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**Bibhu** · 11-11-2012, 10:54 AM

Originally posted by krish2778 View Post

That is also a viable option, but mostly used exhaust you will find coming from scrap yards from totaled bikes, that's not so confidence inspiring where you have to spend 5-6k rs for that and that too in a few months will develop the same problem. Do remember that this problem is prominent among all 220's and 200's.

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Krishna

5 to 6k for a used exhaust is unreasonable. I again come back to my first idea. The 180 exhaust is cheaper and a better alternative.

I own a classic pulsar which had the oe exhaust for 8 years and 3 year old 220. I have never encountered a problem with the exhausts yet. I guess I am lucky.

**krish2778** · 11-11-2012, 11:15 AM

That was the price when i tried to source a used silencer for the 220.

I personally know quite a handfull of 220 users who had this problem after 2-3 years of useage, most within warranty replaced it, other claimed insurance, i went for RC ffe.

P.S: Wouldn't the 180 silencer cause a drop in the performance and not to mention the iconic look. The 200's always looked the most sexy, partly because of that silencer. Well functionality does trump styling, still just a personal opinion.

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Krishna

Originally posted by Bibhu View Post

5 to 6k for a used exhaust is unreasonable. I again come back to my first idea. The 180 exhaust is cheaper and a better alternative.

I own a classic pulsar which had the oe exhaust for 8 years and 3 year old 220. I have never encountered a problem with the exhausts yet. I guess I am lucky.

**Bibhu** · 11-11-2012, 01:35 PM

Originally posted by krish2778 View Post

P.S: Wouldn't the 180 silencer cause a drop in the performance and not to mention the iconic look. The 200's always looked the most sexy, partly because of that silencer. Well functionality does trump styling, still just a personal opinion.

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Krishna

I dont know. There shouldn't be a radical difference in power as both exhausts are similar and so are the engines. Inner pipe dia is almost the same. I will have to check the header and collector length. The torque curve might change a bit. I ran a classic exhaust on my 220 for a while. Mid range dropped slightly but low and top end grunt increased. Exhaust used to heat up post 100 km rides due to the thinner metal. Handling was much better though due to the 6 kilo weight loss. Sounded phenomenal.

**keshavrana** · 11-11-2012, 02:25 PM

thnx all of you for your helpful replies...
the problem is finally solved.
shocker problem --> replaced the shocker rod with the new one now working satisfactorily.
silencer problem--> went to karolbagh some shop there fixed it in just 280rs

he removed the silencer then placed a mesh inside and welded it, now working just fine

Originally posted by Bibhu View Post

I dont know. There shouldn't be a radical difference in power as both exhausts are similar and so are the engines. Inner pipe dia is almost the same. I will have to check the header and collector length. The torque curve might change a bit. I ran a classic exhaust on my 220 for a while. Mid range dropped slightly but low and top end grunt increased. Exhaust used to heat up post 100 km rides due to the thinner metal. Handling was much better though due to the 6 kilo weight loss. Sounded phenomenal.

**krish2778** · 11-11-2012, 06:55 PM

Oh, that's great, by classic silencer you mean the first pulsar's silencer ?
The weight loss is indeed very much noticed, i had replaced with RC ffe, it's super light..!! So from this i understand that there are only small changes in the pipe length and diameter and no drastic changes are taking place, unlike an ffe, am i right ?

Originally posted by Bibhu View Post

I dont know. There shouldn't be a radical difference in power as both exhausts are similar and so are the engines. Inner pipe dia is almost the same. I will have to check the header and collector length. The torque curve might change a bit. I ran a classic exhaust on my 220 for a while. Mid range dropped slightly but low and top end grunt increased. Exhaust used to heat up post 100 km rides due to the thinner metal. Handling was much better though due to the 6 kilo weight loss. Sounded phenomenal.

Now it shouldn't be a problem, but let me ask one thing, did you replace the fork oil on the other fork ? That should be done, as now both forks have oil of different age and obviously different viscosity over time for the old oil, thus causing uneven compression in both forks which can be disastrous during leaning in or under hard breaking.

What exactly was the process ? Detailed explanation for that will be much appreciated, can be a solution which can be posted on the 220 ownership thread.

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Krishna

Originally posted by keshavrana View Post

thnx all of you for your helpful replies...
the problem is finally solved.
shocker problem --> replaced the shocker rod with the new one now working satisfactorily.
silencer problem--> went to karolbagh some shop there fixed it in just 280rs he removed the silencer then placed a mesh inside and welded it, now working just fine

**Bibhu** · 11-11-2012, 07:50 PM

Originally posted by keshavrana View Post

thnx all of you for your helpful replies...
the problem is finally solved.
shocker problem --> replaced the shocker rod with the new one now working satisfactorily.
silencer problem--> went to karolbagh some shop there fixed it in just 280rs

he removed the silencer then placed a mesh inside and welded it, now working just fine

Make sure both fork oil seals have been changed and oil has been changed in both tubes. Opening and welding exhausts may cause rust build up real quick. Thus I am not a big fan of repairing replaceable exhausts. Hope it works out for you.

