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  • ?????TVS tyres???????

    Hi...I ride TVS Flame 125cc I like the bike a lot for its milege and style but I am facing problems with its tyres. Are TVS tyres not good????? I fell from my bike number of times as I lose the grip on the road when taking turns (usually in ghat sections and in the corners of the road due to the sand). What do you suggest?? what is the best option that I have.
    I am thinking of going for wheel alignment and putting wider tyres..... (back tyre) but don't know what tyres are good...and also I am not satisfied with my head light....want to have a better head light...planning of going for a additional head light like fog lamp (sorry I don't knw the name exactly).
    Will my milege go down if I change my tyres and put wider ones?

    Please provide your suggestions..
    Thanking you in advance.....
    Ram Suresh.
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    • #3
      @ramsuresh : Happy to see another Flame Rider in Xbhp....
      Me too own Flame and just few days before celebrated its Birthday and 10K Achievement.....

      TVS Tyres are Crap ....Not so ....But when compared to other Tyres ....I would say yes....
      TVS Tyres have a very strong Nylon part in thier Rubber - so as making them gripless in Turns and Wet Road Conditions...
      But i've faced this problem with even MRF Zapper and Dunlop Tyres.....
      Even RTR has the same tyres as that of Flames and i've seen many RTR's Zipping in the Race Tracks ....

      The best option would suggest you is to go for MRF Zapper Soft Compound Tyres - they are best in Road Grip but will not last longer......

      And Reg the Lamps.....Yes Flame's Headlights are a bit lower on the View Point....But whem compared to other bikes ---- i feel its Ok....
      You can Get Fog lamps fitted in the CrashGuard.....each cost 200......

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      • #4
        Thank you Thunder....for your suggestions..

        Nice to see another owner of TVS Flame 125cc.
        I don't know where the bike ends and I begin...If heaven doesn't allow bikes..I'll ride mine straight to hell.

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        • #5
          Hi

          Hi fellow riders...any more suggestions..............
          I don't know where the bike ends and I begin...If heaven doesn't allow bikes..I'll ride mine straight to hell.

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          • #6
            My experience with TVS Tyres was with all Apaches. RTR 180 was a bit better at leans, but the other 2 were average. This is the most diplomatic reply being truth too. Because in comparison to Pulsar Stock tyres (MRF), the RTR ones were a clear fade, despite MRF being old ones, and TVS being brand new..

            So, I can imagine how it must feel on Flame... In view of recent lockout in MRF Factory, there is a lack of supply of tyres... In my view, you can go for Dunlop tyres too.

            In any case, don't enlarge the size too much. The basic weight distribution, and ride height of a vehicle is at stake, when you do so. And yes, Mileage will be affected!

            More grip and be achieved by Softer tyres too, which wear quicker. It's recommended that your tyre has a suitable pattern for handling mud, wet conditions, etc..
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            • #7
              I am using tvs flame too.... D tvs tyres sucks big time and i changed d rear tire to michelin pilot sporty 100/90 x 18. D frnt tires are nt at all bad. Provides gud grip... And yes d stock headlight is poor. Evn i've changed that with 55watts philips blue vision(white light). And i've installed k&n filter, iridium plugs n splitfire cable. I use petronas sprinta 4T 4000 semi-synthetic engine oil. I have raised the rear end by using clamps.... And i shud memtion 1 thing...that flame might b marketted as a commuter bike bt it handles lyk a dream. D besh handling bike upto 150 cc... Its so much agile n predictible.... And prfrmance is mindblowing for a 125cc evn in stock cndition....which puts othr 150s in shame. Jst u need 2 change d tires.... Its a brilliant bike. Bt its engine is too rough and quality is too poor
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              • #8
                currently, out of all the indian tyres, MRF zappers are the best.

