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  • What to do with my Unicorn

    Hi all, I am a newbie here and this is my first post. I have a 2007 December model Honda Unicorn. Last week,I met with a minor accident,i.e., I hit the back side of a lorry. So,the front head light and the speedometer got damaged..I am thinking of replacing the headlight and meter.So i bought the shield and visor of the headlamp... I am thinking of fixing Apache RTR digital speedometer. What do you think about this?

    My second doubt is with Engine filters. One of my friends asked me to install some sort of engine filters.He said that it will cost around Rs.800 to 1700/- .He said that installing such filters will increase the power.What type of filter is that and what is its use.Will it decrease my mileage.?

    1)Do you suggest fitting Apache's digital speedometer?
    2)Do you suggest fitting an engine filter? What type of filter do you suggest and its cost?
    http://special-one.co.cc

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    Query Approved.
    :)

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    • #3
      I dont think there's a Engine Filter .your friend might be talking about an Air filter from K&N , with putting it and upjetting you can get a little power increase

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      • #4
        and, most definitely the Apache RTR's digital console cannot get input signals on the Unicorn.

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        • #5
          Yeah.. atleast your speedo will not work!
          Your biking tells a lot about the person you are!

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          • #6
            there are ways to make it work i too thought of the same but got fedup with the info wat i have collected

            first the wiring kit need to be changed

            second the speedo wire need to be a 18" wheel spec calibrated

            than the batt to should support the meter & elec available...

            pls check the same with any body who this well (regarding digital speedo in place of analog speedo) logically speaking there should not be any change required for elec wiring other than the speedo 18" wire.........

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            • #7
              technically speaking its possible,logically speking a lot of jugad needs to be done.I suggest go for the stock meter.
              As for the filter u can try kn,though i felt my bike performs well in stock filter
              Socha Toh Locha.

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              • #8
                All those who think there will be a power bump after plonking in K&N, please let me know by how much you guyz would be doing a great help for me and others if you post the info across
                "Engine tuning is not an exact science, but with some practice and patience you'll get comfortable with your skill and be able tune for any conditions mother nature throws at you"


                Still the Boss -- RX 135

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                • #9
                  @ dream horse - Recieved your PM. Here is the reply.

                  The speedo on the unicorn is analog one - it uses a steel wire connected to a mechanical device (the speedometer) to display the speed. This steel wire rotates along with the wheel and this rotation is transmitted up to the speedo which displays speed by moving the needle accordingly. So as you see this is a totally mechanical device.

                  Now, in case of an electrical speedo as in case of the RTR, there are two seperate devices. The wheel sensor detects wheel rotation and generates an electrical signal. This signal is fed to the speedo which displays the speed on the LCD.

                  If you want to convert the speedo on the unicorn, you will need to feed a digital signal to the RTR speedo. From where will you get this signal as the unicorn which uses an analog speedo and does not generate this signal? You will need the apache wheel sensor. Now that wheel sensor will not fit on the unicorn and even if it fits, will be calbrated for 17'' wheels and not 18'' as on your bike.

                  If you can solve this problem, then, other things are simple.

                  In short, it is impossible unless you get the required knowledge.
                  Last edited by abhijeet080808; 04-21-2009, 10:35 PM.
                  Your biking tells a lot about the person you are!

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                  • #10
                    i will suggest you don't go for digital metr .. you'll have to do a lot of mess and then too it will give you problems more often .. you better go for hunk's analog meter .. it looks gud .. and for the filter .. you can go for K&N R-1060 .. and along with it .. change Main jet to 20 digits higher to increase your bike's performance. If you alone fit the filter without upjetting (changing main jet) .. you'll loose some performance but gain milege .

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post
                      @ dream horse - Recieved your PM. Here is the reply.

                      The speedo on the unicorn is analog one - it uses a steel wire connected to a mechanical device (the speedometer) to display the speed. This steel wire rotates along with the wheel and this rotation is transmitted up to the speedo which displays speed by moving the needle accordingly. So as you see this is a totally mechanical device.

                      Now, in case of an electrical speedo as in case of the RTR, there are two seperate devices. The wheel sensor detects wheel rotation and generates an electrical signal. This signal is fed to the speedo which displays the speed on the LCD.

