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  • Handle bar looks slightly bend towards right

    Hi,

    My motorcycle handle bar seems to be slightly bent towards right. I can notice this while riding. What could be the reason for this ?

    Outside mechanic feel it could be like a fork bend and they say fork needs to be bent back and fork oil changed ? Is this really necessary ?

    How can we diagnose what is bent when it comes to handle ?

    Thanks !

    Note: This is a general problem hence I am not posting in any type of bike thread. More over Honda Shine thread seems to be completely dead and not as active other threads.

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    Re: Handle bar looks slightly bend towards right

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      Re: Handle bar looks slightly bend towards right

      Get it done from well experienced mechanic

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        Re: Handle bar looks slightly bend towards right

        brother karteek , it would be really helpful to see some pics of what kind of bend you mean . Also is the handle or any part wobble or make unusual sound or any problems while riding ? Fork oil is leaking ? Forks function normally ? Any accidents or minor falls of the motorcycle ?
        do you mean that just the handle is not exactly perpendicular to the front wheel ?

        ignore mechanics for now , they never get any bends out . after spending all your money on wild goose chase , they'll console you with - saab , itna toh normal hai !
        Last edited by Pinaki; 01-31-2017, 04:34 AM.

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          Re: Handle bar looks slightly bend towards right

          Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
          brother karteek , it would be really helpful to see some pics of what kind of bend you mean . Also is the handle or any part wobble or make unusual sound or any problems while riding ? Fork oil is leaking ? Forks function normally ? Any accidents or minor falls of the motorcycle ?
          do you mean that just the handle is not exactly perpendicular to the front wheel ?

          ignore mechanics for now , they never get any bends out . after spending all you money on wild goose chase , they'll console you with - saab , itna toh normal hai !
          Thanks for the reply Pinaki-ji.

          1) While riding vehicle I can visually see handle bar slightly towards right means not perpendicular to front wheel.

          2) When I was riding on road (around 40 KMPH) suddenly a kid came across from no where on road so I applied brakes all of a sudden and could not handle the weight of the bike at that moment hence had to leave it to fall on ground toward left slowly. It can be considered as minor fall towards left.

          3) No wobbling and no unusual sounds. No fork oil leak, in fact it's still factory setting.

          You were bang-on with your questions. Hope I answered all of them one by one. Please reply once I post few pics of the handle tomorrow. Thanks once again for your valuable input and time. Cheers.

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            Re: Handle bar looks slightly bend towards right

            Minor offset from exact perpendicular is usual with bikes , you'll feel it while riding but will get used to it in few days and forget about it , no other problems arising from it either . If you still want to correct it , try this . Secure bike on main-stand on stable flat ground . Then stand in front of the bike and hold the front wheel snugly with your legs . Slap or push firmly with palm of your hand on the handlebar ( near it's end ) that is opposite to the bend . You may need need a few tries to get it right , or a friend to help hold the front wheel . The thing is same as done with bicycles . Happens from same kind of thing too i.e minor falls . Because the handle assembly is not quite 100% fixed ( immovable ) relative to the T-Stem and front wheel assembly , sometimes with hard knocks , it may slip or shift a little like this . No big deal .
            Last edited by Pinaki; 01-31-2017, 04:50 AM.

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              Re: Handle bar looks slightly bend towards right

              Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
              brother karteek , it would be really helpful to see some pics of what kind of bend you mean
              Pinkai-ji, I am uploading few pics of my bike. Please have a look at them and provide your inputs.

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              On a side not I am hearing mild squeaking noises from my rear suspension units while riding on an un-even village roads which are quite sandy and dirty. What could be the reason ? Shall I change the bushings to new one ? Please advice. They are factory set. Shall I apply any spray lubricant ?

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              4) Planning to change rusted suspension washers. Can you advice the frequently used bolts and nuts for the bike ? I would like to replace all factory set old rusted bolts from my bike ?
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              Thanks very much for your time and support.

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                Re: Handle bar looks slightly bend towards right

                Handle bar tube itself doesn't seem bend . Slight right slip/tilt on the T-stem assembly . So you can try what I suggested i.e apply an opposing twist force while holding the front wheel fixed , I think that should correct the slip . Or did you try that already ?
                You can take off the rear shock absorbers , clean the bushes and mounts , re-grease them and fit back . Or go to service center and ask for a full swing-arm service . That would include checking , lubricating and fixing anything on the rear suspension that might squeak . And replace the rusted washers . Bolts just needs cleaning & a drop of oil in the threads . You cannot spray-lubricate the rear shock & swing-arm pivot points , they are well sealed by the rubber bushings . They need grease inside .
                Sorry for late reply , was busy doing some DIY furniture painting to spend the weekend
                Last edited by Pinaki; 02-06-2017, 12:58 AM.

