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  • Honda CB Unicorn power problem

    Hi all,

    Firstly, I'm new to riding and didn't have much experience before I purchased a Honda CB Unicorn about 2 months ago. I was told to not go beyond 40 kmph before the first service and I did as told. First service done, I began exploring the bike to see what it could do.

    The problem now is, I do not believe that my bike is giving the kind of power it's supposed to, but since I'm a newbie and don't know about the technical aspects I thought I'd ask here first. Following is the brief summary of the problem:

    - Bike feels like it's making a lot of effort even to reach 60 kmph at the top gear. There are vibrations, and if I try to give it throttle beyond 60, there's an audible whistling sound. (I've heard of Unicorns in general reaching higher speeds with a fair amount of ease and am perplexed by this.)

    - Even in the 3rd gear, I can feel vibrations when it reaches 40 kmph and have to ride at higher gears for anything beyond 40.

    I'd like to know if there's something wrong with the bike, or it's just me expecting too much. It would be great if somebody would help me with the max speed a Unicorn reaches on various gears.

    Second service date is approaching and I hope to have some clarity on this before I speak to service person.

    Thanks for the time!

  • #2
    Re: Honda CB Unicorn power problem

    Query Approved

    Just a little thought from my side, first off, never ride the bike in high gear at low speeds and then gun the throttle. In any bike the lower gears are there to give the bike enough momentum and then shift to higher gears for good top speed.

    Try shifting at a 6500 to 7000 RPM from 3rd gear and above and see how it fares. Also never redline the engine in 1st and 2nd they are there to give you the intial torque momentum and after third you can safely reach the limit.

    Cheers!
    VJ
    Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
    The girl said, 'NO!'


    And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


    THE END

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    • #3
      Re: Honda CB Unicorn power problem

      Originally posted by Surreal_Mirage View Post

      - Bike feels like it's making a lot of effort even to reach 60 kmph at the top gear. There are vibrations, and if I try to give it throttle beyond 60, there's an audible whistling sound. (I've heard of Unicorns in general reaching higher speeds with a fair amount of ease and am perplexed by this.)

      - Even in the 3rd gear, I can feel vibrations when it reaches 40 kmph and have to ride at higher gears for anything beyond 40.

      I'd like to know if there's something wrong with the bike, or it's just me expecting too much. It would be great if somebody would help me with the max speed a Unicorn reaches on various gears.

      Second service date is approaching and I hope to have some clarity on this before I speak to service person.

      Thanks for the time!
      Firstly welcome to Xbhp. . .

      Now coming to your problem,
      1. If the bike isn't going beyond 60 kph, then that's a fault with the diaphragm rubber. . .
      2. Bike doesn't accelerate properly might also be due to other things, lose chain, low tire pressure, etc., get those all checked. . .
      3. Vibrations aren't supposed to be coming at that low speed IMO, never ridden the latest Unicorn but I don't find vibrations at that low speed. . .
      4. As said by the Mod above, never redline in first two gears, start redlining after 3rd gear. . .
      5. Are the vibrations too much or just minor. . ? If it's too much then you gotta show it to the SVC and as your bike is under warranty, you'll get almost everything done free of cost. . .
      6. I don't know exactly about the maximum speeds in each gears but mine's a bit tuned for more power and better acceleration compared to stock unicorn and mine can reach around 80 or so kph at redline. . . Stock unicorn comes with a top speed of 101 kph in normal road and up to 105-107 in slope. . . Mine's on the other side has a top end of 115-119 kph. . .

      Cheers!!!
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      • #4
        Re: Honda CB Unicorn power problem

        Hi again,

        Firstly, thanks for all the helpful tips. I've been incorporating the gear shifting tips from the Mod as well as my friends and issue seems to have solved somewhat. A little more riding and exploring later... there's still one bother and I'll try to be as specific as I can with it this time:

        The third gear is something I use the most while negotiating the city traffic and cruising along, and the bike moves fine until it hits speeds of 40 kmph. Once the needle has crossed this (specifically around 44-45) I start getting an audible ringing sound (the sound is actually closer to a flute if I had to narrow it down) and it only gets louder if I try to give it more throttle (all of this on the 3rd gear). At this point, I either move to a higher gear or simply slow down.

        Up until now, I thought this strange sound is probably an indication that the bike can go no more at the current gear and I've to move upwards. But another incident just this morning got me thinking...

        As usual I moved up from the 3rd gear to the 4th once the bike was beyond 40, but seconds later as soon as the needle crossed 50, the ringing sound was back and I couldn't believe this happened. I stopped gunning the throttle for a couple of seconds and tried again without any gear changes. This time, the bike raced ahead beyond 60 with no problems.

        So, to sum up my questions:

        Is it normal to get the above ringing sound under the circumstances mentioned?

        If not, what could be the possible causes for this?

