Re: APACHE RTR 180 ABS / Honda trigger 150

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Re: APACHE RTR 180 ABS / Honda trigger 150

If you want good mileage, healthy back, plus super smooth engine then go for Trigger, as far as the ABS is concerned you can go for CBS version in trigger though totally different then ABS but still braking is quite good.ASC of both the manufacuteres are quite same if honda's service centres are not good so is the case with Tvs also.

Re: APACHE RTR 180 ABS / Honda trigger 150

I used Apache 180 for three years and I would recommend it to anyone without giving a second thought...reliable, a thriller, excellent handling excellent braking (with ABS its getting better) and gives a mileage around 40 kmpl...

Now if you need a more relaxed, refined engine (honda treadmark), do not like to be in the racing mode all the time (more relaxed and less "engaged" sitting position) and a better service center (atleast better than TVS), go for the Trigger.

As I used both Apache 180 and a honda bike (cbr250), I can say though my CBR is much more powerful with more advanced technology and a great tourer, still I miss that adrenalin rush of my Apache180...so test ride both and decide which suits more to your style of biking...all the best !!!

Re: APACHE RTR 180 ABS / Honda trigger 150



What would be the expected mileage of Honda CB trigger in city.

My present bike is Pulsar 150 cc 2008 model. Initially I loved it but lot of mess with my bike. Like mileage tuning gone bad and cant able to get it done by any of the mechanics. Later engine oil mess up by ASC guys and went to the end of smoke coming out. Then restored few parts in the engine case but I lost my factory setting of my bike. I lost the handling , throttle response , suspension , mileage. Total mess up.

I wana be careful this time when I choose a bike.

Useful for long trip , No vibrations, good handling and to feel the ride, mileage... Not too sporty or racer just a passion may be during weekends.

Actually I used to maintain my bike well. every 2000km I change oil castrol power 1 and every 3000 km I go for service , every 6000km I change Fork oil , Disc brake oil, change my stay bushes. But my bike didn't respond well for that much of maintenance.

I wish to go for Apache RTR 180 ABS. But the following is the difference I see.

TVS - HONDA
less cost of spares - Spares are costlier
Vibration / soundy engine - Smooth and softer one
Nitrox shocks - Mono shocks
ABS - CBS
More dynamic and sporty design - Ok upto some extend
40 - 45 KMPL - May be the same or should give 50KMPL



Thanks to you all once again

Re: APACHE RTR 180 ABS / Honda trigger 150

Correct observations !!! The honda will give you mileage ~50 kmpl...and its almost ~10kmpl more than Apache 180. But in return you will get a much powerful engine in A180. The only constrain I can see here for A180 is your hight. So test ride it and see whether you are bit too tall for it or not. As you are stressing more on mileage, I will not recommend any higher cc engine, or else, if your can spend around 10-15k more, you will get the zone of P220 and Karizma. As you are not going for another pulsar, you can check the new karizma (not ZMR). Mileage will be in the lower side of 40 kmpls, maybe around 35-40 range, but it satisfies all your requirements in your list and you cant go wrong with this time proven machine.

Re: APACHE RTR 180 ABS / Honda trigger 150

CB Trigger - It has the proven Unicorn engine with the honda comfort and reliability

Re: APACHE RTR 180 ABS / Honda trigger 150

Apart from the mentioned bikes, I would suggest you to have a look at the new Hero Xtreme as well.

Re: APACHE RTR 180 ABS / Honda trigger 150


while I agree with most of ur points in the comparison between tvs and Honda, the cbs on honda is nowhere near the abs of tvs. Cbs- combined braking system, just engages both front and rear brakes simultaneously when one of them is applied, if I am not wrong. This is in no way a life saver like the abs. The cbs will marginally improve the effectiveness of braking but nothing more.

Re: APACHE RTR 180 ABS / Honda trigger 150

Hi guys , I'm literally thank you all for the prompt replies helping me to narrow down to find a perfect one.

Anyway this kind of post and replies are quiet common and I don't want to bore you all. Just quick question and please let me know from your experience

Mono shock and Nitrox shock - which one is far better for the comfort , riding and the smoothness and also the cost of it.

Is TVS ABS is worth? - bcz see the difference of price Honda CBS trigger 88,500 on road / TVS apache 180 ABS 94000 on road.

I'm sure I wont go for Karizma... How about the performance of Hero Ignitor 125 cc I think that one is also a new one.

Re: APACHE RTR 180 ABS / Honda trigger 150


If you are looking for more comfort then opt for traditional twin shock set up bike, which i think is best choice for our country roads as the roads are very rough, but if you want to go by the latest technology(although not that latest) then go for trigger, although i have heard some complaints about trigger monosuspnesion, ABS is totally different from CBS, as in ABS your braking distance reduces quite effectively plus more safety, in CBS it's just that your both brakes are applied simultaneously and less chance of skidding, at any given time go for bike which have ABS.

Re: APACHE RTR 180 ABS / Honda trigger 150


Between the rtr and trigger, the trigger would be more comfortable as rtr has a slightly forward inclined riding position compared to trigger which is more or less upright riding position.

And the abs of rtr is definitely worth the extra 6k over the cbs of trigger.

I have no idea about performance of the ignitor.

Re: APACHE RTR 180 ABS / Honda trigger 150

Don't go for ignitor.

Re: APACHE RTR 180 ABS / Honda trigger 150

if you've considered Apache 180 , why don't you go for Karizma ZMR 2014 (though it's about Rs. 20k more than apache) ....but it'll be great fun...

Re: APACHE RTR 180 ABS / Honda trigger 150

You seem to be the guy concerned about mileage else you would have never asked about a 125 cc bike.
And you are looking at cost difference, but not at what you are getting in that 5.5k Rs.
CBS trigger- 88.5K , ABS A180- 94k
While trigger only has 150 cc engine and low torque, A180 has 180cc engine with high torque and great pickup. CBS is not useful for people who use both front and read brakes aka people who know driving while ABS is totally a different concept and increase braking efficiency a lot. If you like little bit of revving then A180 gives you the feel but Trigger, naah! it's boring. If you seriously test drive both for 2 kms on an open road then for sure you are going to choose A180. And my friend is getting 45kmpl with Trigger, whereas other friend is getting 40 kmpl with Apache. I own a A160 and I get 44 kmpl and trust me A160 itself is a lot better vehicle than Trigger.
As for service center - My friend has issues with gear system in his Trigger, till now ASC couldn't rectify it. Whereas I also faced couple of issues in my Apache and ASC has taken care of it very well. Service Center totally depends upon the knowledge of the mechanic, not if its Honda or TVS.

Dont think much, Buy the APACHE! Once you start enjoying the ride, you wont care about mileage much.