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  • #16
    Originally posted by omzworld View Post
    I have a Glady SS (Black) 10 months old and am more than happy with it. Off late I have had skidding problem at least 4 times. Around 3 months back i had an accident in a rainy night when i applied brakes suddenly at a signal crossing. As the bike was at around 40kmph and road slippery, it was a possibility. But after that 3 times the same thing has repeated without any bad fall. Because of this I am feeling quite unsure while applying brakes.
    When I went to Y Service center for regular servicing and complained about the same, he asked if bike fell because of that. On my affermative reply the guy told the chassis is bent and the forks are bent too and to repair all of them it will cost Rs 3200( Chassis only) and Rs 1500( for forks) plus some other charges and expected cost would be Rs 6000.
    I was baffled as i have never had any other problem and bike feels very secure otherwise.
    Can some one help?
    Does chassis gets bent easily?
    Does chassis bending results in skidding on braking?
    How to check if Fork is bent(What is fork?) Does it result in skidding?
    How much should these cost?

    Please Please Please help!!
    Long back even i had the bike's skidding problem. But it was due to incorrect tyre pressure. Petrol pump people push incorrect pressure if u r slightly ignorent. I suggest 25 psi in front and 35 in rear. with that it should never skidd.


    thanks
    prashant.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by novice_biker View Post
      Long back even i had the bike's skidding problem. But it was due to incorrect tyre pressure. Petrol pump people push incorrect pressure if u r slightly ignorent. I suggest 25 psi in front and 35 in rear. with that it should never skidd.


      thanks
      prashant.
      Sometimes the Pressure metres at pumps are faulty.Once i got air filled from a Pump that i dont frequent ,and though machine showed it filled 30 psi , immedietly i knew something was wrong . went to my usual trusted pump and found the pressure was 40 !

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      • #18
        ^^^Not sometimes... most of the times they can be faulty! In fact how do you know even if your trusted pump has a correctly calibarated gauge?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Raccoon View Post
          ^^^Not sometimes... most of the times they can be faulty! In fact how do you know even if your trusted pump has a correctly calibarated gauge?
          Its how u feel with the bike ,how it handles and i know my pump has a good gauge

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          • #20
            Hi OM Z World

            I would like to share my issue with Gladiator SS (Red-Black).
            I have Gladiator SS (Red-Black). I had same issue few days ago. I dash with other motorbike and bike front tyre got bent. I tried to fix it but not fully fixed it. I asked my Yamaha Service Guys, He checked it confirmed that the front fork got bent. He ask me to RS. 350 to fix (In Pune). I went city area in Pune and I fixed it Just Rs. 300

            Your Questions.

            Does chassis gets bent easily? --> May or May be not. The best way to check chassis bent or not. Bike front wheel and rear wheel should be in parallel mode. Mean if you view your running bike from Front side, rear wheel should be hide or should not be view. It should hide behind the front wheel.

            Does chassis bending results in skidding on braking? --> Very Much. To Test it, Just ride bike on 30 KMPH with open hand on the road, if you bike moving left or right then confirm that the front fork or/and chassis got bent.

            How to check if Fork is bent(What is fork?) Does it result in skidding? --> Same as above.

            How much should these cost? In Pune for front fork Rs. 300 . No Idea about Chassis.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by raman sriharsha View Post
              go fr all possible thnngs n if still u face d problem den go fr ABS...u will get dat at around 750rs...it can help u in btter braking
              It is only possible for bikes with disc brakes..!!

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              • #22
                Chassis won't get bent easily..

                Chassis wont get bent that easily. Did you have a very serious crash?

                I own a gladi too and that I've skid plenty of times till I learned the art of braking. Still I face a fall at times when I use the disc brake while steering sharp suddenly to avoid crashing on a stupid cyclist or a confused kid showing up on the road out of nowhere. And I skid a lot of times of muddy roads when I use the disc.

