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  • #16
    thanks. very informative . i will try this. currently i am on 3.5 turns but will check milege from 2 turns. but accidentally and very idiotically while lubricating the chain yesterday my right hand middle fingure (:P) got crushed in the chain sprocket and had 4 stitches currently. so i am unable to drive for next 15-20 days. when i get well i will share the results.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by reachsamik View Post
      thanks. very informative . i will try this. currently i am on 3.5 turns but will check milege from 2 turns. but accidentally and very idiotically while lubricating the chain yesterday my right hand middle fingure (:P) got crushed in the chain sprocket and had 4 stitches currently. so i am unable to drive for next 15-20 days. when i get well i will share the results. <img src="http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/images/smilies/frown.png" border="0" alt="" title="Frown" smilieid="11" class="inlineimg">
      oh my god ...i hope u r fine.
      okay
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      • #18
        Originally posted by karthickj View Post
        Hi man , I don't know about your spark plugs issues, and I'm not mechanically sound. But I can give solution for your mileage. If you are getting right mileage and satisfied then don't worry about these steps.

        Now take your bike for a ride about 5 km. And you must reach a road where there is no traffic or go by early morning. Take a small size screw driver.

        Now your engine must be warm. And your idle rpm must be 1000rpm. If not adjust your idle screw according.

        As per technical manual for discover/pulsar the number of turns for mileage screw is 2 - 3.5 turns from the tight / locked position. I meant 360 degree rotation for 1 round. And your best mileage should be between 2 to 3.5 full turns.

        It will be headache for us to check 1litre for every 0.25 turns. so you must start checking your right mileage starting from 2.0 turns and check by turning 0.25 turns out upto 3.5 full turns.

        you can take a piece of paper and draw your rotations [ATTACH=CONFIG]81149[/ATTACH]and mark record your mileage for every turn. See my picture how do I did and recorded.

        Now will say how to check your mileage very soon.

        1st - turn your mileage screw to full tight position
        2nd - turn to 2 full turns out and switch on the engine and check the rpm and adjust your rpm now to 1000rpm
        3rd - switch off your fuel flow from tank
        4th - your carburetor should have fuel in it. I hope this amount of fuel should give about 1.5km to get at least 55km.

        once your bike got off record your km in the paper in a separate column.
        Now open your fuel and adjust your screw from 2.0 to 2.25 position and off your fuel flow.

        I hope like this we can easily tune the carburetor for better mileage. Pls test it out give your feedback. Im sure its waste to trust these ASC guys. I think no one know about exact tuning. Only when the factory settings would be the correct one.

        Idle rpm should be between 1300-1500 rpm when engine is fully warmed up.
        for rest of the post +1.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by karthickj View Post
          Hi man , I don't know about your spark plugs issues, and I'm not mechanically sound. But I can give solution for your mileage. If you are getting right mileage and satisfied then don't worry about these steps.

          Now take your bike for a ride about 5 km. And you must reach a road where there is no traffic or go by early morning. Take a small size screw driver.

          Now your engine must be warm. And your idle rpm must be 1000rpm. If not adjust your idle screw according.

          As per technical manual for discover/pulsar the number of turns for mileage screw is 2 - 3.5 turns from the tight / locked position. I meant 360 degree rotation for 1 round. And your best mileage should be between 2 to 3.5 full turns.

          It will be headache for us to check 1litre for every 0.25 turns. so you must start checking your right mileage starting from 2.0 turns and check by turning 0.25 turns out upto 3.5 full turns.

          you can take a piece of paper and draw your rotations [ATTACH=CONFIG]81149[/ATTACH]and mark record your mileage for every turn. See my picture how do I did and recorded.

          Now will say how to check your mileage very soon.

          1st - turn your mileage screw to full tight position
          2nd - turn to 2 full turns out and switch on the engine and check the rpm and adjust your rpm now to 1000rpm
          3rd - switch off your fuel flow from tank
          4th - your carburetor should have fuel in it. I hope this amount of fuel should give about 1.5km to get at least 55km.

          once your bike got off record your km in the paper in a separate column.
          Now open your fuel and adjust your screw from 2.0 to 2.25 position and off your fuel flow.

