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    I have come across a guy who is selling this unused API tech EFI advanced for CBR250 for a good deal. It has just one preset map, and AFR alter knobs. It is said that it has rev limiter at 12.5k RPM.

    Primarily it boosts up low end torque and is preferred for slight mods like exhaust and air filters.

    But what worries me is that I have to splice some ECU wires to install this.

    And BTW, after installation, the mods I would be going for is just a 13T front sprocket and a BMC or K&N filter. Exhaust is doubtful as I would like to keep its cosmetics as stock as possible.

    I cannot find a single detail about this piggback in the whole wide google. So please advice on this guys. The below picture is the piggyback I'm about to get
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    Re: API tech EFI advance for CBR250

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    • #3
      Re: API tech EFI advance for CBR250

      Originally posted by The Monk View Post
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      • #4
        Re: API tech EFI advance for CBR250

        Originally posted by rockingrider View Post
        It is said that it has rev limiter at 12.5k RPM
        What's the point when the bike struggles to get past 9.5K RPM?

        Originally posted by rockingrider View Post
        And BTW, after installation, the mods I would be going for is just a 13T front sprocket and a BMC or K&N filter. Exhaust is doubtful as I would like to keep its cosmetics as stock as possible
        You've 13T + the above map & your speedo will certainly show more optimism; but the truth is, it's a headache tablet wrapped in steroid covers hehe
        Last edited by aargee; 08-23-2013, 12:52 AM.
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        Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
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        • #5
          Re: API tech EFI advance for CBR250

          Originally posted by aargee View Post
          What's the point when the bike struggles to get past 9.5K RPM?
          The RPM reaches 10+k till 4th gear and I can feel that rev limiter kicking in. So my thought was that it will help me till this gear, as the preset map Is torquey and will better up RPM levels at 2.5k itself. As my travel is 80% city based, I felt it would help me.

          You've 13T + the above map & your speedo will certainly show more optimism; but the truth is, it's a headache table wrapped in steroid covers hehe
          Yes. I was worried about the consequences primarily. I know that all this will result in negative side of FE, but can you throw some light on the further issues I may face in the longer run?


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          Last edited by rockingrider; 08-22-2013, 10:45 PM.
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          • #6
            Re: API tech EFI advance for CBR250

            by the looks, it looks pretty low tech.

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            you want info... here you go-->>

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onbEfmBhjFs

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5cS3dhNgSk

            http://www.apitechonline.com/Shopping/

            https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.228856723830613.53925.155692534480366&type= 3

            how come my google is more effective than yours..?? :P

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            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5cS3dhNgSk

            http://www.apitechonline.com/Shopping/

            https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.228856723830613.53925.155692534480366&type= 3

            seems like my google is more effective then yours....

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            http://www.apitechonline.com/Shopping/

            https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.228856723830613.53925.155692534480366&type= 3

            seems like my google is more effective than yours...
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            • #7
              Re: API tech EFI advance for CBR250

              Originally posted by rockingrider View Post
              The RPM reaches 10+k till 4th gear and I can feel that rev limiter kicking in
              Feeling is different from reality; you're from Chennai right? Try doing the rev limit cutter at 6th gear between Sriperambadur towards Vellore & post the outcome. The worst you can do in 6th will be not more than 140 at any time during the day or night.

              Originally posted by rockingrider View Post
              So my thought was that it will help me till this gear, as the preset map Is torquey and will better up RPM levels at 2.5k itself. As my travel is 80% city based, I felt it would help me
              In the city? You want to more torque? More than what a 25 Bhp machine can do? That too at 12.5K RPM? Please...also let others live hehe

              Originally posted by rockingrider View Post
              Yes. I was worried about the consequences primarily. I know that all this will result in negative side of FE, but can you throw some light on the further issues I may face in the longer run?
              On 13T? Pls learn the difference between digital speedo & cabled speedo & you'll understand the difference as why the optimism occurs. You'll have to learn how the sensor helps to determine the speed from gear main shaft (which is discussed in the CBR 250R FAQ), other than this, I know nothing. But all I know is one simple & best option...keep it stock, have a reliable machine, maintain it well, use it wise & stay away from mods that you do not understand. If you want to do perf mod, pls LEARN & do it like a pro like one our member shv18 did on his FZ16. If you don't understand, then stay off

              Reg K&N - ஷ்ஷஷபா...முடியல, முடியல (For people who don't understand Tamil, it's a famous (sane & clean) comedy dialogue from the movie 23rd Pulikesi Tamil movie)

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              Last edited by aargee; 08-23-2013, 12:51 AM.
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              Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
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              • #8
                Re: API tech EFI advance for CBR250

                Originally posted by aargee View Post
                Feeling is different from reality; you're from Chennai right? Try doing the rev limit cutter at 6th gear between Sriperambadur towards Vellore & post the outcome. The worst you can do in 6th will be not more than 140 at any time during the day or night.


                In the city? You want to more torque? More than what a 25 Bhp machine can do? That too at 12.5K RPM? Please...also let others live hehe


                On 13T? Pls learn the difference between digital speedo & cabled speedo & you'll understand the difference as why the optimism occurs. You'll have to learn how the sensor helps to determine the speed from gear main shaft (which is discussed in the CBR 250R FAQ), other than this, I know nothing. But all I know is one simple & best option...keep it stock, have a reliable machine, maintain it well, use it wise & stay away from mods that you do not understand. If you want to do perf mod, pls LEARN & do it like a pro like one our member shv18 did on his FZ16. If you don't understand, then stay off

                Reg K&N - ஷ்ஷஷபா...முடியல, முடியல (For people who don't understand Tamil, it's a famous (sane & clean) comedy dialogue from the movie 23rd Pulikesi Tamil movie)

                RG over & out
                Staying out of it unless I perfectly understand what I am doing. Thanks for clearing the confusions.

