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  • Uneven wear of pads and disk. YZF -R15

    Guys,
    I have a R15 V2 which is done 20k. I never felt the rear brake to be sharp but I didn't care because I dont use rear brakes much.
    At 19k I removed the pads to see if they're worn out, and i saw one almost worn out pad(piston pushes this pad) and the other one looking like new.
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    Also the disc lost a lot of metal on the right side. I do not rest my foot on brake pedal.

    The wheel rorates freely and theres no drag. Now its time to replace the pads but I fear even with new pads, the same wear pattern can happen. Also the issue may cause loosing more metal from disk and make it thin, below the safety limit.

    Any idea why it happens and is it possible to fit a bybre caliper from NS? The NS caliper only costs 1300, while new pads for current nissin costs 1100.
    Thanks

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    Re: Uneven wear of pads and disk. YZF -R15

    Uneven query approved.
    (Been There Done That) x 3.25

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      Re: Uneven wear of pads and disk. YZF -R15

      Originally posted by christo View Post
      Guys,I have a R15 V2 which is done 20k. I never felt the rear brake to be sharp but I didn't care because I dont use rear brakes much. At 19k I removed the pads to see if they're worn out, and i saw one almost worn out pad(piston pushes this pad) and the other one looking like new.
      Mate, I don't know why this happened. But you are not alone. My R15 has the same problem too. I rarley use the rear brake but it seems that the rear brake pad are eaten off. Even the disc plate has lot some metal. I'm afraid whether the disc plate too needs to be replaced on my bike.And you said 19k is up on your bike, How did you manage to pull it without replacing the brake pads? Does the R15 brake pad lasts that long? I guess mine needs replacement at 10k cause I hear some screeching noise when I apply the brakes.

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      • #4
        Re: Uneven wear of pads and disk. YZF -R15

        I had a similar issue with the front brakes on my apache a few years ago. After getting the bike serviced, my brakes felt terribly spongy and were getting unevenly worn. It took me almost a month to figure out the problem.

        I bled the brake system, changed the brake fluid but it didn't work. The service centre people told me that I needed to change the entire brake system (master cylinder, slave cylinder, brake lines the whole lot) and would cost up to 3000 rupees. But then I thought I'd try changing the brake pads (had spare brake pads lying around) and it worked! Upon inspection, I found that the service centre folks had put duplicate nissin pads, which were causing the trouble.

        So try changing the pads. Keep us posted

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        • #5
          Re: Uneven wear of pads and disk. YZF -R15

          Looks like the brake calipers aren't working properly. Only the left one is being pushed to the disc. Get this checked asap.

          Ride safe and have fun.
          Regards
          Nadeem

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          • #6
            Re: Uneven wear of pads and disk. YZF -R15

            Originally posted by christo View Post
            Guys,
            I have a R15 V2 which is done 20k. I never felt the rear brake to be sharp but I didn't care because I dont use rear brakes much.
            At 19k I removed the pads to see if they're worn out, and i saw one almost worn out pad(piston pushes this pad) and the other one looking like new.
            app
            there can be multiple situations causing this. start with the basic ones.

            wheel alignment. how often you check your chain slack ?
            warp/bent rotor ?
            real wheel bent (do you feel any wobble)

            i believe the rear brake has single piston hence for me it looks like that when you release the brake the inner pad is not moving away from the disc causing the same.
            when you press the pedal the piston pushes the brake liner over he disk on the other side. also the calliper moves freely over the rail which in the same pressure brings the inner pad also inside.

            "brake calipers must be free to move in and out. Contact points are usually the two shoulder bolts that hold the caliper and the two resting surfaces (top and bottom) where the caliper meets the caliper support bracket. Everything needs to be free from any wear, rust, or dirt. After smoothing out any blemishes and cleaning apply brake grease to these points (bolts and resting points). Remove any excess grease so it doesn't get on the pads."

            for reference please check below. ask the SVC guys to completely open the calliper clean it and also regrease all the upper joints on which the whole calliper assembly moves. and add new brake pads. that should do it.

            Timely Topics -- Diagnosing Uneven Brake Pad Wear
            Last edited by theironhorse99; 08-07-2015, 07:40 AM.
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              Re: Uneven wear of pads and disk. YZF -R15

              Originally posted by Andy_kristine View Post
              Mate, I don't know why this happened. long? I guess mine needs replacement at 10k cause I hear some screeching noise when I apply the brakes.
              R15 pads shouldn't last this long in a properly working system. In my case, the rear brake felt spongy,dead from the beginning. So that helped the pads to last this much. Hope your problem will also get rectified by changing the pads.

              Originally posted by ags1773 View Post
              I had a similar issue with the front

              I bled the brake system, centre folks had put duplicate nissin pads, which were causing the trouble.

              So try changing the pads. Keep us posted
              The pads are genuine since they came from the factory. I too have bled the brake and to my suprise the fluid inside reservoir looked thick and dark yellow. 1 year old fluid shouldnt look like that I guess. Anyway, ill replace the pads and chek. Thanks

              Originally posted by nadz11.ns View Post
              Looks like the brake calipers aren't working properly. Only the left one is being pushed to the disc. Get this checked asap.
              It seems. Will get it checked soon.

              Originally posted by theironhorse99 View Post
              there can be multiple situations causing this. start with the basic ones.



              Timely Topics -- Diagnosing Uneven Brake Pad Wear
              To start, the bike is just 12 months old and I adjust chain slack and tyre myself. The alignment is perfect and the rim has no issues. It doesn't wobble and the tyre wear is equal on both sides.
              I've bled the brakes and thoroughly inspected the caliper which was free of dirt, rust etc. The piston is not stuck, it moves freely, it was my main concern.
              Since there's nothing to do more, ill replace the pads and tell the svc guys to grease everything as you said.

              Ill post the result here.
              Thanks.



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              • #8
                Re: Uneven wear of pads and disk. YZF -R15

                Originally posted by christo View Post
                The piston is not stuck, it moves freely, it was my main concern.
                Since there's nothing to do more, ill replace the pads and tell the svc guys to grease everything as you said.

                Ill post the result here.
                Thanks.



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                i did not mean the piston but the whole calliper itself. when the piston presses one side of pad to the disk the whol calliper assembly also moves out putting equal force on inside pad as well hence you get proper braking and both side pads wear out equally. i assume the calliber assembly is not moving freely over those mounts hence improper wear and less brake force. ask them to open and regrease outer mounts and then fit calliper again.

                make sure no grease touches the pad or the disc. it can account for total brake failure due to friction loss.
                "A good long ride can clear your mind, restore your faith, and use up a lot of fuel."

                RE Bullet 1977 - Current
                RX-100 1995 - Current
                CBZ Classic 2003 - Current
                Activa 2004 - Current
                CBR 250R 2012 - Current
                Ninja 650 2013 - Current.

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                • #9
                  Re: Uneven wear of pads and disk. YZF -R15

                  Can someone suggest me a good mechanic who can take a look at Nissin rear disk brake and help me solve the Problem of drag?
                  Ever since the Service Center guy replaced the rear disc brake pad, the rear wheel feels jammed up. the bike is revving harder and top Speed has reduced.
                  i dont know what to do and the Service Center guy is completely stupid to even acknowledge that there is a Problem

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