        I wasn't able to notice the rpm numbers when this happened. Will keep an eye on it as well.

        I know it's a pretty long description of the problem. Thanks again for taking the time!

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        • #5
          Re: Honda CB Unicorn power problem

          Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
          Query Approved

          Just a little thought from my side, first off, never ride the bike in high gear at low speeds and then gun the throttle. In any bike the lower gears are there to give the bike enough momentum and then shift to higher gears for good top speed.

          Try shifting at a 6500 to 7000 RPM from 3rd gear and above and see how it fares. Also never redline the engine in 1st and 2nd they are there to give you the intial torque momentum and after third you can safely reach the limit.

          Cheers!
          VJ
          Sir about that not redlining in 1,2 gear. ..should I follow that in my 200ns. .? As I always redline in 1 gear.

          Hello all ;-)
          http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagat_Singh.

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          • #6
            Re: Honda CB Unicorn power problem

            Originally posted by shadowgun View Post
            Sir about that not redlining in 1,2 gear. ..should I follow that in my 200ns. .? As I always redline in 1 gear.

            Hello all ;-)
            The thing is, why do you have to red line ?
            We don't get the max power at red line. Its well before that. Also, you would be causing harm to the engine by doing this often. If you want to stay in the power zone, shift at 6-7k rpm and the bike would be much happy.

            Ride safe and have fun.
            Regards
            Nadeem

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            • #7
              Re: Honda CB Unicorn power problem

              Originally posted by nadz11.ns View Post
              The thing is, why do you have to red line ?
              We don't get the max power at red line. Its well before that. Also, you would be causing harm to the engine by doing this often. If you want to stay in the power zone, shift at 6-7k rpm and the bike would be much happy.
              Yes around 8.5 k rpm to be precise, that's the rpm band for which I spend 1L₹ . ,below 5-6k rpm, it's just like those 150CC bikes, sounds like them, throttle to 7.5k rpm+ BanG booM woo,you get pasia vasooled.

              Hello all ;-)
              http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagat_Singh.

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              • #8
                Re: Honda CB Unicorn power problem

                Originally posted by shadowgun View Post
                Yes around 8.5 k rpm to be precise, that's the rpm band for which I spend 1L₹ . ,below 5-6k rpm, it's just like those 150CC bikes, sounds like them, throttle to 7.5k rpm+ BanG booM woo,you get pasia vasooled.

                Hello all ;-)
                Yea, I was saying by experience of a 150cc engine
                Then change at 8k rpm.. Redling is good once in a while, but on daily basis. Naa..

                Ride safe and have fun.
                Regards
                Nadeem

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                • #9
                  Re: Honda CB Unicorn power problem

                  Originally posted by nadz11.ns View Post
                  Yea, I was saying by experience of a 150cc engine
                  Then change at 8k rpm.. Redling is good once in a while, but on daily basis. Naa..
                  In my case, I dumped Run in at exact 700kms, from then, I've been shifting-riding above 8k rpms constantly and now at 3k km on odo, never felt like p150,180,220 engines. Man I'm in love.
                  By the way sir, if I continue to ride like this, which things will go kaput. .? My run is not that much, I ride like 3-5kms per day (3k kms in 8months) ,and if you know, can you mention their indicating prices. .?(I know clutch plates will go off sure)

                  Hello all ;-)
                  http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagat_Singh.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Honda CB Unicorn power problem

                    Originally posted by shadowgun View Post
                    In my case, I dumped Run in at exact 700kms, from then, I've been shifting-riding above 8k rpms constantly and now at 3k km on odo, never felt like p150,180,220 engines. Man I'm in love.
                    By the way sir, if I continue to ride like this, which things will go kaput. .? My run is not that much, I ride like 3-5kms per day (3k kms in 8months) ,and if you know, can you mention their indicating prices. .?(I know clutch plates will go off sure)
                    Hello all ;-)
                    Not sure of what might go kaput, parts won't fail unless driven badly for a very long time. Just the wear rate of the parts will increase. Change the oil regularly and enjoy the ride
                    You don't ride much, so ride as you wish.

                    and i am no sir Just a noob here.

                    Ride safe and have fun.
                    Regards
                    Nadeem

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                    • #11
                      Re: Honda CB Unicorn power problem

                      Originally posted by nadz11.ns View Post
                      Not sure of what might go kaput, parts won't fail unless driven badly for a very long time. Just the wear rate of the parts will increase. Change the oil regularly and enjoy the ride
                      You don't ride much, so ride as you wish.

                      and i am no sir Just a noob here.
                      a lesser noob than me
                      Well currently on motul 3100 20w50 ,had brought it with my friend and must say bike loved it. Only problem is,gears now feels that they have become more taller than normal, don't know why but I hate it ad I have to shift a lot, I wish my ns can have a shorter gearing like r15

                      Shaeed~E~Azam Bhagat Singh Ji.
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