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    rx - 135 starting problem n parts

    hi friends ........ need ur help please for my rx -135 4s

    my bike does not start sometimes n if it does takes over 10 - 20 yes no exaggerating ....... even with a choke
    rarely sometimes it starts normally

    now somedays it was not starting at all
    so took it to a mech pulling it all the way ....... i tht of looking smart in front of him so told him to clean the spark plug n the carb
    he was smiling
    he first checked some things like whether petrol pipe is properly connected or not without switchin off the knob n hence some petrol lost
    n then to my utter suprise
    what he did was took a hollow plastic pipe ......... put it in a place in the carb.... i dont knw what tht place is ...... it was kinda open ,,,, n the pipe fit in it ......... n blew some air from his mouth for 1- 2 sec
    then in one kick the bike started
    i tht wtf ...... what did he do ..... i kept on asking him but he did not explain
    he said kabhi start nahi hoga toh aisa kar dena
    so guys could you please technically explain wtf did he do

    also i am looking for a new spark plug and a chain n chain sprocket and clutch plates.........
    heard there are fibre clutch plates which are very nice n long lasting
    please throw some light on it as well
    so what company should i go for
    i was thinking for plugs ....... NGK IRIDIUM.....

    also i was thinking of fitting a foam filter on my bike ... u can suggest ur choices also ........ but some people told me u have to change the jets once u fit the filter but the agony is i am complete noob is this matter ......... how to change the jets ........ and what should be the settings
    can i do this mod myself

    please help friends ......
    sry for long post n thanks for ur time
    thanks in advance
    Last edited by Aryan; 05-09-2009, 11:43 PM.
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    Query Approved.

    @Maniac: Please try and limit the emoticon usage.
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    • #3
      yeah aryan i will keep it in mind in the future

      @ all
      no idea guys
      please help me out
      Hope is a good thing ,
      may be the best of things and
      no good thing ever dies .

      Get busy living or get busy dying .

      - The Shawshank Redemption .

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      • #4
        still no reply
        no two stroker here
        Hope is a good thing ,
        may be the best of things and
        no good thing ever dies .

        Get busy living or get busy dying .

        - The Shawshank Redemption .

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        • #5
          possibly air lock?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by ShaolinRider View Post
            possibly air lock?
            now what does that mean
            n ur asking or telling
            Hope is a good thing ,
            may be the best of things and
            no good thing ever dies .

            Get busy living or get busy dying .

            - The Shawshank Redemption .

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            • #7
              no reply still
              Hope is a good thing ,
              may be the best of things and
              no good thing ever dies .

              Get busy living or get busy dying .

              - The Shawshank Redemption .

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              • #8
                Originally posted by outworldly maniac View Post
                so guys could you please technically explain wtf did he do
                Possible pilots circuit blocked,try get your emulsion tube checked.

                Originally posted by outwordly maniac View Post
                heard there are fibre clutch plates which are very nice n long lastin
                so what company should i go for.
                Where did you hear that !! from my thread, you only need these plates when you are putting out more power, your clutch tends to slip when you are at high speeds/rpm's, i am using stock clutch plates on my bike
                till date , stick to stock, the stock plates costs you 50rs per plate.

                Originally posted by outwordly maniac View Post
                i was thinking for plugs , NGK IRIDIUM.
                Ngk iridium is needs spot on jetting little here and there your 600 rs plug goes down the drain, frankly speaking iridiums don't gel well with two strokes, stick to stock pug NGK BPR7HS, don't bang head too much.

                Originally posted by outwordly maniac View Post
                also i was thinking of fitting a foam filter on my bike u can suggest ur choices
                Uni filter from RD dreams, there is no displacement for it.

                Originally posted by outwordly maniac View Post
                Also but some people told me u have to change the jets once u fit the filter
                Yes you have too, reason is you have match the air fuel ratio, if you don't do it direct seizure.

