, it loses 1 psi in a week.

        P.S - you can get it done at a road-side shop too.

        Get it checked for puncture first, if not; check the air valves. Finally if all fails; get the above mentioned fix done!

        Cheers.
        Last edited by Divya Sharan; 08-21-2012, 08:09 PM. Reason: typo
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        ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
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        • #5
          Thanks friends for your replies in my bike fuel tank its written hh super splendor 2006 model that for front its 25 psi and for back 35 psi if solo and 40psi with pillion mostly am solo but keep 40 always just in case if some colleague demands lift i will try the reseating of tyre and tube here too tough to find honest people will directly go to mrf shop and ask price of reseating will update soon
          K.Ravi

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          • #6
            go to a puncture shop and check thoroughly for a puncture first. then reply back.
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            • #7
              Well thanks guys for your replies, ultimately today only the mystery was unlocked. I was becoming too lazy to check the bike for punctures , as i have had some bad experiences with some puncture shops , some shops even dont have water to check for punctures the person will listen to the air sound or feel his hand over the tube then apply his saliva and identify the puncture, such pity conditions are here, so from the past few days the psi pressure was decreasing at the rate of 4-5 psi per day, and today when i took my bike to go to shop it was very low, hence today being holiday went to nearby puncture shop and asked him to do a heat puncture as for my bike or for me whenever any puncture shop person has done a normal puncture on my bike it gave away within a month or so and ultimately i had to replace the tube.

              It was some small puncture which had become noticeable ,, some very small string or pisri he told was in the tyre, which was the reason for slow slow air leak , and with use the leak became big , The puncture cost meRs.80/ - meanwhile one tubeless tyre bike came for puncture repair and within 5 mins the shopkeeper repaired two punctures as tubeless tyres are just punch and fil the puncture, but the puncture repair of tubeless tyres is costly and he literally advised the two wheeler owner to buy a tube and fix it,

              even i am thinking of fixing tubeless tyre in my bike will it help avoid any punctures. Why dont bike companies make the tyre & tube extra thick and strong so as to avoid the small punctures that happen due to thorns ,stones ,nails etc. Because puncture costs rs60-80 rs whereas new tube ranges from 200- 300 rs only, hence i dont see any point in spending on more than two punctures for a single tube .

              What is your opinion, companies should make their product more and best quality and increase the price but it should not breakdown in the mid of the road, and cause trouble to the customer.
              K.Ravi

              Do check out my custom painted tail light in my DIY thread ;) ...

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              • #8
                Originally posted by rsk11584 View Post
                What is your opinion, companies should make their product more and best quality and increase the price but it should not breakdown in the mid of the road, and cause trouble to the customer.
                More tube, more cost, more money results in over engineering product. Does anyone buys it? Frankly not me!!! I've had 1 puncture in my Rx in last 12+ years of ownership, say about 50K+ Km ridden across just 2 states.

                You can opt for tubeless if you want, but the tire grade has to improve. The regular will be insufficient.
                Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
                Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
                ATGATT + Awareness + Skill means you might Live To Ride another day

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by aargee View Post
                  You can opt for tubeless if you want, but the tire grade has to improve. The regular will be insufficient.
                  I am not sure if You are aware of the fact that in order to go for a tubeless tyre one needs to make sure that the rim/alloys supports tubeless tyres.
                  Splendor wheels doesn't support tubeless tyres so the wheels needs to be changed.

                  Splendor being a commuter bike doesn't need tubeless tyres as its incapable of running at high speeds and also the prices needs to be kept low for the general public, so the manufacturers don't opt for tubeless. The only difference between tube and tubeless tyres are that if there is a puncture on a tube tyre the tyre becomes flat instantly unlike a tubeless tyre which can be ridden until the nail has been removed.

                  PS: When riding a bike with a tube tyre if the tyre gets punctured one needs to stop and remove the nail/ thorn immediately and seek help from the nearby puncture shop. If one rides/ drags the bike with the nail it will make the tube incapable of repair and the only solution is to replace.
                  Last edited by Ri$hi; 09-09-2012, 08:42 AM.

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                  • #10
                    See sir, both TT and TL have their own set of pros and cons.
                    TT tires
                    Pros:
                    1. Cheap.
                    2. Light weight.
                    3. Wider knowledge base w.r.t mechanics country wide.

                    Cons:
                    1. Immediate puncture repair needed.
                    2. Tube needs replacement after 2-3 punctures.

                    TL tires
                    Pros:
                    1. (Seems) puncture resistant.
                    This point covers all pros. You can ride till the nail has been removed. No need for replacement as long as the tire looks good, gives peace of mind etc.

                    Cons:
                    1. Costlier.
                    2. In case the rim/tire wall gets hit/punctured/torn by a nail - you have no other choice but to replace the whole tire.
                    3. Less knowledge amongst mechanics on repairing TL punctures.

                    Decide for yourself now.
                    Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                    Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                    Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                    Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                    ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                    P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                      2. In case the rim/tire wall gets hit/punctured/torn by a nail - you have no other choice but to replace the whole tire.
                      Or one can also put a tube inside the TL tyre as a temporary fix, which I personally do not recommend.

                      Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                      both TT and TL have their own set of pros and cons
                      Very true, the pros of tube tyres will be the cons of the tubeless tyres and vice versa.

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                      While riding on the chennai byepass a couple of days back I heard a loud noise, it was from a truck tyre. The vehicle lost the control for few secs, the driver was able to control the vehicle and parked it at the side. Just imagine what would be the case if this would have happened to a two wheeler when doing a triple digit speeds that too on a bridge. Tubeless tyres are more safer compared to its counterparts.
                      Last edited by Ri$hi; 09-09-2012, 01:28 PM.

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