                MRF is also the most widely used tyres in india.

                for more info on tyres, check this thread-


                similarly there are seperate threads for bike lighting in "universal threads" section.
                Last edited by princesirohi; 07-06-2011, 02:17 AM.
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                • #9
                  I would never recommend TVS tyres for bikes more than 100cc (PURE commuter class).

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                  • #10
                    Tvs tyres are made to last long considering the mind set of average indian customer. My experience with tvs tyres are not so good. They dont offer best grip. I hope FLAME has 17 inch tyres.. So you have so many options in mrf with balanced price and grip ratio..

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Rahulbarik View Post
                      I am using tvs flame too.... D tvs tyres sucks big time and i changed d rear tire to michelin pilot sporty 100/90 x 18. D frnt tires are nt at all bad. Provides gud grip... And yes d stock headlight is poor. Evn i've changed that with 55watts philips blue vision(white light). And i've installed k&n filter, iridium plugs n splitfire cable. I use petronas sprinta 4T 4000 semi-synthetic engine oil. I have raised the rear end by using clamps.... And i shud memtion 1 thing...that flame might b marketted as a commuter bike bt it handles lyk a dream. D besh handling bike upto 150 cc... Its so much agile n predictible.... And prfrmance is mindblowing for a 125cc evn in stock cndition....which puts othr 150s in shame. Jst u need 2 change d tires.... Its a brilliant bike. Bt its engine is too rough and quality is too poor
                      Regarding headlight
                      it does not really matter on bulbs.
                      It matters on how good reflectors are
                      in case of 55 watts bulb,the reflectors will melt/turn black due to the heat produced
                      Hence in this case you need reflectors of higher watt ratings like 60 watts of cars

                      You can go for Ambassador MFR 7 inch round headlight and fit it in pulsar round headlight dome.
                      Hence you will need to remove your current fairing and put the housings clamps of TVS star/Samurai and fit the pulsar round headlight having ambassador reflectors having that 55 watts bulb

                      Also in case of 55 watts bulb,how much illumination do you get in case of 55 watts bulb.

                      I guess that you will be able to get good headlight beam only at high rpm above 3000 and you will be getting poor beam at low rpm by using a 55 watts bulb

                      I use Victor GLX and when I was using 35 watts and also 60 watts bulb I still felt that my bike's headlight beam was still very good as compared to all the bikes in India.GLX has good beam throw and you can have amazing illumination at night even with a 35 watts bulb.With a 60 watts bulb,my reflectors turned black hence I am using round headlight of Bullet classic 500 cc supporting 60/55 watts Bosch bulb all fitted under round Pulsar headlight dome.

                      Regarding tyres,I also has bad experience with TVS tyres especially in rainy season
                      I changed the rear tyre to Dunlop Unigrip 3.00 x 18" and front to 2.75 x 18" MRF tyre.
                      But for rear tyre,I feel that Dunloop Unigrip/Geo-cruiser is best option
                      Out of these tyres,Geo-Cruiser is little bit wider hence your mileage will decrease but it will provide greater stability on road.


                      And yes
                      Dont put Petronas sprinta oil in your bike.Later it will give problem with block piston.
                      My stock block-piston was gone when I used Petronas oil for 2 to 3 times
                      I personally recommend oils from Shell.It will give you best performance.I currently use Shell or Mak only.
                      Mak is OEM for TVS(All TVS oil are 10W30 from Mak Lubricants)

                      I also used the Iridium plugs from NGK for GLX but personally I felt that Bosch dual electrode spark plug are cheaper and gives best torque and performance than the NGK Iridium plugs.
                      Iridium plug costs 550 rupees whereas Bosch Double electrode plug costs 100 rupees

                      Also I feel that the sparkplug wires doesnt make much difference.But since they produce strong sparking,hence lot of heat is generated hence engine parts can get damaged.Hence it is not recommended to use these wires.I used MSD Ignition cables and in begining,It gave good performance but later on long drives,it started giving engine overheating problems