                Originally posted by outwordly manaic View Post
                but the agony is i am complete noob is this matter.
                I was the same as you one year back, i have learnt it a hard way, don't look back start of with a basic tool kit and keep a digicam ready, if you have any queries click pics and post them, we are here to help you out, the reason i ddn't replie to your pm is these gyan cannot be shared over pm's its something you have to learn your self, join rddreams and meet some mumbai members in one of the meets thats it you will be spoilt to te depth

                Originally posted by outwordly maniac View Post
                how to change the jets, and what should be the settings can i do this mod myself
                Yes you can do it,all you need is is a star screw driver and a 6/7 spanner for removing the main jet, if you have a fear that your are going to screw up buy doing it yourself i say that's the only way to learn, this is how i have learnt things.

                For more help catch hold hold of atul_astro on the forum he stays in mumbai itself, all the best.
                "Engine tuning is not an exact science, but with some practice and patience you'll get comfortable with your skill and be able tune for any conditions mother nature throws at you"


                Still the Boss -- RX 135

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by psycho 98 View Post



                  Ngk iridium is needs spot on jetting little here and there your 600 rs plug goes down the drain, frankly speaking iridiums don't gel well with two strokes, stick to stock pug NGK BPR7HS, don't bang head too much.
                  Don't use BPR7HS if BP7HS/BP8HS is the original recommendation!! Or at least check the difference made by using both.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by psycho 98 View Post
                    Possible pilots circuit blocked,try get your emulsion tube checked.
                    now what does that mean ....... sure the fool mech in my area dont understand these

                    Originally posted by psycho 98 View Post
                    Where did you hear that !! from my thread, you only need these plates when you are putting out more power, your clutch tends to slip when you are at high speeds/rpm's, i am using stock clutch plates on my bike
                    till date , stick to stock, the stock plates costs you 50rs per plate.
                    read it somewhere on the net ,,,, dont remember
                    ya i will stick to the stock ones
                    do u know which other good co i can go for?

                    Originally posted by psycho 98 View Post
                    Ngk iridium is needs spot on jetting little here and there your 600 rs plug goes down the drain, frankly speaking iridiums don't gel well with two strokes, stick to stock pug NGK BPR7HS, don't bang head too much.
                    ya iridium's outta my list now!!

                    Originally posted by psycho 98 View Post
                    Uni filter from RD dreams, there is no displacement for it.
                    ]
                    RD dreams is a site i guess
                    i heard installing the filter also needs jet changing!!!
                    between what difference did u note after doing so?

                    Originally posted by psycho 98 View Post
                    I was the same as you one year back, i have learnt it a hard way, don't look back start of with a basic tool kit and keep a digicam ready, if you have any queries click pics and post them, we are here to help you out, the reason i ddn't replie to your pm is these gyan cannot be shared over pm's its something you have to learn your self, join rddreams and meet some mumbai members in one of the meets thats it you will be spoilt to te depth
                    i prefer being spoilt....... do they entertain noobs over there


                    Originally posted by psycho 98 View Post
                    Yes you can do it,all you need is is a star screw driver and a 6/7 spanner for removing the main jet, if you have a fear that your are going to screw up buy doing it yourself i say that's the only way to learn, this is how i have learnt things.

                    For more help catch hold hold of atul_astro on the forum he stays in mumbai itself, all the best.
                    thank u i will try to things myself
                    thanks a lot for helping

                    i have one query for u though
                    do u support use of RDD CDI ?
                    ther is a serious debate around that its useful or not........
                    some say its a waste of money ..... some say it saves fuel , makes the eng rev , etc etc
                    how come some notice the diff n some dont??
                    Hope is a good thing ,
                    may be the best of things and
                    no good thing ever dies .

                    Get busy living or get busy dying .

                    - The Shawshank Redemption .

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Raccoon View Post
                      Don't use BPR7HS if BP7HS/BP8HS is the original recommendation!! Or at least check the difference made by using both.
                      ru sure sir cause mr. psycho 98 own an rx 135 and he is using it
                      dont sure successfully or not
                      Hope is a good thing ,
                      may be the best of things and
                      no good thing ever dies .