                BTW, read the article about filters posted by psr ji just after posting this topic, so that is off the list too.

                Staying stock as for now.

                Ellam thangalidam kuditha yaanaipaal mannah!!

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                • #9
                  Re: API tech EFI advance for CBR250

                  Originally posted by aargee View Post
                  Feeling is different from reality.........

                  On 13T? Pls learn the difference between digital speedo & cabled speedo & you'll understand the difference as why the optimism occurs. You'll have to learn how the sensor helps to determine the speed from gear main shaft (which is discussed in the CBR 250R FAQ), other than this, I know nothing. But all I know is one simple & best option...keep it stock, have a reliable machine, maintain it well, use it wise & stay away from mods that you do not understand. If you want to do perf mod, pls LEARN & do it like a pro like one our member shv18 did on his FZ16. If you don't understand, then stay off

                  Reg K&N - ஷ்ஷஷபா...முடியல, முடியல (For people who don't understand Tamil, it's a famous (sane & clean) comedy dialogue from the movie 23rd Pulikesi Tamil movie)

                  RG over & out

                  Saaar, i am no expert or pro.... still learning more about hot roding everyday and how to keep the engine safe by bugging our resident expert and knowledge source PSR Ji and many other senior riders .

                  Originally posted by rockingrider View Post
                  Staying out of it unless I perfectly understand what I am doing. Thanks for clearing the confusions.

                  BTW, read the article about filters posted by psr ji just after posting this topic, so that is off the list too.

                  Staying stock as for now.

                  Ellam thangalidam kuditha yaanaipaal mannah!!

                  Sent via Rotten Tomato from Wonderland.
                  This sounds like another snake oil that is being sold to the unsuspecting users. Most likely it has a series of resistors which increase or decrease the electrical information sent to the ECU to make it think that the engine is running lean and then the stock ECU with its preset maps will try and increase the fuelling thus, the rider feels more power etc. Reverse can be applied in pursuit for more FE. Not worth it.

                  If hot roding is what you are really looking at then i really hope that you have some top $s spare in change.

                  You may look at Dyno Jet Fuel Controller: Dynojet Fuel Controller (DFC)

                  Or Else Bazzaz Z-Fi fuel controller: Bazzaz Z-Fi Fuel Controller Yamaha R1 2009-2013 - RevZilla

                  Both of them are a piggyback system to the stock ECU.

                  More info on the same: CBR250R, Dynojet Fuel Controller vs Bazzaz Z-FI - Honda CBR250R Forum : Honda CBR 250 Forums

                  Please note, that for more power you will have to spend money on a good Full exhaust system and a good air filter purely on performance basis and not keeping stock reliability into factor.

                  Some of the videos related to the devices mentioned:

                  honda cbr250r akrapovic full system & dynojet dfc - YouTube

                  Bazzaz Fuel Controller - YouTube

                  CBR250R Race Kit Installation: Inside the Box - YouTube

                  All of these are super expensive. Unless you are into hot roding, spare yourself the misery and rather use the money for the next higher CC bike. You can get a good 2nd hand Ninja 650R for prices fitting your wallet nowadays.. so may be keeping that in mind will help.


                  Cheers,
                  Last edited by shv18; 08-23-2013, 04:29 AM.
                  A quote by a toilet, " use me well, keep me clean, i would never tell anybody whatever i have seen.." :P

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                  • #10
                    Re: API tech EFI advance for CBR250

                    Time & again have been repeating this...
                    Cheap & Reliable is not Fast
                    Fast & Cheap is not Reliable
                    Reliable & Fast is not Cheap
                    Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
                    Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
                    ATGATT + Awareness + Skill means you might Live To Ride another day

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                    • #11
                      Re: API tech EFI advance for CBR250

                      Originally posted by shv18 View Post
                      Saaar, i am no expert or pro.... still learning more about hot roding everyday and how to keep the engine safe by bugging our resident expert and knowledge source PSR Ji and many other senior riders .



                      This sounds like another snake oil that is being sold to the unsuspecting users. Most likely it has a series of resistors which increase or decrease the electrical information sent to the ECU to make it think that the engine is running lean and then the stock ECU with its preset maps will try and increase the fuelling thus, the rider feels more power etc. Reverse can be applied in pursuit for more FE. Not worth it.

                      If hot roding is what you are really looking at then i really hope that you have some top $s spare in change.

                      You may look at Dyno Jet Fuel Controller: Dynojet Fuel Controller (DFC)

                      Or Else Bazzaz Z-Fi fuel controller: Bazzaz Z-Fi Fuel Controller Yamaha R1 2009-2013 - RevZilla

                      Both of them are a piggyback system to the stock ECU.

                      More info on the same: CBR250R, Dynojet Fuel Controller vs Bazzaz Z-FI - Honda CBR250R Forum : Honda CBR 250 Forums

                      Please note, that for more power you will have to spend money on a good Full exhaust system and a good air filter purely on performance basis and not keeping stock reliability into factor.

                      Some of the videos related to the devices mentioned:

                      honda cbr250r akrapovic full system & dynojet dfc - YouTube

                      Bazzaz Fuel Controller - YouTube

                      CBR250R Race Kit Installation: Inside the Box - YouTube

                      All of these are super expensive. Unless you are into hot roding, spare yourself the misery and rather use the money for the next higher CC bike. You can get a good 2nd hand Ninja 650R for prices fitting your wallet nowadays.. so may be keeping that in mind will help.


                      Cheers,
                      Considering the reliability, cost involved vs performance gains, I think the mods I do is not worthy, since I can get a D390 i that price bracket or save more bucks for a mini SBK. Thank you for these valuable inputs. Helped a tonne in making decisions.


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