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                  Re: Handle bar looks slightly bend towards right

                  Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
                  Handle bar tube itself doesn't seem bend . Slight right slip/tilt on the T-stem assembly . So you can try what I suggested i.e apply an opposing twist force while holding the front wheel fixed , I think that should correct the slip . Or did you try that already ?
                  You can take off the rear shock absorbers , clean the bushes and mounts , re-grease them and fit back . Or go to service center and ask for a full swing-arm service . That would include checking , lubricating and fixing anything on the rear suspension that might squeak . And replace the rusted washers . Bolts just needs cleaning & a drop of oil in the threads . You cannot spray-lubricate the rear shock & swing-arm pivot points , they are well sealed by the rubber bushings . They need grease inside .
                  Sorry for late reply , was busy doing some DIY furniture painting to spend the weekend
                  a) I have not tried the forced correction procedure. Can we disassemble the whole front handle part and integrate them back ? Will that resolve the issue completely ? Does this look like a "Fork Bend" issue to you ?

                  b) Does replacing only bushes suggestible instead of cleaning them ? (only if they are less costly. I have no idea how much they cost)

                  I am looking to get this sorted out by a local mechanic. I don't want to go to ASC as the vehicle is approx 9 years old and they really don't like and care for the older vehicles any more.

                  More over I didn't find any DIY tasks done by any XBHP-ian in this forum for rear shock absorbers. Could you please point to a link where some DIY cleaning is done for rear shocks ?

                  Thanks again Pinaki-ji for your time and suggestions. NO issues for the late reply, I can understand

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                    Re: Handle bar looks slightly bend towards right

                    No , only handlle-bar assembly slightly slip , nothing to do with forks . Full disassembly is possible but really not necessary in this case . I did full disassembly of the handle-bar & steering stem only once - to lubricate the steering stem bearings and change out the bearing balls only . If you have never done this on your bike in 9 years , you can go for it , since it is recommended to lube the steering head bearings every 10000 km of riding anyway .
                    The shock absorber bushes may be replaced if found worn , they don't wear out that easy . Taking out the rear shocks and service is quite small job . But swing-arm service is quite laborious . I doubt if single handed DIY is possible for it . If there is squeaking from rear suspension , it may be from shock-absorber or swing-arm - you can never know . In 9 years both of them needs service .

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                      Re: Handle bar looks slightly bend towards right

                      Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
                      No , only handlle-bar assembly slightly slip , nothing to do with forks . Full disassembly is possible but really not necessary in this case . I did full disassembly of the handle-bar & steering stem only once - to lubricate the steering stem bearings and change out the bearing balls only . If you have never done this on your bike in 9 years , you can go for it , since it is recommended to lube the steering head bearings every 10000 km of riding anyway .
                      The shock absorber bushes may be replaced if found worn , they don't wear out that easy . Taking out the rear shocks and service is quite small job . But swing-arm service is quite laborious . I doubt if single handed DIY is possible for it . If there is squeaking from rear suspension , it may be from shock-absorber or swing-arm - you can never know . In 9 years both of them needs service .
                      I sincerely thank you for your continuous support on this issue. I shall get these checked accordingly.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Handle bar looks slightly bend towards right

                        Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
                        No , only handlle-bar assembly slightly slip , nothing to do with forks . Full disassembly is possible but really not necessary in this case . I did full disassembly of the handle-bar & steering stem only once - to lubricate the steering stem bearings and change out the bearing balls only . If you have never done this on your bike in 9 years , you can go for it , since it is recommended to lube the steering head bearings every 10000 km of riding anyway .
                        The shock absorber bushes may be replaced if found worn , they don't wear out that easy . Taking out the rear shocks and service is quite small job . But swing-arm service is quite laborious . I doubt if single handed DIY is possible for it . If there is squeaking from rear suspension , it may be from shock-absorber or swing-arm - you can never know . In 9 years both of them needs service .
                        Got the handle bar serviced completely by local mechanic. Cone set is changed now. Also there was a slight bend in forks (at least as per fork bending mechanic) so got that done. Now handle is free and 5 % misaligned. Need to run few more km's and observe.

                        In the process of disassembly mechanic removed all the front parts one by one and fixed all including all the cables of handle bar. I noticed one thing after that bike stops all of a sudden for no reason while slowly turning or decelerating. Is that a throttle cable problem ? Did he not fix it properly ? Please guide. Thanks.

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                          Re: Handle bar looks slightly bend towards right

                          Can't be sure from here , but very possible that throttle cable is not routed correctly . Check by comparing with another bike of same model . But if the throttle-cable is being stretched wouldn't the engine rpm increase ? So check if both ends i.e inside the throttle grip & inside the carburettor slide it's connected properly . Both is very easy to open and check . Lubricate the throttle grip for smooth operation , I did that just few minutes back on my bike also .
                          Last edited by Pinaki; 02-19-2017, 03:15 PM.

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