                      If you want to convert the speedo on the unicorn, you will need to feed a digital signal to the RTR speedo. From where will you get this signal as the unicorn which uses an analog speedo and does not generate this signal? You will need the apache wheel sensor. Now that wheel sensor will not fit on the unicorn and even if it fits, will be calbrated for 17'' wheels and not 18'' as on your bike.

                      If you can solve this problem, then, other things are simple.

                      In short, it is impossible unless you get the required knowledge.
                      i can fetch a 18" digital speedo cable to transfer digital output

                      source: Suzuki GS150R which as same set up as uni 18" wheels but the only thing need to be seen is that rtr speedo should support the gs cable

                      leave aside the speedo prob which can be sorted out to my concern

                      the other thing like tacho, fuel gauge, ignition, tell tale lights, etc

                      will the present sensor & wiring system (both fuel & tacho) will support the digital speedo......... thats my concern....... which worries me a lot

                      i searched for many data regarding wiring sys for analog & digital.

                      but the fig are present only for the construction of digi speedo..............

                      i can test but rather than burning my finger any putting bike in a catastrophic situation i can search for the details until i can test with guts & without any big disasters.................

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by dream horse View Post
                        i can fetch a 18" digital speedo cable to transfer digital output

                        source: Suzuki GS150R which as same set up as uni 18" wheels but the only thing need to be seen is that rtr speedo should support the gs cable

                        leave aside the speedo prob which can be sorted out to my concern

                        the other thing like tacho, fuel gauge, ignition, tell tale lights, etc

                        will the present sensor & wiring system (both fuel & tacho) will support the digital speedo......... thats my concern....... which worries me a lot

                        i searched for many data regarding wiring sys for analog & digital.

                        but the fig are present only for the construction of digi speedo..............

                        i can test but rather than burning my finger any putting bike in a catastrophic situation i can search for the details until i can test with guts & without any big disasters.................
                        Can the GS150 wheel hub speed sensor be fitted on the Unicorn? The speedo cable is ok but the wheel hall sensor at the front wheel hub must be present to generate the signal. What will you do about that?

                        Tacho should be supported. Almost guaranteed. All ignition systems use similar signals. About the fuel sensor, maybe the resistance values of fuel sensor at the tank will differ for both bikes and so you will need to add extra resistance in series or parallel with the fuel sensor in the tank.
                        So, even that is do-able. Atleast you will get a partially functioning fuel gauge in case of resistance mismatch.
                        Your biking tells a lot about the person you are!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post
                          Can the GS150 wheel hub speed sensor be fitted on the Unicorn?
                          The GS150 doesn't seem to have one. I guess the speed is calculated from the front sprocket or the crank...

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                          • #14
                            Speedo

                            Originally posted by dream horse View Post
                            i can fetch a 18" digital speedo cable to transfer digital output

                            source: Suzuki gs150r which as same set up as uni 18" wheels but the only thing need to be seen is that rtr speedo should support the gs cable

                            leave aside the speedo prob which can be sorted out to my concern

                            the other thing like tacho, fuel gauge, ignition, tell tale lights, etc

                            will the present sensor & wiring system (both fuel & tacho) will support the digital speedo......... Thats my concern....... Which worries me a lot

                            i searched for many data regarding wiring sys for analog & digital.

                            But the fig are present only for the construction of digi speedo..............

                            I can test but rather than burning my finger any putting bike in a catastrophic situation i can search for the details until i can test with guts & without any big disasters.................
                            hi dude,in one of the electronics for you,there is a circuit for making a digital speedo and tacho meter.
                            The programs need to be burned into the microcontroller within the circuit provided.the overall cost will be,i think less than rs.1000/-
                            http://special-one.co.cc

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by HydBiker View Post
                              The GS150 doesn't seem to have one. I guess the speed is calculated from the front sprocket or the crank...
                              ya u r right i too searched the same in my friends bike.

                              i thought i can take the cable from GS150R & use it.........hmmmmmmmmmm.............

                              every thing gone in air like hair........................

                              fine i will find some way to sort it out..........

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