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  • Problem with my old stunner! Help please!!

    Allright will try to keep it simple..!
    Been using Stunner carb one for last 3 years..it has completed 25000 kms on the odo and my bike gave an average of 30-35 kmpl and my best speed was 90 kmph and that too while going downhill on the flyover, the bike vibrated at around 25-30 kmph speed..it would stop after a gear change and would return at 50kmph..the max it would go at 4th gear was 40 kmph..but was lazy enough to take measures for the same..
    However after reading this thread, i have figured out various things i need to do..
    1. Check the air filter and oil filter.
    2. Need to tune the bike properly
    3. will change the front sprocket to Unicorn's 15t
    4. will use some other oil apart from castrol..maybe motul

    Some help i need though..

    1. the suspensions not so good on comparison with other bikes..and it is clearly visible on the potholed mumbai roads. Cost of changing the suspension2. My silencer is somewhat damaged cause it makes more noise than the other stunners..Cost for the same.

    Is this enough or i need to do something else also..?
    Pls suggest..
    I have nil experience about all the servicing stuff..my brother would take the bike for servicing..
    Some other suggestions also welcome..as i want to have a thorough experience about these things on my old stunner before i take a new bike..
    Thanks..

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    Re: Problem with my old stunner! Help please!!

    Thread Approved.

    and my best speed was 90 kmph and that too while going downhill on the flyover
    Seriously it gave me a good cracking, up.

    Ride safe!

    Cheers!
    VJ
    Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
    The girl said, 'NO!'


    And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


    THE END

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    • #3
      Re: Problem with my old stunner! Help please!!

      Originally posted by ani2607 View Post
      1. Check the air filter and oil filter. Yes you need to do it. ..
      2. Need to tune the bike properly
      Get it done from a SVC or a well known mechanic, . .
      3. will change the front sprocket to Unicorn's 15t
      What is Stunner's front spocket. . ?
      4. will use some other oil apart from castrol..maybe motul
      Go with Shell Advance Ax7, a bit cheaper compared to Motul but still worth the price, will make your engine butter smooth and provide more mileage. . .

      Some help i need though..

      1. the suspensions not so good on comparison with other bikes..and it is clearly visible on the potholed mumbai roads. Cost of changing the suspension2. My silencer is somewhat damaged cause it makes more noise than the other stunners..Cost for the same. I think the suspension might be around 1500rs for one side, not sure though, ask the spare parts shop in the Showroom. . .

      Is this enough or i need to do something else also..?
      Pls suggest..
      I have nil experience about all the servicing stuff..my brother would take the bike for servicing..
      Some other suggestions also welcome..as i want to have a thorough experience about these things on my old stunner before i take a new bike..
      Thanks..
      Answers not in Bold . . .

      Now coming to servicing, let me put my points. . .
      1. Complete servicing including washing. . .
      2. Check for sprockets and get it tightened which will be done in servicing , . .
      3. Get yourself a chain lube something like Motul which will cost you 230rs or if you think that's bit costly, go with 90 grade oil, anything from Castrol will do, costs 120 rs for 500 ml, it is bit messy but will do the job very well. . .
      4. Learn to do basic fixes for yourself, like cleaning the chain once every 500-1000kms and keep them lubed once in a week. . .
      5. Replace parts, any parts like screws, nuts or any other broken parts. . .
      6. For front shock absorbers, replace the shocks oil with new one, that is 120rs per bottle INR. . .
      7. I think that's all is enough, you will have a clean new bike that is ready to rock. . .
      8. About the speed issue, I think the diaphragm set might have a problem, may be that might require replacement or adjustment. . .

      So I think you can calculate the overall pricing of all. . .

      Cheers!!!
      Yamaha Rx135 - 2005 - 2007 (stolen :mad:)
      Scooty Pep - 2008 - 2012 (sold)
      Honda Unicorn - 2012 - 2015 (crashed)
      Hero Honda Splendor+ 2015 - present (temporary ride)
      Bajaj Pulsar AS200 - 16th September 2015 - present ride

      10 years into riding :D
      Live2Race. . .

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      • #4
        Re: Problem with my old stunner! Help please!!

        Originally posted by Rakesh Rok View Post
        Answers not in Bold . . .