          I hope like this we can easily tune the carburetor for better mileage. Pls test it out give your feedback. Im sure its waste to trust these ASC guys. I think no one know about exact tuning. Only when the factory settings would be the correct one.
          Dude according to u r diagram.... U mean 1 Round is 180 degree....But u said i round is 360 degress..... Which One is correct???? ! round means 180 degree or 360 degree????
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          • #20
            that diagram is 180 degree rotation only. but for one full round u shud treat as 360 degree. u need check every .25 turns till u check between 2.0 to 3.5 turns. Dont consider 180 degree shows 3.5. you have to calculate for every 180 degree rotations. And fix up which point gives more mileage.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by karthickj View Post
              that diagram is 180 degree rotation only. but for one full round u shud treat as 360 degree. u need check every .25 turns till u check between 2.0 to 3.5 turns. Dont consider 180 degree shows 3.5. you have to calculate for every 180 degree rotations. And fix up which point gives more mileage.
              I dont understand what do u say.......K tell me whether 2.0 Turn Means 180 Degree or 360 degree????? I followed u r diagram to keep 2.0 turns and later adjusted to 2.5 by seeing the RPM....Is it correct?? Plz tell as i dnt want to mess with my dads byk :P
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              • #22
                Originally posted by siddharthsure View Post
                I dont understand what do u say.......K tell me whether 2.0 Turn Means 180 Degree or 360 degree????? I followed u r diagram to keep 2.0 turns and later adjusted to 2.5 by seeing the RPM....Is it correct?? Plz tell as i dnt want to mess with my dads byk :P
                1 full rotation = 360 degree
                2 full rotations = 2*360 degrees = 720 degree
                2.5 full rotations = (2*360)+180 degree = 900 degree
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                • #23
                  Hello. Thanks all. currently i am running on 2.75 turns out from full tight on my discover and its feeling good. checked both spark plugs but noticed that one is white and another is brownish . is it ok? another big problem is my spark plugs were changed by the service center and i noticed that they changed to hotter plugs ( previously i had champion PRZ9HC [ recomended] but they fitted PRZ7HC, i complained to bajaj and the service center told that these are fine, i also checked with a local mechanic and he told me nothing will happen, but i doubt from various informations in this forum and the internet that hot plugs are not good for long runs and it may can damage the cylinder head/ piston too. also the white color of the spark plug can be because of hotter plugs.

                  so should i change them? or let them as it is.

                  Thanks. ( though its kinda foolishness to ask this question as the service manual clearly mentioned the recommended plug(PRZ9HC) but as some of the people assured me to use the (PRZ7HC) ones thats why i am little confused)
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by reachsamik View Post
                    Thanks. ( though its kinda foolishness to ask this question as the service manual clearly mentioned the recommended plug(PRZ9HC) but as some of the people assured me to use the (PRZ7HC) ones thats why i am little confused)
                    well, what you have read is a possibility. damage 'can' happen. whitish color can also be due to hotter plugs. my suggestion, go for what manual says.. even cooler (then needed) plugs are ok. but not hot ones. Also, plugs dont cost much, only 60-70 Rs. for a unit.Also update about the mileage figures..
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                    • #25
                      Yes nothing will happen, it'll only damage cylinder head when u run continuously for an hour in full throttle, with excessive load on bike.
                      Those engine get damage which runs with heavy loads which makes engine more hot and damage.
                      So, u r absolutely not going to do this, so its fine man.
                      We too use PRZ7HC recommended by the company.
                      and i think (as per your description) u got the right tuning now!
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                      • #26
                        Thanks. i searched some shops for the right plug specified in my manual but i could not found any. in every shop they are giving some random plugs by just asking "which bike i have". even in the service center the guy told me PRZ7HC & PRZ9HC are same. :X

                        Does any one knows where to get the right plug in kolkata??? until then i am continuing with this one.

                        One more thing after tuning the pick up has dropped, i need to accelerate harder to get in speeds and when closing acceleration i feel that the bike dragging slight backwards. is it ok? or i am on the very leaner side???
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by reachsamik View Post
                          Thanks. i searched some shops for the right plug specified in my manual but i could not found any. in every shop they are giving some random plugs by just asking "which bike i have". even in the service center the guy told me PRZ7HC & PRZ9HC are same. :X

                          Does any one knows where to get the right plug in kolkata??? until then i am continuing with this one.