                Don't use the disc unless you're trying to brake on a straight line. Also don't ever slam on the rear brake to slow your speed, it'll surely lock. That's the biggest cause for skidding. Use both the brakes to slow down. Practice downshifting while braking.

                Remember, gladiator has a lean rear tyre and an overkill disc brake. But practice can help you realise the boon of it!

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                • #23
                  skidding is common if u slam on the brakes......try to apply the front brake gradually...and use less of rear brake.....check if the tyre is worn out.....
                  RIDE FAST, PLAY SAFE !!!

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                  • #24
                    Ok, all has been said before. I'd like to reiterate them.
                    1. 70% braking comes from front, 30% from rear.
                    2. Feather your rear brakes. Don't slam them. Else the wheels lock. Braking is not a binary on-off action. You squeeze them progressively. Squeeze fast in emergencies; squeeze slow in relaxed situations. I stop with just the front brakes, tapping the rear brakes for stability & to make the tail lamp glow ('cos front brake switch is not working ).
                    3. When braking, dont weigh down on the handblebars, through your arms. As such the motorcycle's weight transfers to the front when braking. Keep your arms relaxed. Weight down the footpegs & lean your upper body slightly backwards, to shift some of the weight from the front.

                    Fork bend:
                    Sarvajit has said it. I'm Not too sure here. Rev up & let go off the handlebars. Look ahead, & not the bike's console / front wheel.
                    In my case, I used to feel excessive strain on my left hand. Got a fork bend removing job done from the rotten Onion Motors. Cost me Rs 1.5k. Feels ok now. Now wondering if there was a fork bend at all.

                    BTW I maintain 37-38 psi at the rear, slightly more than factory. The manufacturer sells the illusion of better grip from a lower pressure - higher contact patch. But your tyres are wearing out faster. If you look at the sidewall, the max pressure the tyre can contain is way much more.

                    Originally posted by satishg View Post
                    front fork dive, rear swing arm bushes wear,rear wheel alignment all to be checked
                    ^ what is front fork dive . What about the coneset thingy? What is a coneset BTW
                    Originally posted by Puneet1 View Post
                    Sometimes the Pressure metres at pumps are faulty!
                    ^+1 99 times in 100
                    Originally posted by freakyarch View Post
                    Remember, gladiator has a lean rear tyre and an overkill disc brake. But practice can help you realise the boon of it!
                    ^ Lean rear tyre? handles like a dream . Overkill disc brake? I call it a boon.
                    Originally posted by raman sriharsha View Post
                    go fr all possible thnngs n if still u face d problem den go fr ABS...u will get dat at around 750rs...it can help u in btter braking
                    ^ Just a thought: Regarding ABS, A motorcycle, even one with antilock brakes, can't turn and brake hard at the same time.
                    Last edited by TomSawyer; 06-13-2009, 07:45 AM. Reason: tyres are wearing out faster, coneset
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                    • #25
                      it is NOT ADVISABLE to keep much tyre pressure.....this causes excessive back pain........learnt from experience
                      RIDE FAST, PLAY SAFE !!!

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                      • #26
                        Thanks a lot to every one!

                        Hi guys thanks a lot for all the Guru Mantra on skidding and forks n chassis n tyre pressure and the list goes on. Now my Glady is going smoothe as ever with no skiddding problem . Now on a hind sight I think I have understood the reason for all the skidding I have had - " Use of front break in places where friction is less ( dusty roads, rainy roads, gravels in roads) plus another time when ther was a turn and suddenly a cyclist came up and i applied front break suddenly. So Rule 1 - Whenever I see there is dust or road is slippery use less of front break.. more of rear ( slowly of course). In bends try to use rear break.. When on highways and good speed - front break.
                        Plus beware of Pacer Motors (Bangalore)- My bike didnt have any bent fork or chassis. I showed it to three other mechanics who told me the bike was not serviced properly, chain slack adjustment was not correct while that rascal at Pacer wanted to make 5500 bucks for no problem in the bike.

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