        Now coming to servicing, let me put my points. . .
        1. Complete servicing including washing. . .
        2. Check for sprockets and get it tightened which will be done in servicing , . .
        3. Get yourself a chain lube something like Motul which will cost you 230rs or if you think that's bit costly, go with 90 grade oil, anything from Castrol will do, costs 120 rs for 500 ml, it is bit messy but will do the job very well. . .
        4. Learn to do basic fixes for yourself, like cleaning the chain once every 500-1000kms and keep them lubed once in a week. . .
        5. Replace parts, any parts like screws, nuts or any other broken parts. . .
        6. For front shock absorbers, replace the shocks oil with new one, that is 120rs per bottle INR. . .
        7. I think that's all is enough, you will have a clean new bike that is ready to rock. . .
        8. About the speed issue, I think the diaphragm set might have a problem, may be that might require replacement or adjustment. . .

        So I think you can calculate the overall pricing of all. . .

        Cheers!!!
        Thnks for the help..although i guess i need more help on the top speed part though..will anyways check with the diaphragm part with the help of svc guys..
        and yea i really need to learn all the oiling and lubing part...

        What is Stunner's front spocket. . ?
        Its 14t..i myself read about it on one of the threads..the guys there told if its changed to uni's 15t, the vibrations will reduce considerably and the top speed too will increase but with a dent in initial acceleration..

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        • #5
          Re: Problem with my old stunner! Help please!!

          Originally posted by ani2607 View Post
          Thnks for the help..although i guess i need more help on the top speed part though..will anyways check with the diaphragm part with the help of svc guys..
          and yea i really need to learn all the oiling and lubing part...


          Its 14t..i myself read about it on one of the threads..the guys there told if its changed to uni's 15t, the vibrations will reduce considerably and the top speed too will increase but with a dent in initial acceleration..
          Changing sprocket from 14t to 15t yes will do what youve mentioned but I don't really know if it'll solve vibrations though... when you hit that RPM patch it will vibrate albeit a little later than before while accelerating if you use a 15t sprocket.

          Youve mentioned earlier that the bike does 90 only downhill on a flyover... don't really know if you'll appreciate the sprocket change... if the road is flat it might not even have enough torque to take the 15t sprocket all the way up... but if you've read user reviews about it and confirmed... I guess it'll be alright... Make sure you solve engine problem before changing sprocket.

          Can you tell me if this started after an attempted speed run or extra pushing?

          Have you regularly checked oil levels? Have you ridden with less oil anytime in the past?

          Is there a lot of smoke in the exhaust or is it the same? Colour of smoke?


          Initially it just seems like a clog in the carburetor or the bike's breathing. You'll have to get in from that point with a good mechanic and see if the problem is sorted. If not then we'll have to see what else could be wrong... Like recommended get chain tightness and lubrication checked at SVC too (Not too much of a big deal and there are lovely elaborate DIY threads with pics if you do want to learn how to)... for now you can maybe just get it sorted at SVC as there are other issues too... But get to an SVC soon, even for the latest part prices and service charges.

          ----consecutive posts auto-merged-----

          Originally posted by ani2607 View Post
          Thnks for the help..although i guess i need more help on the top speed part though..will anyways check with the diaphragm part with the help of svc guys..
          and yea i really need to learn all the oiling and lubing part...


          Its 14t..i myself read about it on one of the threads..the guys there told if its changed to uni's 15t, the vibrations will reduce considerably and the top speed too will increase but with a dent in initial acceleration..
          Changing sprocket from 14t to 15t yes will do what youve mentioned but I don't really know if it'll solve vibrations though... when you hit that RPM patch it will vibrate albeit a little later than before while accelerating if you use a 15t sprocket.

          Youve mentioned earlier that the bike does 90 only downhill on a flyover... don't really know if you'll appreciate the sprocket change... if the road is flat it might not even have enough torque to take the 15t sprocket all the way up... but if you've read user reviews about it and confirmed... I guess it'll be alright... Make sure you solve engine problem before changing sprocket.

          Can you tell me if this started after an attempted speed run or extra pushing?

          Have you regularly checked oil levels? Have you ridden with less oil anytime in the past?

          Is there a lot of smoke in the exhaust or is it the same? Colour of smoke?