                      Get busy living or get busy dying .

                      - The Shawshank Redemption .

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by outworldly maniac View Post
                        ru sure sir cause mr. psycho 98 own an rx 135 and he is using it
                        dont sure successfully or not
                        Well to be clear if your bike is stock stick to stock BPR7HS, if your is mildly ported stick to W5BC, if your bike is undergone a major porting job where the engine temps are high and the motor revs to 9k rpm and above in all gears use autolite, ie:its not available in india you need to import it from US.

                        Well racoon is into lot R&D nowadays and its better i don't speak about it.

                        I am currently using autolite since my bike is undergone a major transplent.

                        The rdd guyz are bit harsh on noobs but you will get adjusted to them don't worry.

                        Go to yamaha dealer and get OE clutch plates there is no better clutch plates in the market

                        I would ratehr suggest you this way, join RDD and meet some mumbai boyz and ask tehre reviews about the cdi and then decide yourself, you see everyone has his own point of view so don't bother yourself too much.
                        "Engine tuning is not an exact science, but with some practice and patience you'll get comfortable with your skill and be able tune for any conditions mother nature throws at you"


                        Still the Boss -- RX 135

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by outworldly maniac View Post
                          ru sure sir cause mr. psycho 98 own an rx 135 and he is using it
                          dont sure successfully or not
                          Damn sure... but about what I observed in my bike (Shogun). Have mentioned this elsewhere, so wont elaborate again. I dont know what plug Yam recommends for RX 135. Please check in your manual if your bike uses a non-resistor plug. If yes, do NOT use BPR7HS or BPR7HGP. Or if you do, compare the results with both (equivalent non-resistor). Don't belive the theory that NGK/MICO dish out... don't belive anyone (including pesky raccoons ), just check for yourself!

                          Replied to your post in my profile. Hope you saw it.
                          Last edited by Raccoon; 05-12-2009, 03:57 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Hi my friend.I was reading ur issue about ur bike (yamaha 135).And you know i have the same Yamaha 135 (model 1996).I was facing the same issue as u.Most probably the problem with the Needle inside the carborator which either stops the petrol to execute or leaks out.Just get it exchange from a good Mechanic.If your bike is also getting "over" when you start so you can go for that needle exchanged.

                            Something more you can taken care of

                            * Is your bike's kick has a pressure properly ?
                            * Are you getting noise from crank shaft (if yes then it has to replaced as well)
                            * get the current checked without put in the PLUG (please consult mechanic for this)
                            Jo Bole so nihal, Sat sri Akal..!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by sukhvinder singh View Post
                              Hi my friend.I was reading ur issue about ur bike (yamaha 135).And you know i have the same Yamaha 135 (model 1996).I was facing the same issue as u.Most probably the problem with the Needle inside the carborator which either stops the petrol to execute or leaks out.Just get it exchange from a good Mechanic.If your bike is also getting "over" when you start so you can go for that needle exchanged.

                              Something more you can taken care of

                              * Is your bike's kick has a pressure properly ?
                              * Are you getting noise from crank shaft (if yes then it has to replaced as well)
                              * get the current checked without put in the PLUG (please consult mechanic for this)
                              thanks for ur reply friend

                              1. how can i know whether the kick has a proper pressure
                              2. i dont know whether the noise is comin from the crank shaft or not
                              some mechanics say it is coming from the block piston,,,, because its not ported n sleeved properly
                              3. my electrical dont work at the moment
                              man what the heck,,,, would u believe there is no mechanic here who knows to sort the electricals out,,,,, have shown to 5 mechs till now

                              and what is the needle you are talking about in the carburettor???
                              please elaborate on that thing
                              thanks again
                              Hope is a good thing ,
                              may be the best of things and
                              no good thing ever dies .

                              Get busy living or get busy dying .

                              - The Shawshank Redemption .

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