yup... no big difference.

it cost about 3500 bucks. don't know the specifics tho.

3500, naaa...
big difference.

if you say so...

u've done the mods on your bike... so you would know.

i'm talkin bout the modded 180 i rode compared to my 18OUGIII

didn't feel any significant difference.

Thank you.. Be a careful with the language there Pavan, you don't want to ruffle feathers of those trying to help you. Besides, that kind of attitude won't help you get anywhere... atleast not with your queries out here.

Do you understand carb-tuning? Things like up-jetting, free-flow intakes etc.? I'm sure that if you think K&N is a lame/poser mod, you haven't been getting out much to see what people are doing with it. Besides are you sure you didn't overlook the word 'some' in my statement "...to help bridge some of that gap" before you asked "K&N and upjetting for 1.5BHp?"

I am sorry if I offend you. But suggestions like get a new bike or install k&N for increase in power piss me off. People [ read: Experts] here have gone On and on about how useless freeflow intake and upjetting really is in terms of power increase.
If I had plans of getting another bike wouldn't I have already got one and posting in motorcycle ownership experiences?

K&n is only useful when you use it with a tuned free flow exhaust and proper jetting. i have p180 ug3 with k&n r1100 & krp exhaust and the bike's rpm rockets till 10500... the acceleration has increased atleast 20% and its far more quicker and easier to achieve top speed .
i suggest you should go for p200 piston kit + k&n + big bore carburetor with good throttle response (if not then go for jetting) + free flow exhaust + sprocketing, but first find a pro mechanic

Well my plans are 200 bore+piston, 32mm carb from the p220 and custom free flow intake and later even the exhaust but i kinda hate the loud sound that free flow exhausts make. They attract unnecessary attention. So exhaust is doubtful.

I suggest you go for a p200 block piston kit instead of boring the existing one..What about the crankshaft,does the 180 and 200 share the same ones?Free flows are damn noisy.A normal stock one would suffice.What about the oil cooler?

oil cooler nearly 1.2k, excluding banjo bolts and pipes.
existing silencer can be moded for more flow,

clearly a doable... the P200 bore+piston is a direct fit on the P180. Also get the P220 dtsi cams(they cost around 450 bucks). Its really worth it.
you need to do some desi-juggad to get the 32mm carb(costs around 2.5k) fixed on the stock P180 manifold. But IMHO, the 29mm is more than enough for the 200 as upjetting is always an option.
A lot more can be achieved with the stock airfilter rather than adding a K&N. If you want the bassy grunt, then get a K&N.

PS: R/RC1060 cannot be mounted onto the 32mm, the filter tends to bend.

Does this require the right crank case to be replaced with the 200s'??

is the oil cooler compulsory? Ok i'll keep away from the 32mm carb idea. will make do with upjetting for a while.
@undefineme3 you were the one who got a 220FI bore+piston kit on a P150 right?
So tell me how's it going now?
Hey now that the 220 carb has been launched do u think the 220 carb's bore piston kit would also be a direct fit?
How is the performance of your setup? What exactly is your current setup?
And what changes can i expect with 200's kit? Are those cams from 220 a direct fit in 180's head?
Try to ans all questions

Hey, its nice to see another home-made pulsar upgrade

I also have upgraded to the 220 bore+piston kit on my classic pulsar 150. Needless to say, it's awesome and I'm loving very moment of it. My contribution to this thread however, is not going to be technical but some observations following the mod. I'm writing this after seeing your response to some people who advised a new bike altogether.

I used to get really pissed at people who literally discouraged others from trying out this kind of heart transplant on their bikes. I've seen it on some threads, for eg. on the one about engine conversion be undefineme3. People give their opinion without any reasoning. That's careless and useless posting.

My observations following the engine conversion are as follows. If one is upgrading from something powerless like a 150 into a 220, the power increase is mind boggling and with additional tuning done you can smoke a stock 220 carb. That is the truth. You are going to tune the engine anyway since you are changing the bore/piston/carb/jet etc.

I don't know how much you'll enjoy the upgrade from 180>200. But if you have the cash, go for it. It's an obvious thing to do.
That's the beauty of pulsars. Some people complain that pulsars look the same.. but the components of a 150 and 220 are so similar you can easily do some effective and safe upgrades!

There is some sense in buying a new bike also. It's a very practical thing to do. The sooner you sell your current bike the better resale you'll get for it. And if you buy the latest pulsar 220 then if you decide to sell that bike in 1 or 2 years, then you'll lose only 10 - 15,000 rupees. And you can buy the latest bike at that time.

The reason I didn't do that was because I had sentimental value towards my bike of 6 years. After changing the engine though, it has become a whole different beast; a new bike in itself, and more endearing in a different way. If these sentiment don't apply to you, I recommend you consider buying a new motorcycle!

By the way, I got my upgrades done at the advise of undefineme3. I cannot stress enough on how good your mechanic needs to be. Good luck!!

yup, thats me. there is a thread in the hepl me section somewhere...
Mine too doesnot have an oil cooler and I too have the same doubt.. Still have no idea whether i need it or not..
My bike is running well, the bike responds exactly like a scrambler. the low end and mid range have virtually become one. before you can imagine you would be doing 80+ speeds. Mine is exactly not the FI replica. its got a 200s head to get have a carb.(getting FI technology by mechanics is simply not possible.. :P )
the 220s kit is not a direct fit. you can get the 220s kit, but it would still be the 200. the bore+piston for the 200 and 220 are the same. the only difference is the stroke length, giving the fastest indian a few more horses than its smaller sibbling. this means that you need to get the crank also altered.
as for the perfrmance, it goes head to head with the 220 dtsi... mine loses on the top end on straights but the stock cant get near me until i cross 100..... have seen speeds of upto 130kmph running side-by-side with the dtsi version of 220.
with the 200s setup you can expect the bike to be torquey... add some sprocketting and you can achieve some more on the top end.

the cams are a straight fit.
my setup has the folowing parts.
220 dtsi bore + sleeve of barell extended by 3mm
200 head
220 FI crank
220 gearbox
220 dtsi cams
32mm Ucal carb
stock air filter
220 dtsi manifold
R15 tyres
stock crank case
14/40 sprockets

please do invest on good brakes. I'm literally suffering on brakes.

Ah, Hey dude! hows your bike running??? its been a long time.. when you dropping in here??? never got to ride urs after the works... and you got it wrong here... why do you think your bike took more than ten days to get ready?? the 150 and the 220 is a different chemistry all together. the 220(the FI version) and the 200 are similar in all ways except that the 220 is a longer stroke which is the most complicated to achieve in a bike.

This is exactly why my response came out so.
@undefineme3: Dude do you kno how much the 200's bore+piston+220's cam cost?

@ undefineme3

Hey well I wont be able to ride the bike for a month or so... can't bend my knee you see i spoke to aweas, he said he'll hold on to the carb/shocks etc till i come back, sometime in jan/feb 2010. i'll be leaving for pune to recuperate.