          Initially it just seems like a clog in the carburetor or the bike's breathing. You'll have to get in from that point with a good mechanic and see if the problem is sorted. If not then we'll have to see what else could be wrong... Like recommended get chain tightness and lubrication checked at SVC too (Not too much of a big deal and there are lovely elaborate DIY threads with pics if you do want to learn how to)... for now you can maybe just get it sorted at SVC as there are other issues too... But get to an SVC soon, even for the latest part prices and service charges.

          ----consecutive posts auto-merged-----

          Originally posted by ani2607 View Post
          Thnks for the help..although i guess i need more help on the top speed part though..will anyways check with the diaphragm part with the help of svc guys..
          and yea i really need to learn all the oiling and lubing part...


          Its 14t..i myself read about it on one of the threads..the guys there told if its changed to uni's 15t, the vibrations will reduce considerably and the top speed too will increase but with a dent in initial acceleration..
          Changing sprocket from 14t to 15t yes will do what youve mentioned but I don't really know if it'll solve vibrations though... when you hit that RPM patch it will vibrate albeit a little later than before while accelerating if you use a 15t sprocket.

          Youve mentioned earlier that the bike does 90 only downhill on a flyover... don't really know if you'll appreciate the sprocket change... if the road is flat it might not even have enough torque to take the 15t sprocket all the way up... but if you've read user reviews about it and confirmed... I guess it'll be alright... Make sure you solve engine problem before changing sprocket.

          Can you tell me if this started after an attempted speed run or extra pushing?

          Have you regularly checked oil levels? Have you ridden with less oil anytime in the past?

          Is there a lot of smoke in the exhaust or is it the same? Colour of smoke?


          Initially it just seems like a clog in the carburetor or the bike's breathing. You'll have to get in from that point with a good mechanic and see if the problem is sorted. If not then we'll have to see what else could be wrong... Like recommended get chain tightness and lubrication checked at SVC too (Not too much of a big deal and there are lovely elaborate DIY threads with pics if you do want to learn how to)... for now you can maybe just get it sorted at SVC as there are other issues too... But get to an SVC soon, even for the latest part prices and service charges.

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          • #6
            Re: Problem with my old stunner! Help please!!

            Originally posted by ani2607 View Post
            Thnks for the help..although i guess i need more help on the top speed part though..will anyways check with the diaphragm part with the help of svc guys..
            and yea i really need to learn all the oiling and lubing part...


            Its 14t..i myself read about it on one of the threads..the guys there told if its changed to uni's 15t, the vibrations will reduce considerably and the top speed too will increase but with a dent in initial acceleration..
            Let me keep it short and simple. . . These bikes, 125cc to 150cc, even if given around 150kph or so top end, we won't be able to enjoy it, a minimum of 1/4L motorcycle is ideal for you to ride in top speed. . . So stop worrying about top end and get the bike in shape first. . . The reason saying these bikes are not good for top end,
            1. No wind protection. . .
            2. Bike vibrates a lot. . . I don't feel like riding my cousin's RTR180 at top speed cos of it's vibrations but enjoyed riding a CBR250R which I took until 135kph and there was a curve after that, so had to slow down. . .
            3. If you keep riding the bike in top end, your engine's gonna die very soon, so best is to make the bike fit first. . .

            Your things to do now,
            1. Make bike back to being fit. . .
            2. Ask the mechanic to keep the bike a little on the richer side so that you'll feel a bit more acceleration. . .
            3. Keep chain slag and tire pressure checked. . .
            4. Time to time servicing. . .
            5. Proper oil change interval. . .

            The mechanic was right, you will experience a little lag in initial acceleration but will gain good top end, to make it even more better, change the rear sprocket too with one or two lesser teeth ones. . .

            Cheers!!!
            Yamaha Rx135 - 2005 - 2007 (stolen :mad:)
            Scooty Pep - 2008 - 2012 (sold)
            Honda Unicorn - 2012 - 2015 (crashed)
            Hero Honda Splendor+ 2015 - present (temporary ride)
            Bajaj Pulsar AS200 - 16th September 2015 - present ride

            10 years into riding :D
            Live2Race. . .

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            • #7
              Re: Problem with my old stunner! Help please!!

              Check tappets, they are the leading cause of high vibrations and low top end. Also you said your bike sounds more, I guess the mixture is running rich. I suggest you get the carb tuned and tappets adjusted, then see if it makes any difference.
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              • #8
                Re: Problem with my old stunner! Help please!!