Originally posted by krish2778 View Post

Oh, that's great, by classic silencer you mean the first pulsar's silencer ?
The weight loss is indeed very much noticed, i had replaced with RC ffe, it's super light..!! So from this i understand that there are only small changes in the pipe length and diameter and no drastic changes are taking place, unlike an ffe, am i right ?

Cheers Mate
Ride Safe
Krishna

Yes. FFEs are only oriented towards performance whereas factory exhausts are made to strike a balance between performance, efficiency, emission and noise reduction. So Similar engines mean similar exhausts as they are based on the same platform. The classic (first pulsar) exhaust is shorter in overall length though.

FFE is not just about pipe dia and length. The shape of the megaphone or the end can (whichever applicable) also needs to be calculated in order to create proper negative pressure for low end punch.

You said something about the t-stem being scratched a few posts back. Can you elaborate on that?

**krish2778** · 11-11-2012, 09:39 PM

Yes, i had the same situation sometime back about a month back actually, i had busted my left side fork oil seal, i dint notice it until a few days i think, and i was riding through some really bad patches of road at those days, so the delay in changing the seal and loss of lot of fork oil caused the stem to get scratched or scored, part of reason was also that, my bike was 2 years old and never once was the fork oil replaced or the seals touched. So the oil has already lost its properties, adding to the wear of the stem.
So i visited my mech, he told that stem was scratched , he dint have the stem spare so, i told him to put in new seal and i'll get the stem changed when part arrives, he told that riding with a scratched stem will only lead to busting the oil seal again.

In my case, it was the old fork oil and some really bumpy roads traveled with a busted oil seal that caused the stem to get scratched. This can also happen if the fork is bend.

I hope i answered what you were looking for.

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Krishna

Originally posted by Bibhu View Post

You said something about the t-stem being scratched a few posts back. Can you elaborate on that?

**Bibhu** · 11-11-2012, 09:48 PM

This is the first I have heard of a T-stem getting scratched.

You are referring to this part that goes in to the chassis and on which the steering racer (cone and balls) sit, right?

**Natfx7** · 11-11-2012, 10:44 PM

I have a 3 year old Pulsar 180 UG 4. Today while cleaning the bike I slept to clean the bottom. I noticed some strange 1 mm hole at the bottom of the silencer behind the small steel rectangle plate on it. There is no sign of rust around the hole. My bike's sound is fine.

Is it default design as it looks neatly pinned hole or is it some other cause ?

**Bibhu** · 11-11-2012, 10:57 PM

Originally posted by Natfx7 View Post

I have a 3 year old Pulsar 180 UG 4. Today while cleaning the bike I slept to clean the bottom. I noticed some strange 1 mm hole at the bottom of the silencer behind the small steel rectangle plate on it. There is no sign of rust around the hole. My bike's sound is fine.

Is it default design as it looks neatly pinned hole or is it some other cause ?

it is there to let water out.

**krish2778** · 11-11-2012, 11:28 PM

Nope mate, i think i got confused about the part, i'm talking about the silver tubes entering into the black part of the front suspension unit , the forks mate.

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Krishna

Originally posted by Bibhu View Post

This is the first I have heard of a T-stem getting scratched.

You are referring to this part that goes in to the chassis and on which the steering racer (cone and balls) sit, right?

**Bibhu** · 11-12-2012, 03:26 AM

Originally posted by krish2778 View Post

Nope mate, i think i got confused about the part, i'm talking about the silver tubes entering into the black part of the front suspension unit , the forks mate.

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Krishna

Oh, you mean the fork inner tube. That clears it up. Thank you. Its a common problem if you dont change busted oil seals in time. I think the service manual recomends changing the fork oil and oil seals every 10,000 kms to avoid damage.

**Veeral** · 11-12-2012, 04:17 AM

Re: Front shocker and silencer issue on my Pulsar 200

By the way, does each inner tube (stem) costs 900-950 or both for 950/- ?

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**krish2778** · 11-12-2012, 08:03 AM

Yup mate, i hadn't cahnged mine until i had to with a busted seal at about 50k kms on ODO.

Originally posted by Bibhu View Post

Oh, you mean the fork inner tube. That clears it up. Thank you. Its a common problem if you dont change busted oil seals in time. I think the service manual recomends changing the fork oil and oil seals every 10,000 kms to avoid damage.

Each costs about 900/- mate

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Krishna

Originally posted by Veeral View Post

By the way, does each inner tube (stem) costs 900-950 or both for 950/- ?

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