                          One more thing after tuning the pick up has dropped, i need to accelerate harder to get in speeds and when closing acceleration i feel that the bike dragging slight backwards. is it ok? or i am on the very leaner side???
                          Both are same in shape and size but they are different in heat range. PRZ7HC is available in my city. I dont know which plug u want. u can contact the Champion Plug dealer in your area asking them directly.

                          Sounds like your mixture is rich, cant say exactly but its not correct. Re-tune it when the engine is warm. Increase the ideal rpm to 3000, then completely close the fuel or air screw what ever u have. Then, start opening it slowly and reach to the highest rpm u found. Then decrease the ideal rpm to 1400, then lean the mixture by 100 rpm i.e, 1300 rpm. This is your perfect tuning. Now decrease the ideal rpm to your desire level.
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                          • #28
                            @paul.

                            my recommended plugs are Champion PRZ9HC or BOSCH UR4AC.

                            and

                            Thanks. i did as you advised . but due to non availability of RPM gauge in my bike i am having difficulties to get the optimum point.
                            as you said

                            1.i raised the idle somewhat ( don't know it was 3000 or not,
                            2. then closed the fuel screw but when closing the screw the engine dies.
                            3. then i turn the screw 1/2 times out and start the engine, at that point engine is very unstable and likely to be shut off.
                            4. Then i turn the screw outwards slowly ( 0.25) turns at one go. at around 2.25 turns the engine sound raises, at 3.25 turns the sound raises little more and it stays almost same up to 4 turns and afterwards it decreases slowly.
                            5. i have set it to 2.5 turns out and decreased the idle slight above the point where the engine starts to stall.
                            ( i decided the idle point in this way : i rev the accelerator slightly and leave it on idle and after 15-20 seconds when i try to accelerate in one go ( slight harshly ) and the engine responds instantly otherwise the engine takes some lag to respond. )

                            I hope you understood what i did. please correct me if anything is not proper in the process.
                            Last edited by reachsamik; 10-08-2012, 01:27 AM.
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                            • #29
                              @ reachsamik
                              Look it takes practice practice practice, the more u fiddle with it, the more u learn yourself. There is not a universal setting for it. The process is same as i told. I also dont have tachometer in my bike. All we need to use our ears. Just test out the mileage on this, after that lean it slightly (this help less carbon built up) and test out the mileage u'll surely get more. Once u get a perfect area of adjustment, just fiddle it with on that area to test out for higher fuel efficiency.
                              But remember if u lean it excess...engine will warm up more.
                              check your spark plug for whitish or brownish color.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by reachsamik View Post
                                @paul.

                                my recommended plugs are Champion PRZ9HC or BOSCH UR4AC.

                                and

                                Thanks. i did as you advised . but due to non availability of RPM gauge in my bike i am having difficulties to get the optimum point.
                                as you said

                                1.i raised the idle somewhat ( don't know it was 3000 or not,
                                2. then closed the fuel screw but when closing the screw the engine dies.
                                3. then i turn the screw 1/2 times out and start the engine, at that point engine is very unstable and likely to be shut off.
                                4. Then i turn the screw outwards slowly ( 0.25) turns at one go. at around 2.25 turns the engine sound raises, at 3.25 turns the sound raises little more and it stays almost same up to 4 turns and afterwards it decreases slowly.
                                5. i have set it to 2.5 turns out and decreased the idle slight above the point where the engine starts to stall.
                                ( i decided the idle point in this way : i rev the accelerator slightly and leave it on idle and after 15-20 seconds when i try to accelerate in one go ( slight harshly ) and the engine responds instantly otherwise the engine takes some lag to respond. )

                                I hope you understood what i did. please correct me if anything is not proper in the process.
                                From what you have mentioned in point 4 above, looks like your setting should be between 3.25-3.75. I suggest you set it at 3.5turns and then check plug color,mileage and pick up and then increase of decrease in steps of 1/4th turns.

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