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P200 Gearbox Issue
I have a '07 P200 bone stock, and i'm having a shitload of problems with it's gearbox, it's nearly run about 20K kms now, and only recently i had to change the clutch plates on it. The bike is not pulling like it used to in the mid-range beyond 4k and below 8k, added to this the gear almost never slots into place from first to second beyond 4k and the rest of the gears either slot occasionally or engage for a fraction and then slip horribly to the lower gears or just fall into a false neutral or at least thats what i hope they call it when a bike simply revs when i engage from fourth to fifth, and nothing happens between the crank and the wheel near the end of the power band 8-10k. At first i thought this had something to do with the clutches but changing them didn't quite seem to solve the problem, the sprockets seem to be fine and by the PBK guy have another 2k left in them, but still i doubt the problem to be internal. I'm pretty freaked out by this as i don't want to break the gears either. It's BTW running on Servo 20W50 4T mineral oil for quite nearly 1000kms, since it was changed along with the clutch plates and the shifter is upside down so the pattern is one up and the rest down, but i suspect that hardly would be the case for the issue with the gearbox, as it doesn't affect anything internally.
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I vaguely remember the gearbox being a issue with the previous Pulsars if i remember correctly previous iterations had false neutrals, can somebody point out why this was, i thought the gearbox issues were eliminated when these one down four up pattern was brought out.I'm too intelligent to the unintended, and too dumb for the obvious.Comment
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Your bike needs gear shaft change. Same case happened to me on my old Pulsar 150 and after changing the gear shaft hardly costed 150rs the problem was reduced by 60% but not totally gone as its a bajaj anyways.Originally posted by EL LOCO DIABLO View Post
BTW: I too shifted to the 1UP and 4 down pattern on my P180ug4 but i found that after shifting to those pattern my gear shifts have become harder. so, again i changed to stock 1-down,4-up pattern and gearshifts became smoother.
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Man, try changing the gear shifter rod, costs Rs.235 and it solved my problems and mine has clocked 25k kms till date!Originally posted by EL LOCO DIABLO View Post
Whenever there is a Rainbow in the sky, I know it's u mastering the art of Cornering. U will always be remembered brother, R.I.P Arun.
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^^ Is it the rod that connects the shifter with the gearbox? Thanks for the help abhichotu.abhi and dual disc 200, i'll attend to it at the earliest and post the resultsI'm too intelligent to the unintended, and too dumb for the obvious.Comment
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yes mate, it's the same thing!!!Originally posted by EL LOCO DIABLO View Post
Whenever there is a Rainbow in the sky, I know it's u mastering the art of Cornering. U will always be remembered brother, R.I.P Arun.
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BTW:Originally posted by EL LOCO DIABLO View Post
The oil SERVO is a multigrade oil,I think so..
If it is then it might have gotten friction boosters which will lead to a little clutch slippage, either switch to Petronas mineral 20W50 oil(I found it best for my bike) or Motul 20w50 mineral.
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The bike generally runs on Motul 5100T 15W50, i didn't have two cans to give them on the day of service, so i'm stuck with Servo for another 1500kms, BTW in Motul this clutch slippage is even more, so i had that base coveredI'm too intelligent to the unintended, and too dumb for the obvious.Comment
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No... No!!Originally posted by EL LOCO DIABLO View Post
What i meant was Servo has a multigrade oil which can be used for both Car's and Bike's, Therefore if you use or can switch to some other brand of oil it will be better next time.
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Make sure the clutch plates were installed properly. One of the times, the PBK guys messed up by installing one of the plates from another bike (I guess the 220) which caused some mis-shifts. Upon inspection the problem was identified and fixed immediately. My bike has done 33k and is one of the first iterations of the 200 and the gearbox has always been butter smooth(Bajaj standards).
I would suggest a re-look at the new clutch plates to make sure they are ok before you go ahead replacing the rod.sigpic
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AOriginally posted by abhichotu.abhi View PostNo... No!!
What i meant was Servo has a multigrade oil which can be used for both Car's and Bike's, Therefore if you use or can switch to some other brand of oil it will be better next time.
h! Ok, i didn't know that
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How different is the 220's plates from the 200's? Shouldn't be much no.? If not beefier for the 220Originally posted by silver_falcon_46 View PostI'm too intelligent to the unintended, and too dumb for the obvious.Comment
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Not quite sure about that although it does mess up the gearshift. I remember him saying it was thicker? Or I guess I don't remember. The point is, do get that checked.Originally posted by EL LOCO DIABLO View Post
EDIT: I guess this is a very well known fact that you should not be using engine oil which runs on cars. "20W50" does not explain this but I guess "JASO" and a few other grades explains if it is suitable to be used for wet clutch engines.Last edited by silver_falcon_46; 12-08-2009, 06:30 PM.sigpic
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@EL
Are you experiencing excessive vibrations when you revv your bike.
If so then get the balancer shaft adjusted by PBK saying him that bike is vibrating alot
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