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Set the tappets on a cold engine, dont try the circus urself. head to the SC and get it done . Go there on a weekday when ther is no crowd and get it done in a relaxed manner.
If the tappets are tight , you could feel vibes and the engine does not build revs easily.
Check the RPM meter first , rev it to 9k on neutral and if it doesn go ,do other checks like ,
clogged filter,check plug gap.
Do this and lets think of something else later.
Oh yeah , check ur chain also, if its too tight or too lose , u aint gonna go fast
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i think its impossible that your bike does 140 at 8k rpm.....its the problem with your rpm meter...I RuLe Da HeAvEn, I RuLe Da heLL,I RuLe Da UnIvErSe, As HuMaNiTy FeLL
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Originally posted by satan69in View Posti think its impossible that your bike does 140 at 8k rpm.....its the problem with your rpm meter...pls stop this!!Originally posted by vid_powerstroke View Post+1 ....... i too think so .... is the problem still lingering ? or is it solved....
he never said that he has done 140 at 8K, he only said that he had done 140 earlier..
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@ all , if u cant help , dont bother posting.
Feels like ur just here to point at him prove him wrong , Make him apologise to u .
oly then will leave him.
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Originally posted by abhichotu.abhi View Postpls stop this!!
he never said that he has done 140 at 8K, he only said that he had done 140 earlier..
hes saying that his needle doesnt go beyond 8k...and he has touched 140 till now...meaning 140 kmph at 8k rpm right???I RuLe Da HeAvEn, I RuLe Da heLL,I RuLe Da UnIvErSe, As HuMaNiTy FeLL
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Originally posted by santoosh View Post@ all , if u cant help , dont bother posting.
Feels like ur just here to point at him prove him wrong , Make him apologise to u .
oly then will leave him.
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dude...we are telling him that his rpm meter might be wrong...if that doesnt constitue helping...then what is it..Last edited by satan69in; 10-13-2009, 09:35 PM.I RuLe Da HeAvEn, I RuLe Da heLL,I RuLe Da UnIvErSe, As HuMaNiTy FeLL
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A few reasons why an engine will fail to rev freely
1. Clogged air filter and running too rich
2. Tight tappets
3. Wrong cam timing (unlikely in this case)
4. Tight chain (if its not revving thru gears)
5. low cylinder compression
6. High viscosity in engine oil
So do the checks in stages.
Set tappets when the engine is warm always. Cold clearances will vary and thats why new engines end up in trouble like this. Always, tappets have to be mandatorily adjusted after the first 500-700kms.
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I have started to believe that it seems to be RPM meter after all.Originally posted by manohar_manu View PostDont know how your bike touches 140 at 8K RPM
Mine does 138 Kmph at 9k RPM. Even my friend's does the same. but it does go beyond 10K in other gears.
Not tried beyond 9k in 5th gear.
At 8K bike should do around 125-130.
I think its just a fault in RPM meter not going beyond 8K .
I had this problem twice (which got corrected itself in a day) . RPM meter was at 0K instead of 2k (Bike was running at that time)
I did rev my bike on Neutral, and it did cross 8K, but touched 9K max.. nothing beyond.. I'm getting more confused.Originally posted by ritwik23 View PostDoes ur bike hit rv limiter when u rev it in neutral?if its the prob with the tachometer then u'l come to knw by trying to do this.i have seen this type of problem on a 220 Fi where the culprit turned out to be the exhaust.check these two things and also ur sparkplugs.
Spark Plugs are NGK G-Power, not more than 1000Kms old.
I feel the bike is not revving freely, and then takes ages to reach 7.K and sycks at 8K. But my bike does 140 @ 8K RPM, looks like it's the meter after all!Originally posted by silver_falcon_46 View PostIf your bike is able to do 140 its a clear indication that its a problem with your speedo and not your engine. If the bike is limited to 8k it will not touch 140. Thats for sure.
The nut being tight does not mean your tappets are tight. Check the play of the tappets. I'm so sure its not your tappets. Its the speedo. The extra time required to go from 7.5K to 8k is the fault. It should be going above 9k. So it works perfectly till 7.5k and then works abnormally.
Got to go to SVC.. let's see what happens.Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View PostYou will need a ring spanner. Normal ones will slip. That nut holds the tappet adjuster thing in a particular position. It should be tight.
And, the Fastest Indian should do a lot more than 140kmph, at least on the speedo!