                      Also one trick I would like to tell instead of MSD/Spitfire Wires
                      Keep the OEM/Stock spark plug wire as it is.Just replace the spark plug cap with the Pulsar spark plug cap which is available from Bajaj Service centers
                      It has resistance of just 1000 ohms hence you get stronger sparks but also not that stronger that it could overheat the engine
                      These spitfire/MSD wires of 100 ohms hence more current flows through apark plug hence more sparks
                      But if the cap is just 1000 ohms, sparking is very good and not too much to heat up the engine too much
                      With the normal spark plug wire and the cap,the resistance is around 5000 ohms
                      Hence just replacing the spark plug cap,you are reducing resistance by 5 times only whereas with Spitfire/MSD, you are reducing resistance by 50 times

                      Bajaj Pulsar spark plug cap costs just 50 rupees.
                      Last edited by pankajshirke; 07-07-2011, 10:15 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Guess your bike has 17" Alloys.

                        For Driving through roads,get Michelin Pilot Sporty.TL,Remember no grips on offroad conditions,if you need tires for offroading,get CEAT Vertigo Sport,100/90-17,1700rs.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post
                          My experience with TVS Tyres was with all Apaches. RTR 180 was a bit better at leans, but the other 2 were average. This is the most diplomatic reply being truth too. Because in comparison to Pulsar Stock tyres (MRF), the RTR ones were a clear fade, despite MRF being old ones, and TVS being brand new..

                          So, I can imagine how it must feel on Flame... In view of recent lockout in MRF Factory, there is a lack of supply of tyres... In my view, you can go for Dunlop tyres too.

                          In any case, don't enlarge the size too much. The basic weight distribution, and ride height of a vehicle is at stake, when you do so. And yes, Mileage will be affected!

                          More grip and be achieved by Softer tyres too, which wear quicker. It's recommended that your tyre has a suitable pattern for handling mud, wet conditions, etc..
                          Actually Dunlop tyres are very good
                          I use Dunlop Unigrip 3.00 x 18" rear tyre for my TVS Victor GLX.
                          In 85000+ kms this is my fourth tyre
                          First TVS Tyre I changed when my bike ran just 15000 kms because on wet surface,it was skidding too much and it got wear and tear very fast
                          Next I went for MRF tyre 3.5 x 18" but it also didnt last long and till the bike ran 36000 kms,I went for Michelin .It offered best grip but unfortunately due to a very big and broad nail,it got a broad hole and multiple punctures and since then the rear tyre started getting punctured frequently and I had no alternative but to replace the rear tyre hence though my rear tyre was good but still around 52000 kms,I had to replace tyre and there I was looking for a good tyre which is resistant to punctures hence I was looking for Ceat and Dunlop
                          Out of that,I found Dunlop to be the best
                          Hence you will see that all my tyres lasted for around 20,000 kms whereas Dunlop unigrip is running without any problems even after 34000 kms
                          I using this dunlop unigrip from 52000 kms till current 86000+ kms which means this tyre had running around 34000 kms and still no punctures,no slipping/skidding yet on wet surfaces and very good grip
                          Actually in terms of grip,I have found that Michelin is good but Dunlop and Ceat are very good in terms of durability and in all aspects of safety.
                          I dont know much about Ceat because I have not used them but about Dunlop Unigrip and Geocruiser,I can say it is the best tyre for your bike
                          Last edited by pankajshirke; 07-07-2011, 10:07 PM.

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                          • #14
                            This is a very old thread. I suppose the thread starter must have taken something else...

                            As for the Apache RTR's Tyres, I can only say that heat them up well before doing anything that requires grip. You can heat tyres by using tyre warmers, accelerating and braking repeatedly like on a racetrack, etc.

                            After getting heated up, keep the action high or they will lose temperature. If you keep them heated up, they might grip much better than normal.

                            Zappers last some 20,000-25,000 depending on use (without stunts of course).
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post
                              This is a very old thread. I suppose the thread starter must have taken something else...
                              Dint notice the date when it has been posted

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