                Originally posted by Cleaner View Post
                Check tappets, they are the leading cause of high vibrations and low top end. Also you said your bike sounds more, I guess the mixture is running rich. I suggest you get the carb tuned and tappets adjusted, then see if it makes any difference.
                Tappets !!
                These tappets have ****ed my mind!!
                What are these tappets..
                Help pls!!

                Let me keep it short and simple. . . These bikes, 125cc to 150cc, even if given around 150kph or so top end, we won't be able to enjoy it, a minimum of 1/4L motorcycle is ideal for you to ride in top speed. . . So stop worrying about top end and get the bike in shape first. . . The reason saying these bikes are not good for top end,
                Agreed but i dont want my bike screaming at the top of its voice to reach even the speeds of 80 kmph..jus imagine how my bike sounds at 90..i jus want that my bike can easily reach the speeds of 80kmph without much ado..and well as i told i have to take the 5th gear at the speed of 40..thats really bad..even at speeds of 70..it feels as if it has reached its end and anything later on is an extra that i m trying to get from it..

                Have you regularly checked oil levels? Have you ridden with less oil anytime in the past?
                Actually no..i have been quite careless..

                Can you tell me if this started after an attempted speed run or extra pushing?
                yea i guess so..before my bro used to ride.. i dont know how he rode the bike..but later on yea i did attempt the extra pushes cause to get the juice out of it..those runs at 90kmph can be termed as extra pushing cause the bike jus wasnt willing to go..!

                Is there a lot of smoke in the exhaust or is it the same? Colour of smoke?
                No smoke as such..

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                Also you said your bike sounds more, I guess the mixture is running rich. I suggest you get the carb tuned and tappets adjusted, then see if it makes any difference.
                Yea it can be due to mixture..that also explains the mileage problem..am i right or am i right?

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                Originally posted by Vykier View Post
                Changing sprocket from 14t to 15t yes will do what youve mentioned but I don't really know if it'll solve vibrations though... when you hit that RPM patch it will vibrate albeit a little later than before while accelerating if you use a 15t sprocket.

                Youve mentioned earlier that the bike does 90 only downhill on a flyover... don't really know if you'll appreciate the sprocket change... if the road is flat it might not even have enough torque to take the 15t sprocket all the way up... but if you've read user reviews about it and confirmed... I guess it'll be alright... Make sure you solve engine problem before changing sprocket.
                Hmm..yea..i guess so..i should delay this mod..cause already now the bike feels lazy enough while going uphill..dont wanna lose that "also"!

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                • #9
                  Re: Problem with my old stunner! Help please!!

                  Some Updates @Cleaner @Rakesh Rok @Vykier(sorry for late reply,utterly):

                  Had my bike serviced..
                  The guy:
                  1.Washed the bike,
                  2.Cleaned the carb,
                  3.Changed some bearings,
                  4.Got a tiny *yet having monstrous proposition* hole on the fuel tank sitting mightily just under seat fixed,
                  5.Got the engine oil changed (it had become really thick like some time more time & oil would have become powder,literally!!)
                  6.Front disc brakes were little jammed, got that fixed. etc

                  AND BOY WHAT DO I HAVE HERE!!

                  Reached 110 kmph going downhill on a flyover with full throttle & the bike felt as if it was raring to go further but I had to slow down cause of some traffic. And the way in which it moved from 85 to 110kmph was astounding & unbelievable..It moved very slowly between from 75 to 85 cause that was the uphill part..But going downhill, it blew me away..

                  Other thing which I think helped me reach this mark is cause I changed to 5th gear after using the full power of the 4th gear..previously i would shift to 5th at the speed of 40kmph..now i shifted at 60 kmph..!! Thats my opinion..point me if I am wrong on this..

                  On the mileage front, I havnt checked it yet..I feel too bored to check it apart from the point that I dont know how to do it..Some more help will be appreciated ( Just consider me a noob & stop laughing )

                  Also I have some more questions, can I fix a tachometer?
                  Have anyone done it?
                  If yes, whats the cost..?
                  Front wheelie at what rpms?
                  Thanks
                  Last edited by ani2607; 03-25-2014, 12:56 PM. Reason: Dont close it yet!

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