I will get it checked as well, as it is I need to replace my rear disc pads.Originally posted by abhichotu.abhi View Posteven if the rear brakes are not running tight , it must be problem of rear disc(not brake), it might have disformed, i am damn sure.....
As you mentioned the feelings are similar to a tight tappet settings. But it's also true that my bike does 140 at 8K.. so it looks like a RPM meter problem now.Originally posted by santoosh View PostSet the tappets on a cold engine, dont try the circus urself. head to the SC and get it done . Go there on a weekday when ther is no crowd and get it done in a relaxed manner.
If the tappets are tight , you could feel vibes and the engine does not build revs easily.
Check the RPM meter first , rev it to 9k on neutral and if it doesn go ,do other checks like ,
clogged filter,check plug gap.
Do this and lets think of something else later.
Oh yeah , check ur chain also, if its too tight or too lose , u aint gonna go fast
Santa
On Neutral it does go to 9K (slightly short of 9K) but nothing beyond. Air Filter is cleaned (checked visually), Spark Plugs are NGK G-Power.. Chain is also rightly set.
Originally posted by satan69in View Posti think its impossible that your bike does 140 at 8k rpm.....its the problem with your rpm meter...
Originally posted by abhichotu.abhi View Postpls stop this!!
he never said that he has done 140 at 8K, he only said that he had done 140 earlier..Originally posted by santoosh View Post@ all , if u cant help , dont bother posting.
Feels like ur just here to point at him prove him wrong , Make him apologise to u .
oly then will leave him.
SantaOriginally posted by satan69in View Posthes saying that his needle doesnt go beyond 8k...and he has touched 140 till now...meaning 140 kmph at 8k rpm right???Guys.. Peace! I think I did'nt clarify.. Yes my bike does 140 at 8K RPM.. it seems to be RPM meter problem after all. But again I feel the bike is not revving freely.Originally posted by satan69in View Postdude...we are telling him that his rpm meter might be wrong...if that doesnt constitue helping...then what is it..
Thanks Joel. I need to check on problem 2 and 5 if it's the case. I don't think the Oil is the problem here, Motul hasn't given me a problem so far. My tappets haven't been touched so far..Originally posted by Joel View PostA few reasons why an engine will fail to rev freely
1. Clogged air filter and running too rich
2. Tight tappets
3. Wrong cam timing (unlikely in this case)
4. Tight chain (if its not revving thru gears)
5. low cylinder compression
6. High viscosity in engine oil
So do the checks in stages.
Set tappets when the engine is warm always. Cold clearances will vary and thats why new engines end up in trouble like this. Always, tappets have to be mandatorily adjusted after the first 500-700kms.
Joel
@All, Thanks guys for your support. I'm heading to SVC on either Sunday or Monday (Diwali), and would be doing a run on Roller Bench, to check first. I will keep updated on it.Been There, Done That; Better!
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Will the bike revv freely if running excessively lean. So lean that the engine is gasping for fuel till 4k rpm.Originally posted by Joel View Post1. Clogged air filter and running too rich
I get little noise as if the tappets are loose when the engine is cold. After the engine heats the sound is gone. Anything to do with tappets?Originally posted by Joel View Post2. Tight tappets
Iam running very lean. The acceleration from idle to around 4.5k rpm is not gradual, progressive or linear. Shall i get the engine compression checked?Originally posted by Joel View Post5. low cylinder compression
My bike is 16000kms old and i havent got the tappets adjusted yet. Shall i get them done?Originally posted by Joel View PostAlways, tappets have to be mandatorily adjusted after the first 500-700kms.
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Joel, what should be the clearance for a hot engine? When cold, intake is 0.06mm, exhaust is 0.1mm. (if I have not forgotten!Originally posted by Joel View PostA few reasons why an engine will fail to rev freely
1. Clogged air filter and running too rich
2. Tight tappets
3. Wrong cam timing (unlikely in this case)
4. Tight chain (if its not revving thru gears)
5. low cylinder compression
6. High viscosity in engine oil
So do the checks in stages.
Set tappets when the engine is warm always. Cold clearances will vary and thats why new engines end up in trouble like this. Always, tappets have to be mandatorily adjusted after the first 500-700kms.
Joel
) What values do you suggest for a warm Pulsar engine?
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hey guyz
just curious about valve clearance
as i m also facing the problem of hard revving in fifth gear beyond 7.5k rpm , and if the valve clearance is the culprit and if i get the valve clearance adjusted properly ,will the low and mid range also improve or only the top range(i.e. 7.5 k rpm ) will show improvement ?
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